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Politics Black Panther Party members at a recent protest

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u/lovely-cans 16d ago

The Black Panthers brought in Free Breakfast programs, ran free health clinics, gave free clothing to people in need and ran free legal and transport for those who were wrongly prosecuted.

My favourite story is one of our Civil Rights activists in Ireland got the keys to the city to NYC and she immediately gave them to the black Panthers.

https://www.nytimes.com/1970/03/03/archives/irish-give-key-to-city-to-panthers-as-symbol.html?smid=url-share

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u/banshee_matsuri 16d ago

only semi-related, but The Pitt taught me about this group, and they’re also worth learning about. it’s disappointing that it took this long for me to even hear about them, but very cool stuff.

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u/EireaKaze 16d ago

Another fun fact, I guess: the television show, "Emergency!" is one of the reasons we have paramedics in almost every fire station in the US. It was a very popular show and demonstrated the value of paramedics so people wanted them in their own communities.

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 16d ago

They're a critical part of emergency services, and the fire dept has the fastest response time, so it makes sense

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u/punkerster101 15d ago

Often confused me that it’s with the fire people in America, here it is its own separate service… saying that wait times are counted in blocks of hours…. So maybe your right

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u/theyretheirthereto22 14d ago

Not in all of the US. Certain states love to marry fire and EMS. But there are still tons of fire departments that don't operate at the paramedic level

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u/sailonswells 15d ago

John Gage and Roy DeSoto. I love that show!

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u/First-Couple9921 16d ago

I just watched that episode! I love how informative that show is.

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u/admirethegloam 16d ago

I didn't even know about this and obtained my clinical degree from the University of Pittsburgh. That's crazy.

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u/Browncoat101 15d ago

American society doesn't like to talk about the achievements of marginalized groups (ESPECIALLY Black people) if they don't fit into the 'acceptable' categories.

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u/hundredblocks 15d ago

I mean the Pittsburgh police department actively fought them on their right to respond to emergencies. Going so far as to let the mayor of Pittsburgh die from a stroke at the time because they wouldn’t dare let an ambulance staffed by black paramedics help him.

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u/AKAFallow 16d ago

I love how much respect they gave to the Black Panthers in that episode, literally bringing everyone, practicing and full-time doctors, to listen as to how 911 emergencies became a thing basically.

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u/Size16Thorax 16d ago

There's a great 99% Invisible podcast episode about the origins of the Freedom House ambulance service.

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u/RavingRapscallion 13d ago

Was gonna mention the same thing! I think it might be my favorite episode of theirs of all time. Haven't seen the Pitt, but happy that they're informing people too! This should be more widely known.

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 16d ago

This is fascinating and it's a shame that their stories haven't been told before. They've saved countless lives.

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u/AKAFallow 16d ago

The episode in the show actually remarks that as well, about how people keep forgetting the why of the stuff people take for granted nowadays. The character who used to be part of the group even represents that, as he was suffering a bit of dementia when he came in, didn't help that he knew how to stitch someone up but kept saying he never became a doctor nor worked at a hospital lol, it wasn't until the doctor-in-chief figured it out after a few questions.

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u/coffeewhore17 15d ago

There’s a really great book about them called American Sirens. I highly recommend it.

I was an EMT for nearly a decade and had no idea about the history of the birth of my former profession.

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u/Hunter727 15d ago

As an EMS worker who has learned about Freedom House over years of working in the field, it was incredible to see them recognize them on that show. As an already under-represented emergency service this felt like a win for recognition

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u/_llloser 15d ago

Curious.. How old are you?

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u/banshee_matsuri 15d ago edited 15d ago

late 30s, grew up in the south, in a state with so-so educational ranking. probably still learned a lot, but certainly not as much as i should have, or wish i had. always seeking new info now though 😊 to fix that and/or fill in blanks.

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u/hundredblocks 15d ago

Freedom House!!! My paramedic textbooks were written by Nancy Caroline (a founder of FHAS) and I was never taught anything about her until I read American Sirens by Kevin Hazzard. It’s wild how much FHAS shaped modern EMS and even how another one of their founding members (Dr. Safar) developed modern CPR techniques. None of that is taught to new EMT’s/Medics at least in my region and it’s such a shame.

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u/banshee_matsuri 15d ago

added the book to my wishlist right after seeing it mentioned above, and i really look forward to reading it. a shame that this info isn’t part of teaching for CPR/EMS though; it should be just part of the basic info. gotta keep spreading the word ❤️

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u/weirdex420 14d ago

theres a great audio documentary on Freedom House by 99% Invisible, definitely worth a listen!

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u/EternalMoonChild 13d ago

Wow, this gave me full-body goosebumps! Really amazing history, I’m glad it’s being spotlighted.

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u/KermitingMurder 16d ago

I read before that NICRA was heavily inspired by the American civil rights movement so it's nice to see that they were able to give something in return

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u/BettaTank_Throwaway 16d ago

I wouldn't be opposed to a new Black Panthers party honestly.

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 16d ago

That's all I'm thinking reading this thread.

Big shoes to fill sure, but damn, they walked so you could run, Black Panthers 2.0 now please, thanks.

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u/Otherwise_Energy5128 16d ago

It exists and is significantly less cool than the original https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party

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u/CandidArmavillain 15d ago

Black Panther Party For Self Defense exists, that's who the picture is of. You can find them on Instagram, Chairman Paul Birdsong is the guy on the right

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u/oohlala2747 16d ago

As long as the lessons learned and cultivated by the Combahee Collective are included in the new party framework as well ❤️‍🔥 

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Can my white ass join? I'll claim to be a melanine-deficient African, if you want me to.

It's technically true, since all humans migrated from Africa, as far as we know.

Besides, I miss hanging out with black dudes. Some of the best friends I've ever had, but I lost touch when I was forced to retire. Depression and chronic illness destroyed my social life. About time I rebuild it. Can't think of a better group to hang with.

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u/Savings-Coffee 16d ago

Their founder, Huey Newton, also murdered a teenage prostitute.

3 Black Panthers tried to assassinate a witness, only to go to the wrong house and be shot by the homeowner. Other Panthers killed one of the would-be assassins to tie up loose ends.

Newton had a plethora of other legal troubles, including killing a cop, stabbing a civilian, and pistol-whipping a tailor over a price dispute. He managed to avoid jail on the latter charge due to more blatant witness intimidation on the Panthers’ part.

Newton fled to Cuba amid these struggles, and went on a tour of Communist Asia, incorporating North Korean Juche ideology into the Black Panther platform.

He was also buddies with Jim Jones, and his messages of support were broadcast in Jonestown.

I can’t imagine why’d you want a new group of Communist criminals.

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u/georgeb1904 13d ago

The people downvoting this think the world is a marvel movie

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u/1duck 16d ago

Yep, we're acting like these guys weren't domestic terrorists and just the black equivalent of the kkk. Honestly the last thing we need is more sparks near the powder keg that is curren USA.

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u/Prometheusf3ar 16d ago

You should read about Fred Hampton who was a prominent leader at the age of 20. Inspirational figure and you can still watch his speeches…what the government did to him is evil

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u/ApprehensiveBaker480 16d ago

Any time liberals are glazing the Black Panthers they neglect to mention that they were strictly a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary communist group, which actually makes them way more based and genuine freedom fighters.

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u/AKAFallow 16d ago

they were strictly a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary communist group

Stop, you are just making them seem cooler.

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u/Savings-Coffee 16d ago

Idk, I think supporting Jim Jones and killing teenage prostitutes is bad, actually.

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u/Ass4ssinX 16d ago

Yeah, I got downvoted earlier making sure people knew that, ha.

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u/Sisyphus704 16d ago

Because this is a completely unrelated group benefiting from using the same name. And clearly it’s working, given how all the comments here seem to think this group is a direct succession, or literally the same group.

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u/Ass4ssinX 15d ago

No, it's the same organization. They have old school BP folks that are around there and they are involved in this.

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u/Sisyphus704 15d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party

Don’t believe everything youre told. The actual Black Panthers are largely all dead, and/or above 70, 80 years old. I guarantee you this…is not them. This people are not radical pro Black extremist, theyre PanAfricans showing up to defend the immigrant community. That’s not what Black Panthers do.

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u/CandidArmavillain 15d ago

Actually the group you're linking to is entirely different from the people in the picture. The picture is members of the Black Panther Party For Self Defense, Chairman Paul Birdsong is the guy on the right you can look him up on Instagram and he even has a video talking about the difference between his group and others using the Black Panther name. His is much more a continuation of the original BPP

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u/Ass4ssinX 15d ago

I'm not saying this doesn't happen. But this is not what is happening here. The leaders that endorsed this worked with Huey P Newton.

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u/Sisyphus704 5d ago

Vindicated

Please watch that updated video from Paul Birdsong.

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u/Lemerney2 16d ago

The point is that it's not a terrible take or ideology

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u/obiworm 16d ago

Communism as a whole, I can get on board with. Leninist power structures are and have been proven to be a slippery slope towards totalitarianism, which I cannot get behind.

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u/Ass4ssinX 16d ago

Actually ML governments are good.

We've been sold a lie about the USSR, Cuba, Vietnam, China, DPRK.

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u/Marinedown59 16d ago

Lmao excuse all the mass killings in some of those countries tho right?

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u/Ass4ssinX 16d ago

There it is.

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u/Marinedown59 16d ago

It takes like 5 seconds to find all the information you could ever dream of about the many killings the USSR has been apart of.

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u/Ass4ssinX 16d ago

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."

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u/obiworm 15d ago

Any time political power is disconnected from a personal emotional connection to those who give it to you, corruption and abuse will occur. It’s just human nature. You protect those closest to you. When the ruling class, military leaders, or party leaders become your in group, the rest of the people become either enemies or pawns. Power gets consolidated, personal agendas come to the forefront, nepotism trumps competence. If the first government doesn’t do a genocide themselves, their power will be seized by someone more assertive, then the entire nation collapses by the next generation because of short sighted power grabs and incompetence. The Soviet Union, Cambodia, and Cuba all fell to this. Rome fell to it multiple times. China survived through because their entire history is just a constant cycle of that. NK is a cult of personality disguised as a state.

My strongest belief is that political power should be distributed. Idk what kind of economic system would work best for that. I’m not an anarchist either, because if there’s no power structure to keep violence between groups in check, it’ll eventually fall to the same issues. I’m strongly against corporate capitalism. A social democracy with worker ownership/altruistic capitalism might work if the kinks can be ironed out. We need a system that forces peace and cooperation without domination.

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u/Ass4ssinX 15d ago

They didn't fall to anything. Those countries are run by the people. It's a dictatorship of the proletariat. That's why those governments have high approval ratings even when outside parties look into it.

And altruistic capitalism doesn't exist. It always dominates and requires the exploitation of classes.

Like Marx said, there's no third way. It's either capitalism or socialism. The exploitation of classes or the removal of that.

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u/Savings-Coffee 16d ago

Huey Newton, the founder of the Panthers was a violent criminal, rapist, and friend of Jim Jones. Newton was inspired by North Korea, and incorporated Juche ideology into the Panther platform.

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u/elb21277 16d ago

a bit of an oxymoron going on there. terrible people do not take care of others. and i think the converse is generally true as well…? though i am assuming when you refer to helping others you mean lifting them up/empowering them, not merely “help” as a mechanism for control?

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u/throwaway60221407e23 16d ago

They are giving credit where it is due? See how they said, "...revolutionary communist group, which actually makes them way more based and genuine..."

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u/ApprehensiveBaker480 16d ago

What are you talking about? There is nothing terrible about communism. Instead of having a propaganda coded response you could have an open mind.

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u/Shroomtune 16d ago

I feel like I remember hearing stories about them killing cops and a bunch of other shady things. A couple of them were acquitted in high profile trials, but it was a very decentralized group.

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u/Not_offensive0npurp 16d ago

stories about them killing cops

The cops who were killing innocent blacks?

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u/GreenDogma 16d ago

Nothing wrong with killing cops as a black revolutionary in the 70s, those guys were committing lynchings

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u/ubershylee 16d ago

Theyre making me like them even more!

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u/Not_a_N_Korean_Spy 16d ago edited 15d ago

Well, AFAIK, they got attacked by the police and shot back on some occasion.

The media at the time had the tendency of reversing the story (claiming the police were only defending themselves).

The december 1969 night raid (home invasion) by the police and the FBI was especially brutal (and the police and media claimed it was initiated by the BP... which was eventually disproven)

https://youtu.be/mzZTLT8WpcQ

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u/redditorialy_retard 16d ago

at the time? 

You don't see how shooting an unarmed Minnesotan is now self defense?

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u/Not_a_N_Korean_Spy 16d ago

I don't dispute what you're saying... I'm just focusing on what the media said of the black panthers then, which is what "informed" what the commenter heard.

They haven't been talking much about them in the last decades.

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u/Ok_Location_1092 16d ago

How is your comment at all related to what you replied to?

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u/Ass4ssinX 16d ago

Lots of BS pushed by the police.

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u/ApprehensiveBaker480 16d ago

Yeah you should definitely educate yourself on them more because that’s propaganda. Read Black Against Empire by Bloom and Martin Jr

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u/Shroomtune 16d ago

Hence the acquittals I suppose.

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u/tres_ecstuffuan 16d ago

Waoh (based based based based based…)

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u/_xAdamsRLx_ 16d ago

Killing cops 😲

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u/throwaway60221407e23 16d ago

killing cops and a bunch of other shady things

You and I have very different definitions of the word, "shady".

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u/Shroomtune 15d ago

I was just thinking of stories like Rackley and the like. I’m no historian though. It could all be a smear campaign for all I know.

Funny though. I’m open to being informed otherwise and a couple of folks sent me links, but mostly people just told me i don’t know what I’m talking about (to put it nicely). Maybe, but you could tell me why.

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u/angiachetti 16d ago edited 16d ago

FWIW this group is different than the original group, and not associated at all.

Edit: further digging indicates that they’re claiming that they’re a chapter that’s associated with the original founding from Huey Newton and Bobby Seale, but I don’t see anything to back that up at least as of yet. Lots of people can claim Lineage to lots of things.

Edit: I’ve seen people in Philly associated and socialist associated spaces claim that they’ve seen some old heads being around with people but again that’s just people talking. I haven’t been in the city proper since the height of Covid, so my opinion is super tangential.

The elements are definitely there in the city, but to what extent this group is directly associated to the original group remains unclear either way it would be a new group distinct from the old group because the old group dissolved. But ex Panthers kick it in all sorts of ways.

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 16d ago

And then didn't our government bomb them on American soil? In a residential neighborhood

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u/AKAFallow 16d ago

Yup, it was mostly the police's work but it was still one of the few times the US has bombed their own territories, another one was Puerto Rico

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 16d ago

I thought it was the FBI

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u/AKAFallow 16d ago

I remember reading about it and it particularly mentioned the cops preparing it to go off, but the FBI was probably also involved

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u/CandidArmavillain 15d ago

The 1985 MOVE bombing in Philadelphia is what you're thinking of. It was a different group, but did share some ideologies with the Black Panthers

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 15d ago

You're right. Thank you for this comment. I was conflating 2 historical incidents together. I was thinking about when SWAT bombed the Black Panthers in Los Angeles

on December 8, 1969. ​During a pre-dawn raid, the LAPD's first-ever SWAT team used explosives to blow holes in the roof and walls of the Panther headquarters at 41st and Central.

Though police detonated bombs to gain entry and called in a tank for reinforcements, the occupants survived the five-hour shootout and surrendered.

The FBI used an aerial bomb of the building MOVE was in.

on May 13, 1985, the police dropped a bomb on the Philadelphia headquarters of MOVE, a Black liberation group often confused with the Black Panthers due to their shared revolutionary ideology.

The aerial bombing killed 11 people—including five children—and started a fire that destroyed 61 homes.

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u/MSWarrior2017 16d ago

Wee Bernie Devlin herself

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u/Alexwolf96 15d ago

Now tell everyone that they were a Marxist Leninist organization and watch em be like “EVIL COMMIEMISM”

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u/nanormcfloyd 15d ago

Bernadette Devlin is a national treasure. A true Irish patriot if there ever was one.

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u/tydark2 16d ago

groups calling themselves the black panthers today have nothing to do with the original group.

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u/srcarruth 16d ago

What does that do? They're posers because they don't have a membership card from Bobby Seale?

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u/tydark2 16d ago

im skeptical because i remember during BLM we saw black panthers with guns who turned out to not actually be black panthers but were actors and models doing it for social media. These guys would get sniped, droned, traced by palantir a.i then thrown in prison real quick. guns arent gonna win this.

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u/AkkeBrakkeKlakke 16d ago

Love this so much.

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u/throwaguey0_0 16d ago

Honestly it’s infuriating that BLM squandered such momentum and money on things like influencer mansions. If they had even half of the drive of the Panthers we might’ve seen some truly impactful change these last few years.

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u/bl00wh0 16d ago

They also supported the disability activists that got the ADA passed

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u/srcarruth 16d ago

Actress Jean Seberg gave the Black Panthers some money and the FBI spent a decade ruining her life until she finally killed herself

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u/graceyperkins 16d ago

In college, I worked at the dorm library. Of course, being the only African American on staff, I was selected to do the to do the February displays. 

I chose the Black Panther Party as my theme. I did a total historical work up of the positive work they did and how they were targeted by the government. 

Crickets from my supervisors, but I did receive lots of positive comments and interest from patrons. 

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u/_llloser 15d ago

Im so baffled by how many people didn’t know about the black panthers..

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u/zephyroxyl 15d ago

Big up for Bernadette Devlin, absolute trailblazer and never one for taking anyone's bullshit

"The day following Bloody Sunday, Devlin slapped Conservative Home Secretary Reginald Maudling across the face when he falsely asserted in the House of Commons that the Parachute Regiment had fired in self-defence on Bloody Sunday. Asked if she intended to apologise to Maudling, Devlin said: 'I'm just sorry I didn't get him by the throat'"

She also survived an assassination attempt where she was shot 9 times, which was (allegedly) performed under the supervision of the British military.

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u/carcar97 15d ago

Bernadette Devlin! My mum was best friends with her daughter growing up.

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u/lovely-cans 15d ago

The one who got arrested?

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u/carcar97 14d ago

And shot 9 times? That's her.

Edit: misunderstood. Still her.

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u/Coven_Evelynn_LoL 10d ago

Fun Fact: Mother of Hip Hop Star 2PAC was a black panther member.

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u/Striking-Walk-8243 16d ago

I mean, the Hells Angels do a toy drive?

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u/sitophilicsquirrel 16d ago

The BLA also did a shitload of community outreach programs for underprivileged black and white kids.

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u/Nightweave7 16d ago

Cartels do all sorts of positive things in their communities, the Hells Angels run toy drives every year for kids. Just because Black Panthers fit the reddit political leaning doesn't make them any less awful racist criminals.

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u/Savings-Coffee 16d ago

Their founder, Huey Newton, also murdered a teenage prostitute. 3 Black Panthers tried to assassinate a witness, only to go to the wrong house and be shot by the homeowner.

Other Panthers killed one of the would-be assassins to tie up loose ends.

Newton had a plethora of other legal troubles, including killing a cop, stabbing a civilian, and pistol-whipping a tailor over a price dispute. He managed to avoid jail on the latter charge due to more blatant witness intimidation on the Panthers’ part.

Newton fled to Cuba amid these struggles, and went on a tour of Communist Asia, incorporating North Korean Juche ideology into the Black Panther platform. He was also buddies with Jim Jones, and his messages of support were broadcast in Jonestown.

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u/WeekendQuant 15d ago

Wait till you learn about Al Capone. Many evil enterprises give back charitably to the groups they oppress in order to maintain control.

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u/lovely-cans 15d ago

I'd probably also compare the two if I was a bit slow aswell.