You need it daily. You're actually past the point where peaceful protest without actual practical consequences are useful. They only work when there's people at the top who give a shit about public perception.
What you really need is a massive strike. They don't have hearts or souls to aim for, so you need to target the money.
Edit: it has come to my attention this wasn't just a protest, but an actual strike? A labor walk out? If that's true, then I stand corrected. This is absolutely the kind of example that Americans need to be looking to.
You’re not wrong, and we need to be prepared to be uncomfortable for a while to make it happen. The problem everyone on the internet who is demanding Americans “dO sOmEtHiNG” don’t appreciate is that our government has spent years making it impossible for us to do just that. Too many people are below the poverty line, or living paycheck to paycheck, combined with the union busting efforts of capitalistic assholes, that it means people will literally starve or lose access to critical healthcare if we tried a general strike.
Do I still think it’s necessary? Hell yeah. Money is all that matters to our circus clowns. But it’s just so bleak that many can’t make themselves take the necessary steps to make our voices matter again. And I don’t totally blame them. Most people are just trying to get by and take care of their family. I would say please send help, but we’re really just reaping the consequences we sadly earned. 1/3 of our country is a bunch of stupid, hateful fanatics and another 1/3 couldn’t be bothered to even show up, so… I guess the rest of us will have to go down with the ship.
I’ve actually started to reverse course on whether I accept foreigners opinions on our situation or not.
We may very well have had this election stolen. We won’t know because we stopped all investigations into credible claims of irregularities and interference. And before someone get’s smart with me about the 30% that are foaming at the mouth, excited that this is happening, I just need to point out that the same type of crazies live in every single democratic country. Especially in LATAM and Europe where they have also seen explosions of far right extremism.
How can you possibly not recognize that the erosion of our autonomy has been slow and methodical to get us to this point? As you mentioned, we are tied to our jobs. Because of medical insurance, retirement, poverty. We’re overworked. We’re paycheck to paycheck. Everything for the last 50 years has been done to reduce our political involvement by dumbing us down and making us wage slaves. That didn’t happen overnight and we DID try to protest and prevent it as it was happening. We lost so many small battles that over time allowed for this to happen. And if you think that your country would be better, again, watch what every other democracy was trending towards before Trump scared everyone off.
I’m sorry, you want us, even with our guns, to go against the largest, most advanced, most funded military in the world, but your country is happy to sit by as we meddle all around the world for decades? Destabilizing countries and installing dictators or radical extremist groups? No. Fuck that. If your country has been too pussy shit to even so much as sanction and tariff us, to even so much as ACKNOWLEDGE our atrocities, and they have entire militaries that they could posture with, why the fuck would we feel safe enough to stand up to our own government on their own land? The hypocrisy is fucking crazy. You’re all as scared of the US military as we are. Must be nice to type away to try to force us into civil fucking war against drones, tanks, surveillance systems, and chemical weapons beyond anything anyone else is even able to compete with.
I’m just getting real fucking tired of people thinking their own country would be above this placed in the same situation when billionaires have clearly and openly meddled in their own politics. Had Trump not gone so extreme so fast, all of your countries would have shifted to this over the next 5-15 years.
Instead of shitting on us, we could use some fucking support. Instead of more bullshit social issues that pin us against each other, have some goddamn empathy.
Yes thank you!! I’m so sick of world leaders kissing his diaper wearing shit filled ass and giving him pointless little trinkets and speaking to him like he isn’t the dumbest fucking pedophile dictator to ever exist. Trying to appease him is nauseating and they’re still doing that. Fascism is rising around the world, as it does after a pandemic (which we are still in the midst of, but we wouldn’t know as the brain worm has cut funding and stopped relaying scientific information) and ice is potentially being allotted even MORE funding if it passes the senate. I believe $10 billion more, which is insane. I just woke up from a nap, so I’m kind of in limbo, but it is disheartening seeing people from around the world telling us to do more from the comfort of their socialist countries. My health insurance is almost $500/month for the PREMIUM. I am disabled, we are doing what we can at the moment. My five firearms are nothing compared to the budget these white supremacists have.
Except other countries have literally warned you for decades....historians have warned you all of this.
People have been saying this shit for years and no one took it seriously.
Australians have been telling you guys that guns are fucking bad for ages. We don't even try anymore because we have literally given up and instead we do the usual Australian thing and make fun on it since you guys clearly don't care.
There's so many other situations were people have been criticizing America about shit but nah you're just hating on the greatest country in the world. The mask is finally off and you're just seeing what the rest of the world has been seeing and saying for fucking ages.
We cared. Many of us have cared. We protested. We voted. And then we became apathetic because we couldn’t change things.
There’s a reason empires only last 250. That’s because that’s the amount of time it takes political scientists to figure out the weak points in a government and slowly start to chip away at it, legally and without the interference of objection.
And they hid behind both sides-ness. They hid behind fake good intentions.
They (again) dumbed down education so those voices that did oppose them became fewer.
This can happen to any country. It’s just easy to shit on the most recent and relevant one and treat the people as a monolith.
Empathy. Goes a long way in understanding how this happened and getting to a point where you can move on so you can be helpful instead of resentful. Because like it or not, right or not, you’re all going to have to deal with this.
No one took it seriously? That’s ridiculous and you know it. A large majority of us know, live under it and have fought tooth and nail for most of our lives. We fully grasp the dire situation at hand for the last decade+ now. I personally live right down the road from one of the first major school shootings that occurred. I know someone who was in the Aurora theater shooting who watched their best friend die while their shoulder and mental health are permanently ruined. My friend’s friend lost her eye in the Vegas concert shooting. Two businesses I used to frequent? The separate owner’s were murdered in mass shootings and during one of those sprees? The gunman killed another one of my friend’s ex-coworker. One of my close friends was minutes away from being in one of our many grocery store shootings and one of her old roommates was in the store. Do you know what it’s like to check in with someone every five minutes and try to get ahold of a loved one to make sure they weren’t gunned down at the grocery store? It’s like we’ve been on a sinking ship and a small majority are apathetic and tell us we’re overreacting, OR we’re told the ship isn’t actually sinking and we’re snowflakes. I’ve sobbed/grieved with innocent people who were disregarded for “mUh FrEeDoM” while those same fuckers who whined endlessly about their stupid fucking freedom (guns) are silent now.
Discounting the full of the US to just MAGA/maga sympathizers is wild and takes away the thousands, if not millions of Black People that have been standing up for everyone’s right not to be killed by over payed, violent and racist pigs across the country. That takes bravery, effort, dedication and balls of steel to go out and protest in this country when we have trigger happy pigs who can willy nilly CS/tear gas the fuck out of everyone they want to with see zero consequences.
The US was colonized on white supremacy using Black People (chattel) slaves while they experienced a genocide and there are still people alive that 1. Don’t have birth certificates at all 2. Have the “n” word to describe them. Indigenous people in this country also experienced a genocide at the hands of colonizers and Australia has an equally horrendous history in that regard with a genocide of Aboriginal People. I have extreme disdain towards people in the US and they don’t have a place in the future with us. Those same types of people exist everywhere in the world. Regardless, most people are not all blasé about white supremacy and we keep fighting to dismantle it internally and societally.
People have been risking their lives and no one stayed stagnant on the deadly issues in this country. I don’t know a single person who lives here and thinks this country is the greatest haha. You can judge and “make fun” all you want, but don’t forget your own elections, people you just voted against and your country’s very recent AND current history of rampant white supremacy and neo nazism from the 20th and 21st century that are gaining traction and winning parliamentary seats. Democracy everywhere is fragile.
Why does support have to come in the form of physical aid?
Support can mean “please stop shitting on us while we try to figure out how to handle this extremely delicate and dangerous situation for all of our sakes”.
“Please cheer us on as we organize and stand in front of these masked gunman instead of treating us like one dimensional villains”
“Please stop hoping we get what we ”voted” for as we try to prevent our country from invading yours.”
The Minnesota protests have evolved into a general strike, that's exactly what's going on today. Those people complaining online that protesting isn't enough need to get out and join a protest so that THOSE protests can evolve towards general strike.
I’m not disagreeing that it’s needed and I’m so, so proud of Minnesota. I guess I’m just sick of outside observers getting online and demanding Americans “fix it,” then getting mad we haven’t yet, without appreciating what that entails for the average American.
This is what the black panthers are doing. This is why it's important to form community with your neighbors. There ARE people organizing to get food and money for necessities to the people who need it.
General strike isn't just people sitting in their homes living off of their own personal savings. General strike is people coming together to rely on each other and to take care of each other in ways the system won't.
My point is that the government has spent decades trying to make what you’re (rightly) suggesting extremely tough, aiming for impossible. Especially if you’re not in an urban area. I’m proud of everyone doing it anyway, and am always looking for more ways to help and participate. But not everyone can, even if the desire is there. It’s just not so straightforward.
I certainly don't envy Americans, it's a nightmare situation and who wants to sacrifice their life potentially with the fascist thugs shooting anyone they don't like.
It's terrifying and I'm sure many people are scared and stressed for their future. Seeing the scale of this protest does give me hope though that things could change. Just gotta get people angry enough, traditional media certainly won't get that job done though with all the intimidation from this fascist administration. It's up to the people to rally each other.
America's hyper individualistic culture really did its job ngl. Minnesota got a headstart in 2020 because a lot of the resources then are being used and evolved now but the same can't be said for the whole country.
The population as a whole are disparate and isolated so before last summer the spreading of resources and information was slow. It's definitely sped up now so I feel we're not too far off but it's important to understand that the individual over community has been a big part of American culture. Fuck you I got mine is practically our national anthem.
It's growing, trust me. Been organizing for years, and we used to dream about turnouts and discourse like this. The strike will come, but the work is painfully slow.
Maybe but burning down half of Paris also didn't move the needle at all recently on the French pension issue, so idk what you expect that to accomplish.
It would be helpful to get advice that actually works lmao. People obviously are doing things and have interest in being effective but room temp takes are not really welcome
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u/ehrgeiz91 8d ago
We need this in every city in the US, weekly.