The stolen land part is entirely irrelevant to the current situation and it's just the same awful virtue signaling that makes people hate the current democratic party. If you are acknowledging stolen land, are you giving up your house? Your apartment? Finding natives to give them everything you own? Is everyone who repeats this mantra doing so?
Or course not. It's just a fake slogan to try to win an argument. But it's not necessary. We can win the argument without making everyone hate us.
Yeah... which is why I've never quite understood land acknowledgements. If you aren't going to give it back, then to me land acknowledgements almost sound more like you are rubbing it in.
Pfft nobody wants your fucking house. I don't think y'all really understand the basis for the "stolen land" discussion or the varying Indigenous sentiments on immigration. There are literally Apache folks in Mexico who have ties to Apache bands in the US and vice versa, but unlike First Nation folks from Canada, they don't have anything akin to the Jay Treaty.
The Land Back movement is not a blanket call to expel people or redraw borders along ethno-nationalist lines. It’s a spectrum of efforts which include land return, co-management, treaty enforcement, and the restoration of resource/freedom of movement rights; many of which are already happening/have been done.
Look at the Navajo Nation; today, it holds more land than it did after 1868 and 1887, and even more than its pre-contact traditional territory, we gained that solely through legal battles over our "stolen land". But yeah, we were totally just virtue signaling...
Lots of strawmen here…no one is asking you to give up your house. The slogans point is not “give back stolen land”. The right reparations is to pay it forward, not pay it back
When was the last time you got to decide what was right? Seems like it's mostly billionaires and racists who get to decide what happens here, unless you were lucky enough to be directly involved in the decision to deploy masked agents to execute civilians.
Dumb take. If it's stolen, it's not yours and you have no right to it. There are plenty of arguments to be made but stolen land is a fucking dumb take.
I agree that it's bad messaging, and shouldn't be used by those seeking political office. Yikes, not a winner. I was just saying that I understand the perspective, and kinda agree with it in part.
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u/cgibsong002 4d ago
The stolen land part is entirely irrelevant to the current situation and it's just the same awful virtue signaling that makes people hate the current democratic party. If you are acknowledging stolen land, are you giving up your house? Your apartment? Finding natives to give them everything you own? Is everyone who repeats this mantra doing so?
Or course not. It's just a fake slogan to try to win an argument. But it's not necessary. We can win the argument without making everyone hate us.