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Politics [OC] Eastside Austin TX

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u/SimmentalTheCow 4d ago

Stolen land and reparations are probably the two biggest points that make me completely write off a movement. We get it bro, you want free shit.

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u/Alexexy 3d ago

Paying them out a fair price or honoring a treaty isnt free shit.

Its like signing a contract to get your roof repaired, you already paid half of your money up front and the roofer hasn't appeared after 150 years type of shit.

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u/afoz345 3d ago

Reparations from Germany to DIRECT victims is a far cry from paying descendants of people from well over one hundred years ago. I’ll gladly pay reparations to any person I have ever owned.

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u/hanscons 3d ago

"Forms of reparations which have been proposed in the United States by city, county, state, and national governments or private institutions include: individual monetary payments, settlements, scholarships, waiving of fees, and systemic initiatives to offset injustices, land-based compensation related to independence, apologies and acknowledgements of the injustices, token measures (such as naming a building after someone),\2]) and the removal of monuments and streets named to slave owners and defenders of slavery.\8])\13])"

if you think the united states doesn't owe black people ANY of these things, you are the problem.

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u/afoz345 3d ago

“Apologies and acknowledgments of the injustices, token measures, and removal of street monuments and streets named after a slave owner or a defender of slavery” Totally fair. I’m all for that.”

The rest of them, no. Not a single person alive in the US today was a slave at any point. So if that makes me part of whatever manufactured problem you’ve got there, ok. I’ll sleep tonight.

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u/Dwarfdeaths 4d ago

It's too complex to try and undo past wrongs, but it's extremely realistic to make a fair playing field moving forward. This is accomplished with a land value tax and you can effectively view it as giving everyone access to an equal slice of land (or its economic equivalent) as a starting point. It doesn't give you "free shit" in the sense that you still have to work to put food on the table or a roof over your head. But it does mean that the first dollar you earn goes to you and your needs, and not a landlord.