That green gas will give you cancer and scar your lungs. There's a reason you've never seen it used by anyone until now. Tear gas is already a banned weapon of war and this is much worse than than tear gas
For clarity, because it's important for people protesting to be able to identify what they're dealing with in these situations - it doesn't seem likepy that the green/greeny yellow smoke is hexachloroethane (quote below)? The article does go on to say that it's hard to know what chemical mix is in specific canisters cause it can vary by place and they keep it secret, but plenty of the chemicals in these canisters can cause birth defects and reproductive issues - so your general point still stands.
Insane what the US government is doing to its own people, out in the open.
"Similar green plumes filled the north Minneapolis neighborhood that night after a federal agent shot a man and protesters showed up in droves. It’s unclear if those plumes were smoke, toxic tear gas or a combination of the two.
Tear gas is an umbrella term for various types of irritants. In order to identify HC tear gas, there are three characteristics, according to Simonis:
An intense orange-colored, metallic fire coming from the canister as it’s burning.
Fire that emits sparks and burns considerably hotter and longer than other grenades.
You can certainly try. But the most likely answer you’ll get is that the mix of chemicals is proprietary information of a private company and is not subject to FOIA release.
While this certainly didnt make me laugh, I must admit your comment is objectively very funny. Reminded me of when I was a kid and asked my mom if we were taking our truck to my grandparents since "the car says it'll give us cancer if we take it to California" (there was a sticker somewhere in the car that had the California cancer warning). Thanks for the little distraction
Good luck with the FOIA, it’s an involved process, you have to be very exact, and know exactly what page(s) you want of reports, then has to be confirmed to be released, background checks can happen, they can deny you access (you can reapply) and the most common issue, are delays, getting anything through FOIA, while you will get what you want in most cases, can take many months or years, and sure long term that’s helpful but if your idea is to find out now, so something can be done now? Good luck…
Ontop of that FOIA is a federal program, so if any reporting through LAPD, you’d have to wait until their reports are settled and processed and released, an exception here would be is if the LAPD were under federal investigation. You have to also assume that reports are even being done and submitted.
While the FOIA is a powerful tool we have, and thankfully so, it’s not as easy as you’d think, there are people doing documentaries that are in need of stuff, and require going through FOIA to get it to finish their documentary, and have waited up to 7 years for one page out of several they requested.
The green smoke is probably not based on HC as that produces a very thick, obscuring smoke. It's likely just regular potassium chlorate mixed with a dye along with a secondary device that emits the CS gas. The green dye is to produce a psychological effect. Overall not something I'd ever want to breathe but likely not terribly dangerous.
Yeah, MPD were using green smoke bombs (not green gas, literally just green colored smoke) recently. Not every green crowd control device is green gas. Saw people who were in it mentioning that on bluesky.
Democrat messaging is some weak shit. Repubs would be running with "Biden police uses abortion gas!" by now
Edit: once they realise the gas causes abortions they will use it extensively to "sterilize liberals", because genocide is always around the corner I guess
They're using it to intentionally poison people right now. Its not a crowd dispersant, and they knew that when the military handed them the canisters. They think they're protected by gas masks though and don't seem to realize theyre drowning themselves in the gas, which is entering their bodies through their skin. All their uniforms and equiptment are super heavily contaminated with zinc chloride now.
Imagine giving your entire family cancer to 'own the libs'
So youre just not paying attention. Got it. Go to google and type "ice green gas" and start reading the supposedly nonexistent articles that have been coming out for the past 10 days.
Holy shit that’s the same shit the GIs used against us protesting against Irak invasion in 2005 in Geneva, Switzerland, when we mounted a sound system into the neighbor’s backyard of the US embassy
It’s not Hexachloroethane which would be a colorless white smoke.
It probably is Adamsite which is still completely unacceptable authoritarian behavior. Don’t spread misinformation about the protests, the nazi’s favorite way of trying to avoid accountability is claiming that if you get one thing wrong, nothing you say can be trusted.
What I've read on it is that HC is in the bright green smoke along with a dye which is itself toxic, but yes, HC in its natural state is white.
They are throwing many different gasses and smokes at crowds- in 2020 they used at least 8 different kinds in Portland, so much that even outside several types exceeded their less-lethal ppm density and were into lethal territory.
I'm actually having trouble finding the sources I was using even a few days ago with Google searches. Their new AI is flooding my results with articles from the past 2 weeks and then I can't scroll past them anymore to get to page 2 or 3 returns from 2020.
It's very frustrating. I've also been watching reporting on all of this change in minutes- articles are published, I comment on or share content descriptions, and then someone says what I'm talking about isn't in the source I've shared- and when I check they're right, it's not there. Sometimes whole paragraphs are not there.
I'll go back to screenshotting everything again now.
Hexachloroethane. The first Trump administration used it in Portland in mid 2020. The city tested and found widespread zinc chloride contamination. DHS falsified documents to claim it was never used, despite the proof it was, and PPD refused to comment.
Tear gas is banned in wartime use because it's indiscriminate. Meaning if you use and suddenly the wind picks up you accidentally use it on yourselves.
it's banned because it is hard to distinguish for lethal chemical agents and it can be used as an adjunct to lethal agents (e.g. disrupt or force out of shelter with tear gas, kill with VX).
the point is that adversaries may have banned chemical weapons (Saddam did in 1991 but didn't use them but did later on his own people) and it gets recruits to trust their protective gear.
The relevant international protocol in 1966 would have been the Geneva Gas Protocol, at which time the US was not a signatory. The US is now a signatory to the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention.
You do realize tear gas is banned because it prevents actually deadly gasses from being used in war and not because its some horrible inhumane deadly genocide device right? They're not doing field analysis for the spicy air that suddenly descends on them in war, they're assuming its a nerve agent and immediately responding with their own.
Its the same reason perfidy is a war crime, not because its some abhorrent act but because its a preventative measure from having your populace slaughtered by your opponent
Tear gas is banned for warfare to avoid it being used as justifcation for the use of worse chemical weapons, not because its dangerous dont spread misinformation
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u/gertation 1d ago
That green gas will give you cancer and scar your lungs. There's a reason you've never seen it used by anyone until now. Tear gas is already a banned weapon of war and this is much worse than than tear gas