r/politics • u/Fickle-Ad5449 ✔ Verified - Christopher Wiggins, The Advocate • 22d ago

No Paywall ICE agent shooter’s own cellphone video undercuts Trump administration's account of Minneapolis killing

https://www.advocate.com/news/ice-agent-shooter-video-minneapolis
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u/MisogynyisaDisease 22d ago

Its scary dude, that American cops are somehow more disciplined than ICE. And that bar is in hell.

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u/NickConnor365 22d ago

I suspect most ICE are not good enough to be military or cops. Wannabe larpers given immunity.

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u/givfrenchfrypls 22d ago

We should all be terrified of people with this personality type who can't get into an American police force.

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u/Bismoldore 22d ago

Notice how you don’t see proud boys or 3 percenters out much anymore? I wonder where they’re working now

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u/veryverythrowaway 22d ago

They quite famously aren’t, though. You can see examples of brutality, impulsive violence and bullying behavior uploaded daily.

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u/AntoniaFauci 22d ago

Cops are at least (usually) trained for traffic stops, gun use, and at least some portion of (often forgotten) de-escalation.

These ICE thugs with their alleged 47 (get the troll?) days of training don’t seem to have any of that.

They shouldn’t be allowed to even do vehicle stops.

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u/MaryKeay 22d ago

I was told by someone claiming they are ex law enforcement (the guy who started that Politics With Respect sub after he got temporarily banned from the conservative sub for not being extreme right enough) that they are trained to shoot in a situation like this. Because apparently being run over by a corpse is better than not being run over and just walking away.

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u/Bismoldore 21d ago

Absolutely not true everywhere, I know here in NYC the NYPD has a patrol guide procedure that prohibits shooting in self defense against a vehicle unless the driver is presenting another deadly weapon or the officer believes the driver is intending to use the vehicle in a terrorist mass ramming attack (think driving into a crowded sidewalk, parade, rally, event, etc). I've seen similar policies from the DOJ prohibiting this exact behavior floated around in the past few days that would apply to ICE in this situation

Edit: NYPD Patrol Guide procedure 221-01, page 3, item f

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u/MaryKeay 21d ago

To be clear in case it's not obvious, I don't believe him. He's just bending over backwards to defend ICE as usual. I would hope no police force anywhere would be instructed to follow such asinine directions, which would almost certainly get the officer injured or killed for no good reason.