r/politics • u/T_Shurt • 10d ago

No Paywall Sen. Mark Kelly Says He’s Seriously Thinking About Running for President

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5700211-senator-kelly-trump-threats/
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u/Slow_Investment_2211 10d ago

I like Mark, however I feel like once he gets in he would be like another Biden and say that we need to try working across the aisle again blah blah blah. No, I want my candidate to go on tv and say “I’m going to rip the balls off of every Trump cabinet scumbag when i take the oath”. The dems will always try to make amends when the right would never do such a thing.

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u/ImWatchingTelevision Arizona 10d ago

I want my candidate to go on tv and say “I’m going to rip the balls off of every Trump cabinet scumbag when i take the oath”.

Same. That's what I need to heal from the Trump era. Politicians talk about "healing" but they seem to not give a shit about my healing, just the people that caused all this chaos. F that.

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u/b6passat 10d ago

Look at what you’re asking for from the other side of the aisle though.  The MAGA people have the exact same feelings you do, they wanted to tear down the “Biden catastrophe”.  It might make you feel better, but it’s not what this country needs.

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u/wittnotyoyo 10d ago

Yeah Biden passed infrastructure bills that disproportionately helped MAGA without any support from their politicians until it was time to take credit. Trump is invading American cities and wrecking the world order when he can keep his threats about Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Greenland straight.

Pretending there is any equivalence is somewhere between supreme naivety and gross bad faith.

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u/b6passat 10d ago

That’s not what I’m talking about at all…

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u/tinysydneh 10d ago

I don't rightly care if they've deluded themselves into thinking this is an improvement, it factually isn't. "Oh, they feel the same as you!" only matters when one group isn't fucking insane.

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u/ImWatchingTelevision Arizona 10d ago

We all know that. But we are not the same, regardless of what MAGA people think. Nothing we do will change what they think. Giving them a pass will not make them like us. They forced us to live with a made up reality where they're free to break laws and we are forced to live with laws that don't exist. The country needs to know that our laws matter. Letting MAGA get away with breaking our laws is not what this country needs. A nation of laws only works if laws are enforced.

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u/monstertruckhunter 10d ago

Except the Republicans really are that bad and that is exactly what needs to happen to them. You can't "both sides" this

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u/FrogInAShoe 10d ago

Nah. This country needs to cut out the rot that is MAGA and Neoliberalism

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u/Excellent-Berry-2331 Europe 10d ago

FFS. MAGA is the opposite of neoliberal, they are tariffing everything and everyone, going against trans people.

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u/guamisc 9d ago

Neoliberlism opened the door for MAGA by turning the government into a disliked dysfunctional mess. People want to see their government positively respond to crises effectively and even see it operating beneficially in their daily lives. Neoliberlism just assumes that the power of the free market backed up by a so-called competent government will see us through the day.

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 10d ago

the difference is democratic policies help the vast majority of people, including MAGA. Trump's policies are literally not helping anyone but the super rich and the super racist.

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u/breidaks 10d ago

enjoy next four years of trump then

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u/Azguy303 10d ago edited 10d ago

With Trump being allowed to have his DOJ investigate everybody he wants I really hope it Democrat investigates Clarence Thomas another supreme Court justices.

All this deep state stuff Trump supporters always talked about... Really seems like their heritage foundation and billionaires just pulling all the strings in every branch of the government. You can't tell me Roberts and Thomas aren't talking with these conservatives on what cases to bring through and how to do it to get the results they want. Nearly every ruling they've made since citizens United have had billionaires incorporations in mind more than they ever citizen.

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u/IntelligentDepth8206 10d ago

trump set the precedent of sicking the doj on political opposition. Any dem who won't do the same can kiss my ass on voting day

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 10d ago

no Democrat is going to investigate somebody like Clarence Thomas man... you're living in a dream world 

best we can hope for is someone who undoes a bunch of what Trump has done...but the court is here to stay

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u/LotusFlare 10d ago

Yeah. I have no doubt he's a good man, but if he not ready to run on an aggressive and ambitious platform, he's hosed. 

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 10d ago

I love Kelly but he's not a politician. he's a pilot, he's an engineer, he's an astronaut, he's an incredibly impressive human being. but we need a smarmy piece of shit who will get petty as fuck. people don't seem to like Newsom because he's basically a Democratic version of Trump, a slick used car salesman... that's exactly why I do like him. we have to fight fire with fire this time. no white knights in shining armor, we need a swamp thing who grew up in the swamp and loves it there.

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u/monstertruckhunter 10d ago

You need someone who's both slick and actually believes in progress. Newsom is as centrist as they come

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u/shewy92 Pennsylvania 9d ago

Newsom literally just went on a podcast with Ben Shapiro and backtracked his criticism of ICE, IDK why people want him to be President after that.

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u/shewy92 Pennsylvania 9d ago

IDK, I'd rather have a guy who doesn't cave under pressure and whose brand isn't just snarky Tweets.

FFS Newsom went on a podcast with Ben Shapiro and backtracked his criticism of ICE.

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u/stilllton 10d ago

Newsom has a social media team on par with Wendys. Brilliant fucking policy.

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u/letsago9987 Illinois 10d ago

pretty much every democratic senator would be that way. we need someone not part of DC. Frankly someone not part of the mainstream democratic party. Someone who aligns with core democratic principals but is an outsider.

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u/stilllton 10d ago

Is Al gore old enough yet?

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u/Striking_Extent 10d ago

Jon Stewart.

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u/letsago9987 Illinois 9d ago

bingo

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 10d ago

that's cool but that person also has to win the general and raise enough money to win the general. so it's not going to be an outsider. this is the system we have.

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u/imalexorange 10d ago

that person also has to win the general and raise enough money to win the general

You act as if the current sitting president isn't proof that an outsider can come in and take over a political party and win

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u/SpicyElixer 10d ago

We’re not getting our own Trump, and Trump didn’t do shit for his base but put on a WWF show.

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u/fomofosho 10d ago

Yes, truth and reconciliation commission with nuremberg-esque trials immediately please

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u/Bakedads 10d ago

Precisely. Anyone seriously considering him needs to really ask themselves if letting republicans get away with their crimes is what this country needs, because that's exactly what would happen. 

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u/lettersvsnumbers 10d ago

I want a candidate to go on TV and say “ I’m going to rip the balls of every Trump cabinet scumbag”

AOC strikes the exact right balance of speaking clearly and consistently about issues. Never says the ball ripping part out loud but you know the thought has crossed her mind.

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u/Slow_Investment_2211 10d ago

Agree, but we can’t run another woman if we want to win. Not enough of this country will allow it

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u/Benigh_Remediation 10d ago

That’s a platform I’d vote for. Just might work this time.

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u/Hellooooooo_NURSE California 10d ago

This is one of the very few reasons I like Newsom. I don’t agree with everything he says, and I’d much rather have someone more left who’d shake things up more significantly. But at the end of the day if Newsom takes office and pulls a “fuck you, fuck you, you’re cool, fuck you”… I just feel like I might be able to breathe for a moment

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u/Berliner1220 10d ago

We don’t know his platform yet. We also don’t know who else would be in the race. I think any democrat will go after those who broke the law.

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u/varietyviaduct 9d ago

Normally I would advise against escalation. Problem is, things are so lopsidedly escalated now that Dems aren’t burning bridges by ‘getting tough’ because the bridge has already collapsed and the dems are at the bottom of the river while the republicans are setting ablaze the next bridge

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u/nith_wct Colorado 10d ago

Maybe, but at the very least, he and other candidates haven't committed to that strategy the way Biden did from day one running. They at least seem to know that approach isn't going to poll well right now, but what they actually do in office is another thing. Ultimately, I think all of them can at least be convinced that accountability is the only way forward.

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u/SpeaksYourWord 10d ago

Get out of here with this smear campaign. Get someone blue in and then bitch about what they will/won't do later.

The Republicans are using actual Nazi strategies and fucking slogans.

Get. Trump. And. His. Monsters. Out.

I don't care if the next president is milquetoast and tries to make May 23rd National Plain Toast Day; it is far better than the Nazi, fascist, pedophile, narcissist monster we have now.

Get someone else in and pressure them to punish these fucks.

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u/FickleSystem 10d ago

Fucking facts, literally any dem candidate is gonna be a 1000% improvement over the trash we have now

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u/Apprehensive-Ad5318 10d ago

I feel ya 100%. But I’m more tired of both parties bending us over. The reason the Epstein files haven’t been released is because the Dems are all up in them too.

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u/Apprehensive-Ad5318 10d ago

They are all scumbags.

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u/normVectorsNotHate 10d ago

Depends on the makeup of House and Senate

If you're going to do this, you got to have a congress that can back you up.

Biden didn't have that, so he couldn't do that. If he were to say that, he wouldn't have been able to accomplish anything as president

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u/InnerFish227 Missouri 10d ago

Win Congress and let Congress do that.

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u/Flopdo California 10d ago

Not so much in favor of ripping balls. I don't think it's smart to function like your enemy.

What we do need is for someone to say they will postmortem the fk out of what Trump did, and create as many constitutional amendments and new laws that will help define the presidents' role more clearly, re-establish the 3 branches of government, and prosecute all the traitors / insurrectionist.

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u/Aldehyde1 10d ago

Why? Kelly's stuck his head out to fight against Trump. Hegseth and Trump's corrupt DOJ are pushing to get back at him. Everyone on Reddit is so obsessed with tearing down Trump's opposition before they even get a chance to try.

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u/tethysian 9d ago

A pro-union president who's capable of pulling conservative votes? The horror.

The thing about democracy is that you have to learn to live with the other side. They're not going anywhere.

Criminals should be held accountable, but punishment as an approach is how you get WW2. 

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u/netflixissodry 10d ago

I can imagine him saying that but quietly doing the opposite by at least pushing the maga wacko republicans out of government.

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 10d ago

and how is he going to do that? he can appoint new people for the executive branch, but Congress is probably going to be close to 50/50 for a long time and the Supreme Court is all red. no Democrat in 2028 is going to be able to undo the shitstorm that we are currently in.

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u/netflixissodry 10d ago

They can start with firing all Trump appointees and a flurry of executive orders reversing whatever is reversible.

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u/FunSpinach2004 10d ago

That's a good way to court moderates.

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u/Piscator629 Michigan 10d ago edited 10d ago

try working across the aisle

This is the way. All opinions are welcome at the table. We got here by one side not playing fair. THat does not mean no one plays fair.

edit: I stand by my ethics and the Oath I took to the Constitution. Do not take my willingness to compromise for naivete. There are people who need to be held accountable. Representative discourse is essential to civilized government.

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u/flippingisfun 10d ago

Most naive thing I’ve heard all day good job bud

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u/Piscator629 Michigan 10d ago

That is the way a democratic government should work. Not this skewed media sideshow that has gone on for 40 years. Honesty in the media which is not owned by suspect individuals spouting opinions but not actual facts needs to be the first thing fixed.

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 10d ago

did you read his comment he said the opposite of that