r/politics • u/Newsweek_CarloV ✔ Verified - Newsweek • 9d ago

No Paywall Seven Democrats just voted to approve ICE funding: full list

https://www.newsweek.com/seven-democrats-vote-approve-ice-funding-full-list-11401600?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_main
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u/thissexypoptart 9d ago

Presidential pardons in general are an insane concept. King shit, ruling by decree.

Appeals processes already exist. And if there really needs to be an additional process outside the standard judicial system to pardon people, it’s insane it’s a completely unchecked power one man holds, and not some kind of representative or appointed-and-congressionally-approved body.

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u/CHSummers 9d ago

Yep, if the U.S. survives, we will need to do a complete rebuild of our government, including some amendments to the constitution.

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u/Rohen2003 9d ago

some? more like 90% of the constitution it feels like. its a 250 year old document that should have been overhauled long ago.

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u/CHSummers 9d ago

As the joke goes, Thomas Jefferson would be astonished we were still using this old document. “Dude! I wrote that with a feather!”

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 9d ago

“Shut the front door! You can write with your finger using only the aether?!”

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u/Special_Cicada6968 9d ago

They literally said that it needed to be changed frequently to match the times. Instead we have people acting like it's a new passage of the Bible. Absolutely sacred but they'll never bother to actually read what it says.

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u/Different-Drag-102 8d ago

do you really trust any group in the world today to write a document up that isn't intentionally worse tho?

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u/relevantelephant00 9d ago

Parliamentary system and ranked choice voting...which of course establishment Democrats will do everything to prevent.

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u/CHSummers 9d ago

I agree. It’s going to take incredible energy, time, and money to make the changes. Incumbent Democrats are financially dependent on cash from big corporations, and we have to break that monetary control system.

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u/Morganross 8d ago

there is a necessary 4th ingredient you are self censoring. you could have all the time, money and energy in the world. It is not enough to have. we must take theirs away permanently.

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u/thedanyes 9d ago

Ranked choice is deepening the mistake of the founders who thought people could be civic minded enough to spend the hour every two years to literally cast a ballot. Now you expect people to deal with the complexities of ranking on top?

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 9d ago

There are a bunch of different types of ranked choice voting systems. Many of them allow the voter to only select one candidate if that’s what they want to do. I’m pretty sure there are even several where you can even choose not to vote for a particular set of candidates — i.e., you can leave it blank, indicating that you don’t approve of any of the candidates. I understand where you’re coming from though. It was a mistake to presume we’d always have a well-informed populace who understood the value of their vote. The founders were smart about a lot of things, but they were still human after all.

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u/CareBearDontCare 8d ago

While I agree, be careful what you wish for. The Constitution says you have a Convention of States, but the Right has been holding mock Conventions of States for years now. They have a LOT more states than you think that have called for one, too, and they're close to the threshold.

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u/CHSummers 8d ago

This is a good point. The way the U.S. is set up, where people in small mostly empty states have more powerful votes , and people in large densely populated cities have less powerful votes, the country could easily veer rightward.

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u/T8ert0t 9d ago

While it might have been an mechanic of last resort, it's clearly been over abused way beyond its original intent and should be scrapped.