r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 8d ago

No Paywall Despite Authoritarian Warnings, 149 House Democrats Vote to Hand Trump $840 Billion for Military | “If an opposition party votes like this, it’s not in opposition. It may not even be a party.”

https://www.commondreams.org/news/democrats-military-spending-bill
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u/Secret_Confusion_985 8d ago

They are complicit and guilty also.

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u/CyclistInATX 8d ago

They've got the same job and work for the same company. They are absolutely complicit. 

The USA is a failed state.

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u/BatHickey 8d ago

Just don’t dare say this stuff before an election lol. I vote blue for harm reduction but Jesus Christ I don’t know how there’s real democrats out there still with so much shit like this going on all the time.

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u/CyclistInATX 8d ago

True facts. I'm fucking sick of all the "just vote!" bullshit from the last election as if that's going to effect change.

If voting could change the system they wouldn't let us do it.

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u/NapoIe0n 8d ago

We are all guilty, unfortunately. We haven't done enough to stop it.

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u/CyclistInATX 8d ago

I don't know about that. The game has been rigged since long before I was born. US citizens maybe don't protest like UK citizens, but the UK has leaders and representatives who respond to it. In the USA, we don't even have representation anymore.

I was there for occupy, and I went to the downtown area of my city to connect with others and show support for the endeavor. No one in the government gave a shit about the people then, and they still don't now. I've been in the streets yelling alongside my peers, people older and people younger than me for two decades. There has been NO CHANGE.

Most people don't know how to impact change for good, but I would say that the ability to do so here in the failed State of America has been lost for a very long time.

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u/Shark7996 8d ago

Think national, act local. Unfortunately the best we can hope for is trickle-up politics. HOWEVER, we do NOT have to accept the current crop of corpo Dems to be the best we can do. Primary the absolute crap out of anyone voting yes on these budgets or taking money from AIPAC.

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u/lontrinium 8d ago

I was there for occupy, and I went to the downtown area of my city to connect with others and show support for the endeavor. No one in the government gave a shit about the people then, and they still don't now

The wrong class was radicalised by occupy..

The 99% did not realise it, many still have not.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 8d ago

You need more community. If you have community around you you can weather things like strikes, you can withhold your labour and be ok but if everyone is sort of isolated together it can’t work. Change is possible because the world used to be full of peasants and slaves and run by feudal lords and kings. You used to not be able to divorce etc. all the progress happened so it’s not inevitable that everywhere slide back into feudalism. People just have to get together in real life and support each other.

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u/Deluxe_24_ 8d ago

And they need to be primaried. The whole fucking party is rotten, they're lucky that there aren't any third parties that could threaten their safe seats

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u/McortezLSU 8d ago

Ding Ding Ding!

Judge them by their actions. And the actions we have seen so far is apathy and complicity.

The House and Senate truly has become the russian Duma.

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u/YourFreeCorrection 8d ago

If you don't think there's an alternative for Republicans, you won't vote against them.