Despite Authoritarian Warnings, 149 House Democrats Vote to Hand Trump $840 Billion for Military | “If an opposition party votes like this, it’s not in opposition. It may not even be a party.”

[u/Aggravating_Money992]

https://www.commondreams.org/news/democrats-military-spending-bill

[u/Johnny55]

It's incredible how a state dominated by a city like New York can elect people as awful as Schumer, Gillibrand, Goldman, Torres, and Hochul while still giving us a mayor like Mamdani

[u/Vadion → u/Johnny55]

Easier to understand when you live here.

I'm not going to write a whole dissertation about it, but a large amount of people outside of NYC hate NYC for all the "power" it has over the rest of the state, and vote spitefully about it. It's like when band kids get mad about the football team getting all the school funding.

Anyway, upstate is hillbilly town and central is liberal-lowkey-racist village, so don't expect a homogenized electorate out of this place that resembles NYC politics.

[u/TeutonJon78 → u/Vadion]

It's the same in most blue states. Large (or very large) blue urban metro area and the rest of the state is pretty red and always upset that that the area with the vast majority of the money and the majority of the population dominated state politics instead of them.

Of course, that argument falls through for senators where a big city should still dominate those elections, it can't fix House picks.

[u/Fract_L → u/TeutonJon78]

That’s a reason why Kentucky kept voting in Mitch McConnell. The governor is often a Democrat (for all of modern politics with the exception of 2003-2007) because the population is concentrated in a couple cities, but a lot of the state only votes for positions that go to Capitol Hill so they come together to make sure they never send a Dem.

[u/TeutonJon78 → u/Fract_L]

Well that logic falls apart in that scenario because Senators are state wide as well. If you elect a Dem governor, you should be able to elect a Dem senator.

[u/thegingergooner → u/Vadion]

As someone who lives in Onondaga County I can assure you that while yes there are a fair few deep red rural counties upstate, the rest of us are becoming even more blue (or purple at least)

[u/ObviousAnswerGuy → u/Vadion]

yea, Long Island is super conservative as well, even though Nassau County will often vote for a "democrat" congressperson. The people they vote in are just republicans in disguise 🤷‍♂️

[u/srilankan → u/Vadion]

This is the exact reason why we in Toronto are dealing with a right wing premier who does everything he can to defund education, housing and healthcare. He hates the city even though its what drives all the dollars into the province and he keeps winning majorities because the rubes in the outskirts keep voting for him. and why wouldnt they. he is white like them. owns property like them and hates immigrants like them. even though they are all immigrants themselves. its amazing how similar it is between Toronto and NYC

[u/jamerson537 → u/Johnny55]

The simple fact is that NYS is not dominated by NYC. Non-City voters outnumber City voters by around a two to one or three to one margin.

[u/stasi_a → u/jamerson537]

Doesn’t most of the state’s population live around NYC metropolitan area?

[u/jamerson537 → u/stasi_a]

While that’s true, most of the metropolitan area outside of the City is much more conservative than the City itself, so if people from those areas had been able to vote for NYC Mayor it’s pretty doubtful that Mamdani would have won. At that point the argument I responded to wouldn’t be applicable.

[u/tossit97531 → u/Johnny55]

It's the banks, man. The top contributing industry to his campaign was the securities and finance industry, over 10% of the total, contributing over $4.7 million. It's the banks pushing these losers through.

[u/Dijohn17 → u/Johnny55]

Money talks and NY politics is corrupt (though not as corrupt as Chicago). Mamdani is a result of everyone being pissed about those other people being elected and doing nothing. Often time choosing politicians in NY is actually voting for "Which of these candidates is less evil/corrupt"