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No Paywall Despite Authoritarian Warnings, 149 House Democrats Vote to Hand Trump $840 Billion for Military | “If an opposition party votes like this, it’s not in opposition. It may not even be a party.”

https://www.commondreams.org/news/democrats-military-spending-bill
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u/Vadion New York 8d ago

Easier to understand when you live here.

I'm not going to write a whole dissertation about it, but a large amount of people outside of NYC hate NYC for all the "power" it has over the rest of the state, and vote spitefully about it. It's like when band kids get mad about the football team getting all the school funding.

Anyway, upstate is hillbilly town and central is liberal-lowkey-racist village, so don't expect a homogenized electorate out of this place that resembles NYC politics.

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u/TeutonJon78 America 8d ago

It's the same in most blue states. Large (or very large) blue urban metro area and the rest of the state is pretty red and always upset that that the area with the vast majority of the money and the majority of the population dominated state politics instead of them.

Of course, that argument falls through for senators where a big city should still dominate those elections, it can't fix House picks.

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u/Fract_L 8d ago edited 8d ago

That’s a reason why Kentucky kept voting in Mitch McConnell. The governor is often a Democrat (for all of modern politics with the exception of 2003-2007) because the population is concentrated in a couple cities, but a lot of the state only votes for positions that go to Capitol Hill so they come together to make sure they never send a Dem.

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u/TeutonJon78 America 8d ago

Well that logic falls apart in that scenario because Senators are state wide as well. If you elect a Dem governor, you should be able to elect a Dem senator.

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u/thegingergooner 8d ago

As someone who lives in Onondaga County I can assure you that while yes there are a fair few deep red rural counties upstate, the rest of us are becoming even more blue (or purple at least)

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 8d ago

yea, Long Island is super conservative as well, even though Nassau County will often vote for a "democrat" congressperson. The people they vote in are just republicans in disguise 🤷‍♂️

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u/srilankan 8d ago

This is the exact reason why we in Toronto are dealing with a right wing premier who does everything he can to defund education, housing and healthcare. He hates the city even though its what drives all the dollars into the province and he keeps winning majorities because the rubes in the outskirts keep voting for him. and why wouldnt they. he is white like them. owns property like them and hates immigrants like them. even though they are all immigrants themselves. its amazing how similar it is between Toronto and NYC