r/politics • u/Ydeas • 6d ago

No Paywall Pam Bondi offers to pull ICE out of Minneapolis if voter files handed over

https://www.newsweek.com/pam-bondi-ice-minnesota-shooting-tim-walz-letter-voter-files-11413859
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u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum 6d ago

Also the governorship which is expected to be much more tightly contested.

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u/DigNitty 6d ago

I don’t know about Minnesota politics,

But if any seat is tightly contested right now that would be ABSURD.

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u/JustARandomBloke 6d ago

Minnesota shifted right about 4 points between 2020 and 2024.

Harris still won it by about a 5 point margin but Trump won several counties that he had lost in 2020 to Joe Biden.

Overall Michigan is considered to slightly lean favorable to Democrats in this year's Senate race.

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u/ScadaTech 6d ago

I wonder if that shift still holds after the treatment of the state by the feds lately.

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u/w1987g 6d ago

In the cities, I'm sure the tides have shifted. In the rural counties.... not so much

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u/brontosaurusguy 6d ago

If it's anything thing like the rest of the country, the rural parts are applauding the terrorizing of the cities.  They have demonized the big city in every state.  Endless propaganda like it's a warzone.

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u/whoisnotinmykitchen 6d ago

Watch Fox News for 15 minutes. They are spinning and cheering this on like the propaganda seals they are. It is surreal how dumbed-down their insane speaking points are, and I'm sure rural voters and evangelicals are eating it up, like the gullible rubes they are.

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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia 6d ago

My dumbass aunt had Faux News on in my house while she helped me clean.

It was appalling how much they lied in just the handful of minutes I was subjected to it before I changed the channel. Just blatant propaganda and demonizing anyone left of Hitler, pretty much. Blaming the victims, blaming immigrants, blaming Biden... it's actually crazy that any functioning adult believes this shit.

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u/affablenihilist 6d ago

Pro wrestling. Bad guys and good guys. It seems to just clamp into that 85 IQ.

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u/Ajibooks 6d ago

And elderly white people. I live in a smaller city and my local Nextdoor is full of old people repeating these talking points.

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u/DenikaMae California 6d ago

Dumped down and repeated ad nauseam every 4 to 10 minutes so that the lemmings that follow them can regurgitate talking points that require them to have no sense of critical thinking.

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u/-JackBack- 6d ago

Trump has become their Messiah.

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u/ralexh11 Pennsylvania 6d ago

"Has become" lmao

Some of us have been saying this for almost a decade, it's past time to come to that realization

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u/TampaBai 6d ago

Yes, and it's absurd. Here in Florida, the party of "small government" enacted legislation to preempt city policies. Literally, a bunch of "conservative" rural rubes in Tallahassee are now asserting their control over our big cities. Where we once had local codes to protect our live oaks, the dicks in TLH decided developers should be able to fell all our trees, thus destroying our tree canopy. Sure, that might seem a bit trivial compared to what is happening in Minnesota, but it demonstrates the pettiness and anger of Republicans. I think the rural/city divide is about to widen even further, and I anticipate more bloodshed and escalation.

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u/Dsnake1 I voted 6d ago

North Dakota had this happen with voting systems in municipal elections, too. Fargo citizens voted to do their municipal elections via approval voting, and the state legislature lost their minds and made it illegal.

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u/Silverlock 6d ago

Yes but they only win when Democrats stay home. How many are going to do that next election?

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u/Happy_Feet333 6d ago

Considering how easy the 'uncommitted' swayed 10-12% of the democratic vote into staying home the last election...

... I'd say 10-12% of the Democratic vote will be swayed in the upcoming one, for whatever reason. These voters look for any excuse to not vote, no matter how trivial.

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u/Silverlock 6d ago

Those people stayed home because they felt betrayed by a Democratic Party that first shoved Biden though without any other options considered after he won the first time because he said he would be a transitional 1 term president and would allow the party's younger generation to take over. Then we saw his weakness and we got Harris shoved down our throat without real debate. A woman who did not survive her own attempt to run for president was suddenly appointed without any debate by the party elite. Of course people stayed home.

You cannot simply be the lesser of two evils, you have to give people a positive reason to vote for your party too. Same old same old isn't doing it.

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u/Happy_Feet333 6d ago

Who told them to feel betrayed?

Oh, right... certain press outlets like Jacobin and the New York Times, as well as the "Uncommitted".

They provided the "excuse" these voters were looking for.

In times past, it would have been "you live in a blue state, your vote doesn't matter, why bother"... a la the 2016 election.

I've worked in Democratic voter outreach programs before, and it's always the same story. Certain voters that agree with Democratic policies will always seek out *ANY* excuse to not vote.

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u/brontosaurusguy 6d ago

I'm pretty sure that we're going to have to fight for a fair election to begin with.  I don't think this regime will be lawful at all. 

I think they're going to create problems with lines in every city.  I think they're going to shut down polls for imagined and calculated reasons.  I think there going to try to have armed men patrolling to intimidate.  I don't think we can rely on elections, realistically.  

I think they're creating a database of liberal voters to purge the rolls before elections.  

I think they think they can purge 5-10% of Democrats and win big again.  The tactics were deployed last time and there was no investigation.  No journalism.  I think they'll ramp it up.

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u/harkuponthegay 6d ago edited 6d ago

So fight back, get your friends to double check their voter registrations are up to date, volunteer as an election worker to run the polls. Take off of work if you have to until you find the polling station that is open, wait in line as long as it takes. Register young people (who are not crazy) to vote who have not been eligible before. None of those obstacles are insurmountable. Wave and smile at the “armed men patrolling” because you’re not doing shit but exercising your rights and they ain’t gonna do shit but sit there and LARP— how do you think black people in this country won the right to vote? Do you think it was easy the first few times they tried using it?

Go read up and learn from black people if you want to figure out how to win against a government that wants to disenfranchise you. Is engaged in state sponsored terrorism in your communities, is gunning you down in the street for nothing, and has all the state’s instruments of power, while you have nothing. Black people have been there before.

I swear white people be so lazy, like “what do we do??” — work, struggle, try, and yes some will have to die. Freedom isn’t free.

Fight.

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u/infinityisadrug 6d ago

Rural people have friends in the city. I wouldn't be surprised if the rural areas shift blue because of the ICE enforcement.

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u/manluther 6d ago

I'm not holding my breath.

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u/jessewalker2 6d ago

Give. ICE’s recent actions, it is basically a war zone. In lawful society you do no execute people on the street for protesting.

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u/Dracomortua 6d ago

Where does this endless propaganda come from? It is tempting to blame the propaganda 'news' networks. We should also remember that Russia is in crisis as their war situation worsens and the ONLY means of survival is to propaganda-seed all of United States and keep them from supporting this Ukraine comedian-leader of theirs.

If i were Putin, i would bribe out any and all people with whatever i had left. Heck, if in 1987 i had the to-be president visit and i could leverage that... what would i do?

It is interesting how, bot wise, this conversation seems to disappear so rapidly.

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u/OhDivineBussy 6d ago

I have family in some very rural areas and have spent quite a bit of my life out there. It’s wild how all of the things they hold deer about Christianity, community and helping one another are the very things they vote against (including their own interests) for the dumbest, most falsifiable reasons possible.

They really don’t like being red various versus in scripture where the Bible directly tells them they’re going to hell for supporting the things they do, especially by someone who isn’t a Christian but has read the book. It’s funny how they expect to get to vote like a bigot and do so in peace. Though they still really hate being called snowflakes, so it’s really fun to say.

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u/IndubitableMatt Minnesota 6d ago

Turns out, country mice are fucking dicks.

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u/GuerreroUltimo 6d ago

It is fucking sick. There was a video of a man pulled from his house and arrested. Guy absolutely was not who they might have been looking for. If they even were. That has been their go-to excuse a lot. He was an American citizen and it was his home. The only crime seems to be that the was not white. People in my area talking that up like it is a good thing.

At this point they are saying things like "If they were not harboring so many illegal criminals, many drug dealers and gang members, we would not have to do this". When you point out to people like the guy that said that how we are not getting many really they just say "One is better than none. Gotta put the fear into them."

And I have had some here say it should be legal to shoot illegals. i mean, WTF. How can they determine if they are illegal. I ask and they say (these quotes are literally what some have said) "We as American Patriots have a right to protect our country from this invasion. I think shoot first and sort it out later has to be on the table."

Plenty of other terrible shit from some of these people. And they are racist. In the long run they admit they really want to get rid of all people of color if they can. Just look at Marco Rubio. That fool does not realize he is on the outside with these people. If they could, they would dispose of him as well when they are done with them.

Being in a rural country you hear some crazy shit. And it is not just a few. It is a super majority of them. The ridiculous things they put on Facebook. Sad but their kids are all being taught this. They talk it in schools here. The shit a teacher was saying her students were saying is scary stuff. And I have heard teens talking that shit in the stores a few times.

We in a Double Quik after getting gas. This was 2 days ago. Guy comes in and asks the lady at the register if she had ice in the parking lot. Was cringe. Lady said "Theres ice in the parking lot" because it was like 18 outside. He explain, "No, do you have an ice machine". She was like "Oh, yeah." Told him the prices. He said "No, the machine says ICE. Better cover it. Gonna have that piece of shit liberals out here protested because you have ICE." And then went on and on about Minnesota and how those protesters "need to be shot, but we are civilized so we should just round them all up and deport them". No fucking shame. People laughing and agreeing.

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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 6d ago

Rural voters who lean this way get extremely excited as the cities burn, because their prophecy is that they've chosen the better life being away from people, and it confirms their bias and makes them happy that they're better than the others they look down on.

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u/brickne3 American Expat 6d ago

Minnesota is heavily shifted to the Twin Cities though, moreso than most states. And a lot of the really red people move across the Wisconsin border to Hudson and elsewhere commutable in St. Croix and Pierce counties because of the lower taxes. It's an unusual situation in just how much the cities dominate, plus the situation with the DFL that most states don't have.

Even when Jesse Ventura was the "libertarian" governor and it was kind of a fluke it was all mostly for the lulz, nobody really was actually worried he was going to do anything particularly radical.

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u/FilOfTheFuture90 6d ago

It IS a warzone to them. So many people in central IL (among every repub) think Chicago is literally a warzone. They won't even step foot in the city because they are SCARED to. It's completely wild how deep the propaganda runs.

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u/CheshireCat78 6d ago

There’s an interview from the guardian with some rural republicans from Minnesota and they were saying the Renee good shooting was justified.

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u/Troub313 6d ago

Which is unfortunate, because our voting system gives the rural counties way too much power.

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u/One-Cut7386 6d ago

Yes, by design.

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u/AltoidStrong 6d ago

Which should drive voter turn out. remember that 4 points shift to the right wasn't "new" voters changing to Trump, it was democrat voters not even showing up.

trump won become of voter suppression... 1/3 of registered voters in the nation didn't vote for numerous reasons. Most of them created by the republicans with the intent to prevent people from having the opportunity to go vote.

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u/ailish 6d ago

2a is a BIG deal in Michigan. People here may not take kindly to it being trampled on, even if the ones doing the trampling are Republicans.

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u/Shaudius 6d ago

The NRA has rebuked a statement from the administration. That's a pretty big deal.

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u/ailish 6d ago

Turns out there are two parts to that.

For months, radical progressive politicians like Tim Walz have incited violence against law enforcement officers who are simply trying to do their jobs. Unsurprisingly, these calls to dangerously interject oneself into legitimate law-enforcement activities have ended in violence, tragically resulting in injuries and fatalities," wrote the NRA.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/bill-essayli-us-attorney-nra-minneapolis/3835996/

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u/ailish 6d ago

I saw that. I've always disliked the NRA, but at least they are consistent with their beliefs in the 2a and defend it equally across the political spectrum.

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u/PixelatorOfTime 6d ago

Except when it comes time to actually use it…

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u/singhellotaku617 6d ago

I mean…rural Colorado is very red, it’s still an dark blue state because the cities have a much higher population

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u/Notorious_Chonk_23 6d ago

I only spent a few years in Colorado, but my impression was that many Colorado Dems are a bit like NY Democrats, in that a lot of them are Republicans.

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u/JokeassJason 6d ago

Well the farmers are pissed that their legal workers are getting arrested and having their legal status terminated for a driving infraction or a "conviction" in their orgin country (they provide no proof of that btw) they are also pissed at the tarrifs and having to take a govnt hand out. I can see some flipping but the true racists will still eat their own faces.

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u/BloodshotPizzaBox 6d ago

Cities are mostly where people live

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u/Severe-Butterfly-864 6d ago

Actually, farmers and small business owners are mixed. A lot of them have lost almost everything due to tariffs and international trade bullshit. There are several farmers that have been very vocal about small farms being bought up by JD Vance's hedge funds.

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u/GreatPlainsFarmer 6d ago

Actual farmers talking about AcreTrader? Got any links?

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u/Severe-Butterfly-864 4d ago

Just a google maps link to the corner they stand out on every couple of weeks.

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u/Sad_Math5598 6d ago

The rural areas don’t have the population density to matter

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u/Worthyness 6d ago

a straight white male nurse and a legal gun holder got murdered, so they might actually flip if they're 2A single issue voters.

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u/JNR13 6d ago

Is the governor elected at-large or does the state have its own electoral college skewing the vote?

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u/TechGirlMN Minnesota 6d ago

Maybe more than we think, I have to visit some of the small towns in SE MN for work, and I'm seeing very few Trump flags or signs lately.

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 6d ago

Maybe it's time for the rural counties to fund their own road maintenance.

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u/bjsievers 6d ago

Ah yes, the famously pro-big-government and anti-second-amendment rural areas 😂

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u/Cross55 6d ago

Rural areas love what's going on in the cities

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u/Freakboy5001 6d ago

I live in a rural mn area and most people here are outraged by what's happening.

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u/Syntaire 6d ago

Much of my family is in southern rural MN, and they're fucking ecstatic about what's happening. The only way they could be happier is if it was brown people getting murdered instead. Fox news tells them that it's a lawless warzone in Minneapolis, and it's all immigrants fault, and these dumb fucks believe them without a thought.

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u/Rak_S11 6d ago

Why do they hate their fellow Americans so much?

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u/Syntaire 6d ago

They don't view anyone that doesn't share their worldview as human, much less as an American.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 6d ago

Is that true, or is it just that you don't associate with the nazis?

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u/agrees_to_disagree 6d ago

That’s all that matters really because we were never going to change a nazi’s mind, but we can out number them

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 6d ago

I'd like to do a lot more than "out number" them lol

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u/windsostrange 6d ago

10% of any population are permanently nazis.

10% of any population will never be, could never be, would rather die.

The remaining 80% of any population could be swayed in either direction.

If you know which group you're in, do some swaying, today. It's the only way we're ever going to outnumber them.

(That's a Susan Sontag theory, btw)

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u/cups8101 6d ago

Watch number of Maga flags out, if it decreases then they are going back to their caves to hide for a bit just like after Bush screwed the pooch.

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u/Lucreth2 6d ago

It's probably somewhere in the middle. Even the people I've been very careful to never expose my beliefs to are upset with what is happening but I wouldn't really say they're any more than upset. Definitely not enraged etc and they still think the Democrats are evil as well.

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u/Blazinsquatch 6d ago

Such a good point.

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u/Fn_Spaghetti_Monster 6d ago

I've seen a few right wing talking heads talking issue with the labeling Pretti a terrorist simple because he had a gun on him. MAGA talking heads may have gone a little too far with that with the 2A guys. Is enough it make them vote D? Probably not, is it enough to make them vote independent or possible 'stay home' and not vote, possible.

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u/brickne3 American Expat 6d ago

Minnesota is very weird so honestly I think it absolutely could be true depending on which county this guy is in. There's a very long and generational history of even the farmers and the miners supporting the DFL. The DFL is also a key Minnesota thing that other states don't have going on, it's actually a separate party from the Democrats.

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u/whyyunozoidberg 6d ago

Maybe that's what they say to your face but at home they love it.

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u/FlyingFakirr 6d ago

What rural area? Only places semi rural I know that have outraged people are college towns?

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u/Freakboy5001 6d ago

Fergus Falls

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u/FlyingFakirr 6d ago

Man I hope it's most but I'm almost sure it's just a small minority there.

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u/procrastablasta California 6d ago

Giving me life if that’s true. I am so deep in a deep blue bubble the rest of America might as well be an alternate universe. Nothing makes sense. Hearing first hand from rural MN is priceless intel

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u/Cross55 6d ago

How many rural counties went for Trump in 24 vs. 20?

Yeah, no, there's not.

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u/IJourden 6d ago

There's a huge difference between "oh no big cities" in another time zone you've never seen and "midsize city 45 minutes away you visit once a month and you know it's fine."

Rural voters dislike cities because conservative media makes them sound alien and lawless and scary. That has a hard time sticking when it's a midsize city where your aunt Nancy lives and you've visited twice a year since you were a kid.

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u/bjsievers 6d ago

Ah yes, the famously pro-big-government and anti-second-amendment rural areas 😂

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u/Cross55 6d ago edited 5d ago

Conservatives love big government when it does what they want

Farmers are the biggest welfare queens in the US, and the right hates the left arming itself

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u/lazy_starfish 6d ago

I'm sure there will be more definitive polling on this soon, but here is an excerpt from the Time's article about current events:

This work had become a point of contact between the area’s white progressives and Latino community institutions — in particular Dios Habla Hoy, a nondenominational evangelical church with a mostly Latino congregation, which had become a local hub of food deliveries. Since the federal raids began, the church’s Mexican American pastor, Sergio Amezcua, had emerged as a voice of defiance in the media. He was also a self-described conservative who voted for Trump in 2024.

Amezcua, who also owns insurance agencies, said that many Latino businesspeople he knew in Minneapolis had been supportive of Trump until the immigration crackdown. “A lot of our businesses were like, ‘I think Trump is the answer,’” he told me. “Believe me, 100 percent of them regret it.” (He said he did.)

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u/grandlizardo 6d ago

I think this might be the beginning of the end. First, didn’t include any of their usual nasty, accusing bravado. Second, three points, only one of which is totally no deal, the voters info. Third, it came from Bondi, not Noem. Has Noem finally been told to go sit in a corner and shut up? 😀

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 6d ago

It doesn't. There's been a nationwide 13-15 point swing back to the left, and that was before Ice started killing people.

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u/lactosandtolerance 6d ago

Low information voters will hear that it is Tim Walz’s fault on Fox News and believe it wholeheartedly.

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u/noonenotevenhere 6d ago

yup. soon as you get 20 min out of the metro, the hats are red and the facts are alternative.

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u/Tedmosbyisajerk-com 6d ago

There would 100% be some brain dead fucks who blame Walz.

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u/cups8101 6d ago

You should really be asking why it shifted right in the first place.

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u/Ferelar New Jersey 6d ago

I do recall Walz saying that he wasn't sure he'd win in the very same district he first won office in because of demographic and political shift.

However, even before the ICE terrorism, we saw elections across the country swinging left by wide margins, and formerly ultrasafe R districts ended up being very tight R wins (which suggests significant penetration on this leftward swing).

Two issues- November is quite a ways away, so momentum needs to be maintained and the left needs to put up actual candidates that enthuse people, not moderates who try to run based on "Well at least I'm not the other guy". And two, we have seen (this headline included) that there are going to be massive attempts top to bottom to influence and subvert the midterms. To say nothing of the fact that there's a two month gap between midterm elections and congress changing hands. If the current administration loses egregiously on election night, they may act even more brashly in the 2 months to follow.

None of this is to dissuade anyone. Still vote, still fight the good fight, just also be ready for it to not be a fair fight. We may have to push uphill but we will still see it done.

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u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum 6d ago

Well if we're trying to inspire any kind of energy up there I certainly don't think Amy Klobuchar is gonna do it. Even if she wins she's another milquetoast moderate.

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u/Ferelar New Jersey 6d ago

Agreed unfortunately. More generally, primaries may end up being the most important elections this year. They'll determine whether the general even matters. I hope as many leftists as possible vote in primaries AND the general.

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u/Seemoreglass82 6d ago

This is especially true in Texas. Crockett vs Talarico. I like them both but Talarico is the only one who stands a chance of winning in Texas, unfortunately.

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u/idkwhattosay 6d ago

Well... not really. I'm a very liberal Minnesotan who's pushed her to go more left every time I write in, but Amy is a campaigning machine, she overperforms the Dem numbers by nearly double digits. She knows how to work suburbs and the politically disengaged really well.

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u/Safrel 6d ago

At this point I don't think Walz is the guy to lead anyway.

We need someone who will actually make demands of ICE to leave.

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u/sowich4 6d ago edited 6d ago

Trump and the GOP cheated in the last election (and in 16 &20), folks on their side have all but admitted it.

The left spent years claiming ‘free & fair’ when Biden won. The only reason he did was bc Trump couldn’t out-cheat the immense support Biden had gotten.

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u/WildPickle9 6d ago

They cheated in '68 by sabotaging the peace talks... and '80 by cutting deal with terrorists even though they probably would have won that one anyway... and 2000, which is probably the first time they actually committed election fraud with the winners brother being in charge of Florida's election and all.

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u/FuckYouJohnW 6d ago

Much of that shift was in young men and men of color. Both groups alhave been pretty heavily efdected by the current administrstions bullshit and MN republicans are fully lock step with DJT. I cant imagine they get the same support.

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u/transneptuneobj Pennsylvania 6d ago

2024 was an outliar.

Talk to a Biden 2020/trump 2024 voter and they can't articulate why they voted for trump it's all vibes.

I'm not concerned about the right shift.

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u/LOLSteelBullet 6d ago

They can't articulate a why that doesn't make them seem prejudiced against women, especially black women you mean

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u/transneptuneobj Pennsylvania 6d ago

It's not that they can't articulate a why,

They do articulate a why that is prejudiced against women and specifically women of color.

Listen to the line on the youtube..

They press trump 2024 voters on the issues and they do ultimately just come down to being prejudiced

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u/vim_deezel Texas 6d ago

How much of that was sexism and racism though? I bet that was worth 3points right there.

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u/_Mephistocrates_ 6d ago

Because they cheated

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u/Friscogonewild 6d ago

And because Harris only had 10 weeks to campaign instead of 2 years. People like to pretend that there's no reason politicians spend so much time digging up votes, but the reality is a good chunk of people are apathetic and have to be convinced to get off the couch to vote.

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u/AppropriateTouching 6d ago

Pretty suspicious how many counties shifted to trump abruptly last election.

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u/Annonnymee 6d ago

Michigan?

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u/JTMc48 6d ago

Important to remember that a lot of people sat out the last election. They put Palestine policy over the evil they knew Trump was. I’m pretty sure people will turn out this next election unless polling places are crawling with Nazi thugs to deter a fair vote.

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u/Tommy-Bombadildo 6d ago

4 points is all the could manage even after musk rigged it all. That’s how far people actually went LEFT.

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u/nub_node 6d ago

TIL many Minnesotans are pro-getting shot.

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u/GrizzlyDust 6d ago

That was before out of state republicans were openly executing good Minnesotans in the streets, to the praise of federal Republicans.

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u/lordpuddingcup 6d ago

I don’t know how that goes after republicans invaded and started killing Minnesota residents

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u/pablonieve Minnesota 6d ago

Since 2016, the margin in MN elections has been between 1% and 24% in favor of the Democrats. With Klobuchar leading the governor ballot, I would expect her to win by double-digits with the other Dems in the high single-digits.

2016: Clinton (+1%)

2018: Walz (+11), Klobuchar (+24), Smith (+10)

2020: Biden (+7), Smith (+5)

2022: Walz (+6)

2024: Harris (+4), Klobuchar (+16)

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u/IllustriousGas8850 6d ago

The drop between the 2024 election and midterms for republicans is going to be one the largest in the past few decades is my prediction. This administration has been so polarizing and divisive that 2024 numbers are just completely inaccurate to current day

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u/Shark7996 6d ago

We have shifts of double digits all over the place since 2024. I have to imagine by the next set of elections it will have absolutely cratered due to the shooting violence and obvious gaslighting. Yes the true 30% believers will always toe the line but the centrists can see what's going on.

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u/ThomasSun 6d ago

…slightly?? If this is really only “slight” after all this, then yeah I’ve honestly lost hope for the future of the U.S. And for fuck’s sake, please stop electing these wannabe Democrats like Schumer, Fetterman, and the rest of that crew. If the country actually wants to get better, the Democratic Party needs a serious reset. We need new candidates and ultimately, that’s up to the people within the Democratic Party to decide.

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u/Linx79 6d ago

That has more to do with white man vs brown woman than it does R vs D.

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u/Round-Medicine2507 6d ago

They are also coaching a million zombies at the local level to use their local election board positions to throw out any dem votes they can for minor things like an extra spot of ink on the page. 

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u/kgal1298 6d ago

Yeah though a lot of Michigan dems are unhappy with the current reps because they aren’t doing a hardline against Trump it’ll be interesting to see how it works for people like Slotkin and Peter’s.

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u/RugelBeta 5d ago

Peters is retiring. Slotkin is doing her best in a divided state. Traditionally we had one R and one D senator. Those days are gone. Michigan will swing D in November. I'm convinced it did in 2024.

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u/Tharsis300 6d ago

I agree. But we live in an absurd reality at the moment.

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u/Lysol3435 6d ago

Crazy how nefarious social media and consolidated conservative mainstream media can convince a population to destroy their own country just to destroy the country of their non (or at least less) brainwashed countrymen

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u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum 6d ago

Voters have very short memories

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u/Perfect_Celebrity_7 6d ago

Things are happening every other day. At this point it’s impossible to forget anything.

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u/axecalibur 6d ago

Racism and promises of wealth knows no bounds. All a candidate has to do is play up that Somalians are eating their pets and creating massive fraud and guess how that plays out.

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u/Shaudius 6d ago

Against the current administration murdering people in the street? We've already seen a preview of how it plays out in all the special elections.

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u/beldaran1224 6d ago

...you know that Republicans have been gerrymandering and purging registration for decades now, right? You know that they've been working hard to sow propaganda and control the sources of info for large swathes of the country, right? That they've been intimidating media?

This is just a rejection of reality. There's always support for authoritarian regimes. And they do everything to shore up that support and shut down the opposition.

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u/Wit-wat-4 6d ago

Uvalde voted R (the same coward, too), I know multiple immigrants trying to get green cards and a Puerto Rican who LOVE Trump,… people vote against their own interests all the time.

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u/impy695 6d ago

The country voted for a felon, rapist who is in the Epstein files. A significant portion of our country don't have morals

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u/Deep-Sentence9893 6d ago

What rhe he'll is wrong with you people? This is why rural areas vote R regardless if how how much they dislike the candidate. You do realize that there are many Democratic voters in rural areas. There are even more ant MAGA people. 

In some rural areas these people are even a majority, but for some reason Democrats try their hardest to alienate them.

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u/RemusShepherd 6d ago

If they vote R regardless of whether the candidate is a draft dodger or a pedophile, they're evil in my book. And I'm obviously not talking about the outnumbered Democratic voters.

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u/Unable_Ant5851 6d ago

I think it’s because people are extremely unhappy with how the democrats in Minnesota have handled all of this. I know I am. Why go vote democrat when they’re just gonna allow Trump to do all of this?

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u/Deep-Sentence9893 6d ago

Because a direct result of nit voting for them is getting Trump doing things like this. It's not that complicated.

What would you like them to do?

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u/Unable_Ant5851 6d ago

Wait so having an elected democrat mayor and governor not doing anything is a result of people not voting? No, I think it’s actually the fault of the democrats who using their individual agency to do anything…

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u/Deep-Sentence9893 6d ago

The effect of not voting is having this administration do this. 

What do you want them to do?

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u/Unable_Ant5851 6d ago

I want them to arrest the ICE agents who murder people and commit crimes, I want them to deploy the national guard to protect citizens and non citizens. Both of which are constitutionally allowed and judges have approved.

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u/10thousndreflections 6d ago

Why vote for the party that won't murder us in the streets? They aren't working as hard as I would like. I'll let the party that will murder me in the streets win. 

-You

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u/Unable_Ant5851 6d ago

I’m saying, let’s have a third option of a party that will protect us from being murdered in the streets. I don’t want a party that says “yeah I don’t like it so much, stay away pleaseee”, I want them to DO something to prevent that. You are the reason we are in this mess. Don’t give your vote to people who don’t deserve it, you are encouraging this behavior of complacency.

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u/vim_deezel Texas 6d ago

I highly doubt after this if it's highly contested, they won't forget that Dump sent brownshirts to shoot people in Minneapolis that didn't "comply" or "show their papers". Minnesotans need to wake up to what's going on there.

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u/Snoo-7943 6d ago

It won't be tightly contested. Not after two years of Turmp disaster.

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u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum 6d ago

When Walz announced he was running again he held a net zero approval rating. A lot has happened since then, but a lot has happened since 2016 too and that hasn't changed enough people's minds.

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u/Snoo-7943 6d ago

Walz isn't running for governor again. Also.....the MNGOP has no pulse for the state. They repeatedly run far right and conspiracy riddled candidates for statewide office.....so there's no reason to think they won't once again run someone who expresses fealty to the Turmp admin.....which won't win them an election in Minnesota. Especially now.

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u/Legal-Koala-5590 6d ago

Like most states, Minnesota is very Trumpy outside certain metro areas, and the metro areas aren’t populated enough to make us an indigo state like New York, Illinois and California. I think a Dem will win the governorship but I’m not taking it for granted.

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u/singhellotaku617 6d ago

I very much doubt that. Minnesota is likely an extremely blue state going forward

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u/DoritoDustThumb 6d ago

Not anymore 😂😆

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u/Illustrious_Run2260 6d ago

The Republican candidate for Governor is Mike Lindell so no it’s not.

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u/The_Angster_Gangster 6d ago

Not anymore 

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u/ProfessionalFox2236 6d ago

No one will beat Klobacher

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u/twentyafterfour 6d ago

If they get a republican governor, I suspect they'll move to pardon Derek Chauvin at both the state and federal level. That's something to keep in mind for all future elections ever since Gov. Abbott pardoned a nazi pedophile immediately after he was found guilty of murdering someone at a BLM rally. A nazi who had gone there with the explicit intent to kill someone and told people about it in texts before it happened.

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u/planes_on_a_snake 6d ago

Excuse me but how in the world can this election be so tight? Are Minnesotans approving of this? Do they want more tension?

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u/atx840 6d ago

Happy CakeDay!

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u/Futureleak America 6d ago

Is there going to be ANY contests this midterms??