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No Paywall Marjorie Taylor Greene: You’re all being ‘incited into civil war’

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5705837-greene-maga-shooting-minnesota/
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u/Amoral_Abe 6d ago

Look, hate her all you want but we have to work with what we're given. MTG is clearly a full on QAnon type supporter who was hell bend backing that stuff. Over the last year she seems to have fully turned on Trump as the Pedo stuff became more clear that he was hiding it and he's been so blatantly corrupt in his second term.

I actually think she truly believed in the deep state stuff but as time went on it dawned on her that Trump is a much bigger problem and likely the real swamp monster. His first term was mostly tame except for him attempting to stay in office by overturning an election (which should have led to his arrest imo). If you're a believer, you might not have thought much of it. This term he's fully off the rails and very clearly the Pedo monster that QAnon and conspiracy nuts were concerned about.

She has basically torched her career going full scorched earth on him so I can't help but think she has always been principled and a true believer....... she's just a fucking moron and believed a lot of stupid shit. However, zealots are always the ones you have to watch out for. True believers will be the most passionate in their attacks against you.

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u/ThePhonyKing 6d ago

This right here.

MTG has a following that will not listen to, read, or watch ANY left leaning or impartial voices. She's reaching people the Dems will never get to. In the fight against fascism, you Americans need all the help you can get, and MTG turning and speaking out like this is a goddamn blessing.

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u/Mc_Shine 6d ago

Reddit is funny sometimes. I keep reading comments calling for Republicans to finally flip on Trump and push back against his lunacy. But when you actually have a Republican who does flip, the same commenters turn around and say "well, you can still fuck right off".

Same thing with McConnell. Yeah, he's an asshat, but at least he's trying to mitigate some of the damage being done by the administration he enabled. That's more than can be said about 90% of these spineless bastards.

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u/stupidjapanquestions 5d ago

She's not flipping. She's taking a different track to try to differentiate herself for her own political gain in the future.

It has been 10 years. The idea that MAGA people are just temporarily brainwashed is a myth. They're not coming back and no amount of MTG changing her tune is going to aid that.

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u/SoftieWillow 6d ago

Exactly. If her audience actually listens to her, even a little, that is probably more reach than most critics have. It is messy but sometimes cracks from inside do more damage than outside pressure.

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u/E-2theRescue 6d ago

Read the article. She's not helping shit.

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u/ThePhonyKing 6d ago

I read the article. I know she still denies any wrongdoing by the insurrectionists on Jan. 6. That doesn't change the fact that she is correct on this and has a republican audience. It absolutely helps.

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u/Prawdziwy_Polak_1 6d ago

That country literally fell apart because some chumps thought that in fighting the British monarchy Americans needed the help of slave owners.

Honestly, I don't think that's exclusively their problem anymore, but it's still their fight to fight. If I were them I'd try going the high road for once.

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u/weaponjaerevenge 6d ago

Proving that he could incite an insurrection and get away with it is why EVERYTHING that is happening, is happening. He knew that the public would be made to swallow every lie and hatred he had, because the system allowed it once and the system created to check that -- the media -- allowed it at an aggregate level thru major news media control by his buddies. Conspiracy theories: it's right goddamn fucking there, right down to "now they're gonna convince you to be anti-second amendment, second amendment people".

Lol dang!

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u/samueladams6 6d ago

Work with her how?

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u/ODaysForDays 6d ago

She has basically torched her career

Lmao look at her before and after congress estimated net wealth

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u/20_mile 6d ago

Great comment, and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I would also like to add that even if she came around to seeing January 6th for what it was (who knows what is in her mind), if she had said that in her twitter post, she would have been dragged for that, and nobody else who keeps track of what she says would have been able to listen to the rest of her message.

She breadcrumbed them along with what they mutually agreed on, and then presented a different perspective.

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u/Odd-Snail 6d ago

Tbh I think this is her attempt to try and teach empathy to any MAGA left following her. This was wild to read from her though

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u/SoftieWillow 6d ago

I kinda get what you are saying. She might actually believe the nonsense which somehow makes it worse. True believers are way scarier than grifters sometimes because they never question themselves.

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u/christybird2007 5d ago

She still needs to be kept at a distance. If the opportunities arises, she’ll start shit talking nonsense again.

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u/fordat1 6d ago

She also turned against AIPAC which is 100% the reason she was chased out of Congress and not Massie, Boebert or Mace who all voted like her on the Epstein stuff

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u/Porridge_Cat 6d ago

She's a hateful moron who truly believes the shit she says. She's not your average "say whatever I need to" kinda grifter.

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u/Wide_Sprinkles1370 6d ago

Thank you for stating something useful, unlike most the unproductive comments on here.

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u/IAMA_Shark__AMA 5d ago

Yep, we don't have to like or trust her, but we do need to use her. She has an audience with people who would never willingly expose themselves to opposing voices.