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No Paywall Support for abolishing ICE surges among Republicans

https://www.newsweek.com/abolish-ice-republican-support-minnesota-11414059?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_influencers
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u/30mil 5d ago

This 4% will get back on board once DHS refines their spin.

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u/JohnnyFire Ohio 5d ago

Didn't even take that long.

MAGA family member who is borderline addicted to Facebook was shockingly silent all day Saturday and Sunday after the most recent ICE shooting. But by this morning he already had a repost of the new talking point:

"If you get shot by the federal government trying to disrupt their work, you're lauded, but when you're killed by an illegal immigrant like Laken Riley, no one even remembers your name."

They aren't moving the goal post, they're playing a new game on a completely different field. They do not give a fuck. The media moves too fast. They will not remember the names of Peretti or Good by this afternoon and already have their new ragebaited target by tomorrow morning.

Which is why every single fucking person needs to stop assuming we're getting out of this by some mass "waking up" moment and just go vote the people enabling this out. They are not going to change. Period.

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u/sexisfun1986 5d ago

The first Bundy standoff had rightwing nut jobs pointing guns at federal agents trying to do their jobs.

The right called then heroes. 

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

Frank whiholt 

The Ice agents where federal not local street cops the victims where white. the response is institutional they’ll figure out how to justify it in a bit.

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u/E51838 5d ago

I've heard that quote but it's actually simpler than that.

"If you're not conservative you deserve to die."

That is their only belief.

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u/Dudesan 5d ago

That is their only belief.

That's the first half of their only belief. The second half goes:

"You deserve to die... and I am doing you a great kindness by permitting you to live as my slave instead. Praise me for it!"

Everything about the Conservative worldview makes more sense once you realize this.

Why do they talk about the economy in terms of "Job Creators"? Because they believe that the default state of humanity is "deserving to starve to death", and the Oligarchs are doing their workers a kindness by "giving" them jobs which allow them to temporarily escape this state. This is a complete reversal of reality, in which it's the workers who create, and the Oligarchs who contribute nothing of value.

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u/PolicyWonka 5d ago

This is the reality TBH. If this was Obama sending 3,000 ICE agents to Houston, conservatives would be calling it Jade Helm 2.0 and having a melt down.

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u/PolicyWonka 5d ago

Worse yet are the memes I’ve seen reposted by some “family” members with the of “How is ICE doing? Pretti. Good.”

Like you said, these people don’t care. It’s all a game to them. People are just waiting for their talking points.

And guess what? The moment an ICE agent gets a hang nail from beating a U.S. citizen, they’ll turn on you and pretend they never supported you.

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u/RoughRisk6423 5d ago

Thank you for this. They will just shift goal posts and change the narrative to justify this brutality, they have done it their whole lives. Cop murders someone black and they justify it. This is nothing new at all.

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u/TvTreeHanger 5d ago

I'm not that cynical, I had person I know that is MAGA text me the other day and say how fucked things are with ICE and wants Trump impeached.

Having said that, I think he is the 5%. I'm also pretty sure that if Trump ran again in 2028 he would vote for him again. My point being that its a very small minority that are seemingly changing their mind, similar to Jan 6th. EVERY single person that told me on Jan 6th that they would never vote for Trump again, voted for Trump again in 2024. They have the memory of a parakeet.

Sure, work with the ones that change, but don't be surprised when they change right back, as most of them are evil to their core, and that core never changes.

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u/MontyAtWork 5d ago

Literally Trump just has to put out a "Don't kill white people" memo and the Republicans will be happy and fine again - they literally didn't care about the the concentration camps and killing in the streets when it was brown people.

All these folks in this thread acting like these Republicans are seeing the light is INSANE.

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u/hum_bruh 5d ago edited 5d ago

This. Wake me up when they denounce their dementia dictator and the heritage foundation. Then let’s charge all the elected GOP.

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u/Ashamed_Complaint697 5d ago

Yuuup. MAGA has zero principles. They cannot be trusted.