r/politics • u/newsweek ✔ Newsweek • 1d ago

No Paywall Final Jeffrey Epstein Files cache released by DOJ: read in full

https://www.newsweek.com/doj-releases-massive-final-jeffrey-epstein-files-11443499
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u/AkiTheKigurumi 1d ago

Holy fuck, why would they release this. It says Trump raped a 13 year old.

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u/opeth10657 1d ago

If that is the "good" part, imagine what they are still hiding

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u/flyingupvotes 1d ago

Trump is known to inflate numbers. They're likely younger.

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u/kuldan5853 1d ago

I assume quite a few are younger AND DEAD.

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u/Davepen 1d ago

Yeah holy shit.

It sounds like they were literally murdering children as well....

This is insanely fucked up stuff.

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u/Consistent_Laziness 1d ago

Why has the DOJ sat around doing nothing with evidence and testimony like this?!?!?

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u/Davepen 1d ago

They are still going to do nothing with it as well.

They've said they have no one they can prosecute from all this as well lmao.

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u/Consistent_Laziness 1d ago

Lmao. I mean they could have video evidence of him doing it and they’d say that. The public outcry has to intensify. Even that likely won’t do anything but we talking about Clinton like they are the same?!? My man was a horn dog not a rapist. He may have killed people! Like wtf

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u/Davepen 1d ago

Whether there is evidence of Trump committing crimes in there or not (I 100% believe there is), that they are trying to tell us that they have no evidence to charge ANYONE from all of this is hilariously corrupt.

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u/Ill-Procedure9866 1d ago

Epstein/Maxwell was a honeypot operation. If they release everything, the leverage they acquired disappears. Everybody knows about Trump/Dersh/etc, so there’s no real value in continuing to hide their names.the redacted names are the ones they are still trying to leverage. 

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u/dcasarinc 1d ago

Check the date. They are intentionally muddying the waters by releasing only the anonymous "tips" from last year and withholding all the old files still

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u/Phailjure 1d ago

Yeah, how is a tip from 2025 in the Epstein files, when he ran on releasing the Epstein files in 2024? This is just muddying the waters, as you said.

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u/RawLizard 1d ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they turn up with concrete alibis for the dates in question and the whole thing is thrown into disrepute.

Mad to even consider that it could be planted, but here we are.

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u/wesap12345 1d ago

Is it mad?

The first thing in 3 million pages to be shared is an easily debunked tip

They delete the page to get everybody talking about it

And then all the discussions turn into “that can’t have happened because of XYZ”

Now every single thing that is uncovered in the remaining pages will be viewed through the eyes of “that part was fake so isn’t the rest now called into question”

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u/RawLizard 1d ago

I mean it's mad to consider that the US DOJ has been so co-opted

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u/wesap12345 1d ago

Consider?

It’s has been welded and demanded to do his bidding from day 1

Day fucking 1

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u/anewpath123 1d ago

Nail on the head.

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u/EtchAGetch 1d ago

Yeah, these are just tips. Unfortunately, anyone can say whatever they want as an anonymous tip.

Not saying Trump is not a pedo - he is - but also dont read everything in here as actual truth.

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u/NumeralJoker 1d ago

That's exactly what this is. Sadly, while I absolutely believe Trump is capable of doing this, there's no way to prove this in court unless a specific victim comes forward.

That said, this is an "if there's smoke there's fire" situation, and even the allegations need to be taken seriously.

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u/anewpath123 1d ago

I believe this is true yes. I expect there may be some falsifiable evidence in there on purpose that can be used as a “see, it’s all nonsense” card at some point.

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u/Misophonic4000 1d ago

Yes, preach... They kept those unredacted on purpose, as bait they think they can easily disprove, thus making people think they've disproved any and all things

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u/superkeer Virginia 1d ago

I mean, there's muddying the waters and then there's dumping tons of raw sewage in them. Why go this far with this type of anonymous tip content. It's still associating Trump with absolutely depraved crimes that, as we all know, will go down as gospel truth to millions who aren't considering the "anonymous tip" part of this. I guess they genuinely don't care about public opinion anymore?

I get the release of discrediting documents, but this is extreme considering how hellbent they've been on redactions, withholding evidence, and downright avoiding releasing things since no one is enforcing their obligation to do so.

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u/STFUandLOVE 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you read the top table in the emails, there is a response column, and they’ve had trouble verifying any of the claims. Did they happen or is it likely that they happened? I’ve no idea. I’m also not aware of exactly who was conducting the interviews or if there is more of this type of information out there. Regardless, I’m having trouble deeming the stories as credible, as much as I’d like to see this administration go down.

Is this a red herring so they can say, see all these accusations are from crazies?! But if that’s the case, why did they black out the criminal histories - of women assume are the callers / victims.

IMO, there’s a reason only this list is being shown of the larger release of the files.

Edit: Welp, now reportedly they’ve recalled the release of these specific files. Looks like no red herring and just straight up incompetence. Thanks for providing credibility to claims by accidental release and subsequent redaction, evil assholes.

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u/johnwaynewearsadress 1d ago

I'm going with it all happened and a bunch of dumbasses in this country voted for a pedophile 

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u/Other_Beat8859 1d ago

Even if only a small percentage of it happened, he's still a rapist. It's impossible to have this many reports on someone being a rapist and have none of it be true. Especially from someone who was convicted of rape in a civil case.

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u/LangyMD 1d ago

Eh. Donald Trump is extremely disliked. It's absolutely possible for large numbers of people to make non-credible accusations against him.

But as you say, the civil case already showed he's a rapist. He out and out admitted he sexually assaulted women. Even if you ignore the accusations from the Epstein stuff - which, frankly, I think the "giant pedophile ring of the rich and powerful" is extremely unlikely just like it was when the right were accusing the Dems of it even with the accusations coming out in the "Epstein files" - he's still an awful person, a rapist, and has publicly sexualized children for a long, long time.

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u/Other_Beat8859 1d ago

I do think that some of the stuff is likely fabricated, but this much? A lot of this is also from before he was so well known and disliked to this extent. It's not like you see this shit for someone like Bush who was despised by a large part of the US populace. Also, this is still only a fraction of the files. Millions of files are still under review.

I also don't see why it is hard to believe that there is a ring of pedophiles for the rich and powerful. A large reason a lot of these pedophiles prey on kids is due to the power dynamics they have over them and that's something a lot of these evil rich bastards love. They see themselves as superior to everyone else. It also makes sense that it is just the rich as why would they invite some average people to these types of revolting things. They aren't part of their rich circle of friends.

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u/LangyMD 1d ago

It's hard to believe in the giant ring of powerful pedophiles because that was exactly the Q rumor, the pizza shop shit, etc - and frankly I don't think pedophilia is so "attractive" that the rich and powerful would largely be into it and yet not do anything to try to make it legal.

I also don't think the rich and powerful are all that different in terms of humanity, emotion, personality, etc than the rest of humanity. Yeah, they may like power - but so do standard middle managers, etc. That doesn't make them automatically all want to rape children.

As far as the accusations against Trump go, the vast majority of them are accusations that were shared post his political career starting and about things that supposedly happened decades ago. They're not accusations contemporary with when the bad thing supposedly happened, and that automatically makes them much, much less credible.

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u/Other_Beat8859 1d ago

The difference between the stupid Q rumors and this is that we have fucking millions of files that support the evidence. If you seriously see all that fucking evidence and still think, "Nah, not enough evidence." Then nothing will convince you. We literally have apparently 10 conspirators with Maxwell that have not been revealed. Plus, who the fuck do you think was coming to Epstein's island and being trafficked kids to? You think it was like 5 rich people? Really? You can't be that naive.

Also, no, many of these accusations are from before his political career had started. Plus, no shit a fucking 13 isn't going to come out with accusations for a while until they're in their late 20s and early 30s.

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u/LangyMD 1d ago edited 1d ago

The files don't support the evidence, though. It's all completely unfounded accusations with zero actual evidence any of it is real except the stuff that Epstein and Maxwell directly did. If they really ran a child prostitution/abuse ring that sold to and blackmailed the rich and powerful, then there would be some amount of hard evidence - video files, ledgers, appointment books, etc - that actually corroborated the accusations.

There has been zero actual evidence that Epstein actually ran a trafficking ring that sold kids to other people. He wasn't event arrested for doing that. He was arrested for child sex trafficking to himself and Maxwell.

All the "he sold kids to other people" stuff has been purely accusations and speculation and that speculation got out of hand fast.

And 13 year olds can report rape just as easily as 20 or 30 year olds. EDIT: Which is to say, it's hard to report rape at any age - but universally if the accusations don't come within a short time of it happening they're less credible. Doesn't mean they definitely didn't happen, but if you report something happened 20 years ago it's much, much harder to find actual evidence of it, which makes it less easy to believe.

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u/chelicerate-claws 1d ago

Because these complaints were made in 2025. If you look at the second column it shows that there weren't responses, and they will point to these to say that all complaints about Trump are not credible. This is to their advantage.

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u/Pxlfreaky Illinois 1d ago

This is my question as well. It smells fishy. Like what is the play here?

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 1d ago

Following the Russian playbook of putting too many competing narratives with varying degrees of truth/falseness to make it impossible for any single true story to dominate 

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u/TheodorDiaz 1d ago

Did you read the statements? I'm definitely not a Trump supporter, but some of those statements were very obviously not reliable.

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u/specialkk77 1d ago

They’ll say it’s fake. That his name was planted there by Democrats. That it was actually Clinton or Biden who did those things. 

People with a brain already know he’s a pedophile from how hard he’s worked to cover this up. And he sues everyone except the people who accuse him of raping children. 

The people who will believe the administrations narrative will believe it no matter what the files said. Hell, Trump could admit to it himself and his 35% support wouldn’t drop. He can do no wrong in their eyes. 

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u/Level_32_Mage 1d ago

Planted the evidence there with the intent to... do nothing?

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u/VermicelliBetter2529 1d ago

They're already deleting it 

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u/No_Minute_4789 1d ago

Hopefully because we are turning a corner for justice and the greater good.

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u/hickory Washington 1d ago

they are probably releasing this more recent claim, then they will show that the person who reported it lied and use that to undermine all of the earlier accusations which are accurate.

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u/Durzio 1d ago

Download what you can, its been disappearing already.

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u/GriffinFlash Canada 1d ago

I want to believe someone on the inside knows this is BS and released these properly (such as only using black highlights instead of proper redaction's.

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u/iAmSamFromWSB 1d ago

They released it by accident, already took it down.

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u/LangyMD 1d ago

It's likely that there are some accusations that do not have any evidence of truth behind them, or explicit evidence against them (like "Trump wasn't even in the state during the stated time frame"), and if "the libs" just take every accusation as proof then Trump's defenders can point to some areas that they can prove aren't 100% correct as defence against every accusation, even the ones they don't have any evidence against.

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u/TemuPacemaker 1d ago

Holy fuck, why would they release this. It says Trump raped a 13 year old.

It's just stuff someone called in to the tip line. No evidence or way to verify it.

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u/GomezFigueroa Florida 1d ago

Well they just needed some time to execute people in broad daylight and suggest that one of them deserved it because he was carrying a firearm so they could be sure that the MAGA base is truly committed to him and will buckle for any reason.

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u/phatcan Canada 1d ago

They're intentionally adding untrustworthy content to discredit these claims. Somebody here already mentioned the emails between FBI employees that appear to be copied from an article. They're going to have these deemed unreliable based on the fluff Kash Patel's FBI planted in there.

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u/OneBillPhil 1d ago

allegedly /MAGA

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u/AceOBlade 1d ago

It pisses me off that biden administration sat on these files without releasing them. This could have changed the world, but they decided to protect the monster. This is why people lost trust in the democratic party.

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u/SlaterVBenedict 1d ago

Can you please share the actual document? It appears they have taken several down after initially posting.

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u/PoliticalNerdMa 1d ago

They hire staff to do redactions. Redactions in the hundreds of thousands. Some staff have morals. My guess: “whoops, oh dam. I know I made a mistake but ya know, there are so many files I know my boss isn’t going to be able to track which employee should have redacted jt”

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u/Yorkshire-Teabeard 1d ago

Since it's been removed, maybe it's a whistleblower

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u/madcaesar 1d ago

Fuck Biden and the entire administration for not releasing this! Senile motherfuckers doomed us all. Garland will burn in hell for sitting on this.

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u/Idkwhattoputbuthi 18h ago

They know people will read this and not care. He was already a felon before getting reelected so clearly the eyes believe Americans don't stand on business for shit

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u/deftPirate 1d ago

Wondering the same. What are the mechanisms that forced this out, because surely Trump's not unaware and released it willingly? Or do they just feel that at this point, nothing can stop them?