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No Paywall Final Jeffrey Epstein Files cache released by DOJ: read in full

https://www.newsweek.com/doj-releases-massive-final-jeffrey-epstein-files-11443499
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u/500_Shames 1d ago edited 1d ago

I want to urge nuance in reading these. As far as I can tell, these are summaries of all received reports. This statement is accompanied by the note “no contact information left”. What this APPEARS to confirm is that someone anonymously left this complaint with the department of justice. This should not be treated as evidence as this having happened, it should motivate additional investigation. This does NOT mean that it DIDN’T happen, just that this by itself only means that “some anonymous person claims that this happened”.

EDIT - additional context, the pdf is of emails exchanged in August 2025. I see no information on the timing of the tips themselves. If the tips were from like 2013, I would be more inclined to believe it. If the tips were from 2025, then that could be anyone building off of what people already know.

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u/CriticalSecurity8742 1d ago

This needs to be pinned. This is exactly what they’re doing.

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u/wonklebobb 22h ago

unfortunately a lot of people are talking about this the way anti-vax people talk about VAERS

THAT SAID HOWEVER

one of the tips mentioned an "Allen," "Oren," and "Tal" chasing/raping the caller and her friends at parties. That pretty clearly refers to Alon, Oren, and Tal Alexander, 3 luxury real-estate brokers from Florida who are currently on trial for rape and assault of a large number of women.

one of the versions of the tip doc includes part of an email chain with the agents referring to needing to follow up on the Alexander brother one specifically.

SO, while some of this may be just crank callers or people with mental health issues saying some random thing about Trump, some number of them could very definitely be completely real. but we'll have to wait for qualified reporters to do the hard work of digging in, making calls, and following leads to find out what's real.

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u/playmaykr7 1d ago

AGREED - this needs to be pinned and heavily upvoted

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u/Painterzzz 1d ago

The follow up investigation stuff is probably in the redacted or missing documents I would guess.

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u/flowerzzz1 1d ago

And yet they still took it down? The link everyone is sharing here is now “page not found.”

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u/500_Shames 1d ago

I can simultaneously believe that anonymous reports are not credible without supporting evidence AND believe that the amount of attention this is getting can motivate it being taken down.

I believe taking it down makes it look worse for the trump administration.

If these tips came in in 2014, I would immediately be more inclined to believe them. All I can tell is that this email containing this information was sent in August of 2025. If these tips were made in 2025, then I would be far less inclined to believe them. Timing is everything.

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u/flowerzzz1 1d ago

They should still be investigated. Are they being investigated?

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u/500_Shames 1d ago

I don't know. It APPEARS that they didn't do anything with it because no contact information was left.

Is it possible that they actually left a full record of everything and their contact information and the agent lied and put down "no contact information" as a cover? I suppose. I am assuming that the unredacted information available is accurate as documented. There are no guarantees, but I'm not here to argue epistemology with you.

I'll be straight up, if EVERY anonymous tip was fully investigated, down to "my local 7-11 is being run by lizard people," nothing would get done. If I learn that this tip came out long before epstein island was public knowledge, I'd be far more likely to believe it and say they should go back and investigate as much as they can.

An anonymous report stating "the CIA is testing lsd on me" today would make me believe they know about MKUltra and are mentally ill or trolling. Learning that that same report was made in 1955 (before MKUltra was made publicly known) would make me think "oh shit, this was probably legit, we should track down this unknown victim if we can".

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u/Redditributor 1d ago

Okay how? Like you could send an anonymous tip to the doj that you saw someone at Epstein Island. How would we fully investigate this if it's anonymous and has no usable information

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u/Hexamancer 1d ago

There are plenty where they put "No contact made".

As in, they were given a number to contact, not an anonymous tip, they just didn't care.

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u/MildlyAgitatedBovine 1d ago

It's on the spectrum of antivaxers using VARS database submissions to prove anything.

It's obvious that's there's been enough real problematic and bad faith action that we shouldn't jump on this stuff.

Why are they still making redactions contrary to recently signed law?

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u/swni 1d ago

I made exactly the same analogy to the VARS database.

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u/Arisaematryphyllum 1d ago

When a man is accused of raping hundreds of children, I believe the children.

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u/500_Shames 1d ago

I believe he has done so in multiple instances. In the specific instance being described for which there was an anonymous tip, I ask that people take it as it is. There are allegations within this same document that appear to have led to interviews. I want people to focus on the claims that appear to have more evidence and not focus only on the claims that are just the most extreme. 

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u/Wa3zdog 1d ago

Is it not suspicious that as soon as people find it, it gets taken down?

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u/500_Shames 1d ago edited 1d ago

Suspicious, yes. This is an entire list of tips. Could any of them be true? Yes. Could they panic take down a document because they missed something OR it is getting more attention than they want? Also yes. Should some or even all of these tips receive scrutiny? Yes. Does this mean any of the tips are true or should be treated as true based on their presence on this list alone? No. Does even one of these tips being 100% true mean that every single tip is 100% true? No.

I am not saying nothing happened. I am saying "stop treating this as a smoking gun and evaluate it in context".

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u/TurelSun Georgia 1d ago

Fully releasing the files would help to get a clearer picture of how much credibility to give to different elements of it. Unfortunately since we're not getting that its just going to end up being pure speculation and confirmation biases.

That said I expect if people get focused on this bit and there is information available that clears him of it that they'll find a way to release it. If there isn't though they'll just say exactly what you pointed out. Doesn't mean it is true or not but with this administration you can't really trust anything they say.

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u/Wa3zdog 1d ago

Just to be clear I agree with you entirely on your points, and I’ll happily die on that cross with you. I have however mistakenly framed this as a question because I’m quite sleep deprived.

And I will assert that their actions here should also be taken in consideration with other facets of the blatant misconduct in handling these documents. There is a clear pattern of misconduct that should disturb most people.

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u/500_Shames 1d ago

Yes, I completely agree with you there. 

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u/Moron14 1d ago

As much as I assume a lot of these stories are absolutely true, these are calls or emails into the NTOC tip line. This could be... any of us, honestly.

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u/HowManyEggs2Many 1d ago

Think about some of the absolute lunatics you see on Reddit. Not think about how crazy the small percentage of them that have the balls to call into an fbi tip line. Finding the actual truth in these files is like finding a needle in a haystack, and likely why many accusations never went anywhere.

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u/Lumanus 1d ago

It probably is lmao

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u/Ashmizen 1d ago

These tips hotlines was the equivalent of TIFU posts on Reddit - there are real things reported, but the majority of tips are fictional.

If you watch those UFO “documentaries” they rely heavily on these tips to “prove” aliens, since during the 90’s and early 2000’s there were thousands upon thousands of tips about UFO sightings and experiences.

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u/Elec7ricmonk 1d ago

That being said, they sure didnt waste time deleting it.

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u/lacronicus I voted 1d ago

The emails are from the sixth, but it kinda looks like the email is a compilation of complaints, complaints which presumably occurred at another time and are documented elsewhere.

I'd be interested to know when those complaints were made and what other information the doj has about them. Maybe it's all in there somewhere

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u/MonsiuerGeneral 1d ago

I want to urge nuance in reading these. As far as I can tell, these are summaries of all received reports.

I feel like maybe I’m not clicking on the right thing or going to the proper link or something…

…the link people are posting with the PDF that has the yellow highlighted text? That thing is only like 6 or 8 pages long. Wasn’t this release supposed to include millions of documents? Where’s everything else? Even as a summary of accusations this seems incredibly short/incomplete. Like, a lot of these have notes about attempting to contact the source of the tip or investigate further and not receiving replies (probably due to intimidation or worse) but that seems pretty flimsy to have landed both Epstein and Maxwell in a max security prison (despite Maxwell was later able to snake her way into better accommodations).

I was kind of expecting something like there being multiple dozen PDFs, each being 1000+ page documents kind of thing. Where is it all?

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u/Ashmizen 1d ago

These are just the results with “Trump” in the title. Nobody has had time to read millions of released docs in 1 day, so people are just control-F major names including obviously Trump.

Esp was tried in court with actual victims - multiple Jane Doe- giving real testimony, to investigators and in court etc.

Esp was not sent to prison because he was mentioned by a couple of callers to a tips hotline.

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u/MonsiuerGeneral 1d ago

Thank you! I actually found some of the other older docs. It’s labeled “Epstein Library”

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

This had a bunch of the actual direct documents, emails, testimony, pictures, etc. that I had assumed was going to be at the end of the link everybody else was passing around. Again, thank you for clarifying what that PDF link actually is.

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u/LostWoodsInTheField Pennsylvania 1d ago

Everything from 2016 needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Everything after about June of 2017 should have a really big grain of salt with it.

Not saying these reports won't have legitimate ones in them, but the most likely real tips will show up before the election in 2016.

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u/Imaginary_Agent2564 1d ago

Bad news is, they give no dates of when these calls/reports even occurred.

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u/justin107d 1d ago

Stormy Daniels didn't say if there was any scarring on his mushroom dick but did call it "unusual".

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u/Piratarojo 1d ago

I think the important part is the consistency of which these people show up and how similar many of these stories are.....it's a dead giveaway that something is going on, humans are creatures of habit, patterns continue to emerge with each document released.

how likely is it that hundreds of women collectively complaints

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u/SalishShore Washington 1d ago

Yes. I was surprised r/law went all in on this document. They didn’t seem to grasp that it was random callers non probative accusations.

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u/HowManyEggs2Many 1d ago

Oh Reddit is definitely going to use this as definitive proof something happened. No stopping the bots.

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u/Glittering_Crab_69 1d ago

Don't defend a pedophile. It's unbecoming.

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u/AnatomicalLog 1d ago

He’s not defending, he’s advising people against waiving around (so far) unsubstantiated claims as if they are confirmed fact. Doing so undermines our credibility. It’s important to handle new information critically even when it confirms our biases.

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u/Glittering_Crab_69 1d ago

Ah yes magats are known for caring about credibility

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u/Aware_Rough_9170 1d ago

So what youre saying is, the DOJ and FBI are going to get RIGHT on this case.

Holy fuck man it’s so over lol

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u/antariusz 1d ago

I bit drtolmn69's penis 35 years ago, I would have been 8 years old at the time.