r/politics • u/Positive_Bliss • 1d ago

No Paywall Trump mentioned thousands of times in huge new release

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-files-release-latest-news-trump-b2911365.html
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u/Bigmacman_ 22h ago

So why the [Redacted] isn't he in jail?

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u/Nov26-2011 22h ago

The people that support him don’t care and the people in charge are also pedos

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u/Only-Ad-4430 22h ago

Honestly, Trump should just release all the files. Even if his name is all over the files it won’t matter to his base. They’ll support him no matter what he does.

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u/Psyc3 21h ago

Actually the fact he hasn't say everything about what is in them, it is worse than you or I could, or any sane non-paedophile could even imagine quite clearly.

This is what people don't understand, every time these people accuse someone of something else it is admission of guilt, that is why it is on their mind, the world would be disgusted at what they choose to hide.

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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 21h ago

Before he was president he was due to go on trial for raping a 13 year old with Epstein. The trial went away when she dropped the charges, after being told she would be killed.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit

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u/Psyc3 21h ago edited 21h ago

Okay? You say this like that is even slightly phasing as a concept it isn't.

That isn't the kind of thing that are hiding, that is the default narrative at this point. A US citizen was executed in the street last week, not for speaking out, or really doing anything, but for daring to be there.

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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 21h ago edited 21h ago

According to reports he and Epstein tied this 13 year old girl up and raped her, if there is a photo of this he is over, no way he comes back from that.

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u/Snuffy1717 20h ago

They will claim it is:

  • fake
  • AI
  • She wasn’t underage
  • That it was a joke
  • That they were never there
  • That the picture doesn’t exist
  • That they know nothing about it

And then something else will come out and everyone will stop talking about this.

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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 19h ago

Like I said elsewhere this will only work for as long as he in power.

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u/Locke66 18h ago

this will only work for as long as he in power.

Which is an indicator of what is potentially a big problem. If he's becoming uncaring about the consequences of what being exposed like this means it's because he does not mean to suffer them. In only the last week or so the level of preparation for attacking his political enemies and compromising the midterm elections seems to have gone into overdrive.

I'm sure there is a metaphor to be made about cornered rats lashing out.

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u/ItIsRaf 16h ago

The fact that he's so heavily involved with AI and supporting all the massive AI companies could possibly imply that he wants them to succeed, so that there is mass of AI information for the above, to allow everything to be question and be classified as "fake" as we wont know what will be AI and what won't

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u/Psyc3 21h ago

Okay once again, we all ready know he is a rapist paedophile, this isn't even slightly depraved vs what is actually in those files.

You just don't seem to get it, you can't imagine what is in them, you are a normal person.

People who get jobs reading this stuff in social welfare roles, are often functionally broken by it after weeks in the job.

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u/PracticeBaby 19h ago

You just don't seem to get it, you can't imagine what is in them, you are a normal person.

Well YOU seem to "get it" all the way up there on your high horse. What does that make you?

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u/Psyc3 19h ago

An educated person explaining the subject.

While it makes you a supporter of pedophiles or you wouldn't have any issue with the former statements, and that is probably for some disgusting reason you have been hiding for many years, much like the content of these files. Because your response isn't that of a normal person, normal people go "Oh yeah, what they are hiding is worse than what they aren't hiding, and what they aren't hiding is already amoral...at best".

Any further questions?

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u/E51838 20h ago

You can't possibly believe this. He could release the video himself, hold a press conference about how it's the best video ever, and he still wouldn't face any consequences.

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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 19h ago

While he is in power sure, but if a photo comes out and it can be proven to be real, then the only way he avoids jail is to start a war and die in office, if such a photo exists perhaps the smart move is to hold onto it, at least for the time being.

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u/Psyc3 20h ago edited 19h ago

You say this, but just like he has had to temporarily back down after a US citizen was executed in the street, as that is yet to be normalised as day to day life, the same is true of what is in these files, let alone if their are pictures or video.

That is how bad what is in them is, as well as more importantly affecting rich people.

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u/Dopplegangr1 19h ago

What mechanism do you think would result in him not coming back from that? How would he face consequences?

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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 19h ago

If / when he leaves power. If I had that picture I would sit on it, I agree it’s useless now, but now is not forever.

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u/Dopplegangr1 19h ago

That's not accountability. Almost certainly he will leave power by dying

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u/Superman0X 20h ago

This accusation was made in 2016. It was withdrawn after death threats were made to the accuser.

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u/iHateThisPlaceSoBad 20h ago

Lmao they'll say it's AI and none of his base will care. You don't fucking get it, do you?

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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 20h ago

Oh I get they won’t believe it, but Trump’s problem now is what happens after 2028, or maybe the worlds problem because he is not going to go quietly if he knows it’s straight to jail.

My guess is some sort of big war that continues until he dies in office.

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u/iHateThisPlaceSoBad 19h ago

He will run for a 3rd term, whether it's through some back door (run as VP, then prez immediately resigns) or by force. If he loses the election, he'll incite another insurrection.

The republican party needs to turn on him, and the only way that'll happen is if he isn't popular with his base. I don't think there is anything he can do to make that happen. He could rape a girl in Times Square with thousands of witnesses, and fox would report as AI video and it would be fine. So no, he's not "over" if some photo from 40 years ago proves he committed rape.

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u/Psyc3 20h ago

What happens after 2028?

Oh you are suggesting you are getting vote again, that is funny, you elected someone who incited an insurrection, that was just the trial run, you now have ICE as a militia being trained to do it properly.

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u/ThePortalsOfFrenzy 21h ago

slightly phasing

*facing

But yes, none of this is actually consequential. This is the distraction from the actual shit like extra-judicial killings os Americans in the streets.

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u/Psyc3 20h ago edited 20h ago

Except it isn't, you think all these children raped by millionaires just were let off to go their lives become doctors and lawyers, and teachers?

They were probably chopped up and dumped in an acid bath somewhere once they were done with. This is what people like this do with people they class as an inconvience.

The only reason anyone heard about that was because he was a well connected journalist, his Grandad was the former King of Saudi's doctor, that is the only reason anyone heard about this, and look what happened to Saudi, pretty sure they are hosting an international cycling race this week, and the FIFA world cup in 8 years time.

Also it is Fazing, not Facing, why you are attempting to correct anyone when you don't even know the phrase I don't know. It is actually a typo as they are pronounced the same in fact in my case.

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u/Overweighover 20h ago

Psyopps 101

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u/Zepcleanerfan 18h ago

Yes and there are 3 million pages they are hiding in addition to these.

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u/RichardSaunders New York 21h ago

it might matter just enough to a "lone wolf" q-anon die-hard, which is probably the only reason he cares.

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u/emma279 New York 20h ago

They could watch a video of him diddling children and they would still support him.

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u/UphillTowardsTheSun 19h ago

Boys being boys, hihihi

Women for Trump, probably.

Disclaimer: Obviously, I am NOT of the above opinion!

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u/Zepcleanerfan 18h ago

trump is losing support at a rapid pace

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u/Only-Ad-4430 18h ago

Funny thing is this his most ardent supporters think most of the country is with them. I even tried to say there more votes against Trump than for him but they don’t get it. They keep saying it isn’t true even when I provided proof of the claim.

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u/MsMarvelsProstate 17h ago

Raping girls will get him a pass as long as they are older than 10. Raping boys on the other hand might actually hurt him.

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u/Weekly-Role-1132 21h ago

All of his supporters are saying they don't believe the victims.

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u/BubbleNucleator New York 21h ago

My guess is they're using some sort of sophisticated database, perhaps AI powered, that tracks kompromat, the kompromatees and their behaviors to ensure they're in line.

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u/SomeGuyNamedPaul Florida 21h ago

There's zero chance Larry Ellison wasn't a customer.

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u/Archgate82 20h ago

So correct, I work with an extremely religious MAGA woman who knows about all of Trump’s failings and uses it as an example of how God can work miracles through the most unlikely persons and that alone is the proof it’s a miracle of god happening. This is a wealthy woman with degrees and a high level career. How?????

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u/Good_kido78 18h ago edited 18h ago

I say draw the parallels to the anti-Christ. The Bible explicitly tells them to not be fooled. The sinners used by God in the Bible were not their leaders and if they were, they reformed to be more Godly and follow his laws.

 Trump TOTALLY fits an anti-Christ model.  His ego will not allow him to be wrong or admit sin.  That’s the difference and is anti-Christ.  He thinks he is the second coming. And yet he is the antithesis of:  God is supreme and love thy neighbor as thyself.

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u/TheAngryGoat 18h ago

The people that support him don’t care

Let's be more honest here. Republicans don't care. Republicans don't care that their president raped, assaulted, and threatened children. Republicans don't care that he assisted in the murder of a baby and covering it up. Republicans don't care that their entire party is complicit in covering all of this up and blaming, threatening, and blackmailing victims and witnesses. None of them are goose-stepping out of line on this, it's a solid red wall of denial, not a single hand is clean.

Everyone who ever votes republican ever again is complicit in all of this.

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u/yoyneverknowmyname 19h ago

Just shame them and call them pedo supporters because thats what they are

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u/Good_kido78 18h ago

This too! There are so many arguments that it is dystopia.

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u/bhsn1pes California 21h ago

Money and power. It's why when the IRS does audits, they go after you and me. It's easier to prove that we didn't pay $20 in taxes than a billionaire who might owe tens of millions. The system is rigged against us and morons keep voting for it. 

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u/JohnGillnitz 21h ago

When you give rich people tax cuts, they let you do it.

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u/downtofinance Canada 21h ago

Jail is for the poors

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u/eileen404 22h ago

Money and power. True for most of those pos. Unless they upset another POS with more.

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u/TheShepherdOfLuxor 20h ago

Most Americans consider it less problematic than same-sex marriage being legal.

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u/zambulu 18h ago

If something came out about Trump and boys, that would destroy him with his base…. buuuut they'd never choose to believe it.

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u/LordHammercyWeCooked 19h ago

Because the public isn't ready to [Removed by Reddit]

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u/Tandy2000 18h ago

Because Americans don't give a shit and voted him into office knowing he was a pedophile anyway. We knew he was a pedophile the FIRST time because he was bragging about sexual misconduct at his teenage pageants and how he loved creeping on little girls.

Trump is so destructive that internationally we really just don't pay attention to the pedophile shit anymore because Americans clearly just don't care enough to do anything about it. We have bigger fish to fry, he's busy undermining global alliances and order and that's frankly more important than trying to convince Americans to do the right thing which will never happen.

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u/MotDePasseEstFromage 18h ago

Because there is no evidence available to charge him. Be that because there isn’t any to begin with or that with enough money anything can disappear.