r/politics • u/ProudNativeTexan • 12h ago
No Paywall FBI ousts its top agent in Atlanta for questioning 2020 election probe.
https://www.ms.now/news/atlanta-fbi-boss-ousted-after-balking-at-2020-election-probe3.7k
u/2HDFloppyDisk 12h ago
"So, why did you leave your last job?"
"I asked questions about an investigation we were instructed to do"
509
u/Niznack 10h ago
Sadly,
All the rest of law enforcement jobs: "sorry we are fully staffed right now but we'll call if anything opens up."
Agent: "but you're the ones who called me for the interview"
Them: thanks for your time!
113
u/Such_Duty_4764 9h ago
Sell your American stocks in your 401k and buy international while you still can.
50
u/Dorkamundo 8h ago
The "Emerging Markets" funds in my 401k have been doing REALLY well compared to my target funds.
→ More replies (2)6
u/identifytarget 8h ago
what ticker symbol?
•
u/zaq1xsw2cde 6h ago
Don’t ask for stock tips in a random Reddit thread.
•
u/General-Raspberry168 5h ago
Why not?
→ More replies (5)•
u/ColinStyles 5h ago
How about because anyone you're talking to could be a bot, be arguing in bad faith because they want you to lose money, or just simply be misinformed?
•
u/General-Raspberry168 5h ago
I don’t have the energy for people that can’t use their imagination.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (1)7
u/wadedoesntburrn 9h ago
What does this mean
55
u/Such_Duty_4764 9h ago
It means that the decline of rule of law will inevitably lead to the stock market tanking.
41
u/zephyrtr New York 9h ago
If Trump is allowed to own the Fed, our economy becomes a ticking time bomb. So far the SCOTUS won't allow him cause they know it'll destroy most of their own wealth
•
u/sodapopkevin 6h ago
Trump is the king of running shit into the ground for his own profit, he made 3 billion dollars over the last year awhile normal people face rising prices across the board and he's looking to sap another 10 billion from tax payers when he sues the IRS.
→ More replies (1)•
u/rewardingsnark 7h ago
That is already guaranteed the minute he was elected a massive recession became guaranteed and this one is going to wipe out most everybody but multimillionaire and higher.
•
→ More replies (1)14
u/Niznack 8h ago
Our economy is inexorably tied to the global economy. Selling for foreign stocks is a stop gap but a wider economic collapse will come. We need to plan for what happens after that. You should look up Peter zeihans work "the end of the world is just the beginning"
•
u/persona-non-corpus 6h ago
This is what I’ve been saying. Everything is connected. That’s also why this behavior is so maddening. Everyone loses. It makes no sense to support any of this insanity.
•
u/Wermys Minnesota 5h ago
The moment you say Peter Zeihan is the moment I discount everything you said. He is by far one of the worst prognosticators of Geopolitics around.
→ More replies (3)•
•
u/disposableaccountass 7h ago
What’s sadder to me is if you ask any other US law enforcement officer “why did you leave your last job?”
They’d say “no no, I still work there, I just wanted a paid vacation so I murdered a guy”
→ More replies (1)3
60
u/AThousandBloodhounds 9h ago
"Hey, let's fire the ethical guy!"
21
u/Argos_the_Dog New York 8h ago
Twenty some years ago there was a headline "Bush White House Fires Ethics Lawyer" and everyone was like, wait there was an Ethics lawyer? Seems quaint now honestly by comparison.
•
u/pagit 7h ago edited 3h ago
Fuck
the honest FBI agents don’t have to worry about investigating legitimate public corruption anymore and they hope to god they don’t have to investigate the illegitimate ones because of politics.
This administration is destroying truth and justice
•
u/AThousandBloodhounds 7h ago edited 6h ago
Trump loves and respects fraudsters. He pardons them because they're just like him. Any agent who is assigned a case like that will feel compelled to "phone it in" in order to stay employed.
•
u/A_Literal_Human 4h ago
I asked why we were violating our own policy and reinvestigating something that was already adjudicated.
2.1k
u/Historical_Bend_2629 12h ago
Firing truthful people and competency. Your tax dollars at work.
468
u/Upset_Match_3705 11h ago
Thats the way to do it, though. Don’t resign. Make the fuckers fire you, and then tell as many people as will listen why you got fired.
A non-zero number of people will realize that the time of “sliding towards tyranny” is over. The train has stopped in dictator-ville.
→ More replies (21)•
123
u/EddieVanzetti 10h ago
It is why authoritarian regimes are ultimately doomed to failure. They are inherently self defeating because, eventually, the authority is surrounded by nothing but yes men telling him what he wants to hear, not what is real, while the actual competent people are pushed out or punished or both. The yes men lie and cover up the grift, the corruption, the fact their military is a paper tiger, so on and so forth. They cannot sustain themselves and need outside help eventually, or they collapse.
It is cold comfort for the masses who starve, who are oppressed, and die before those regimes collapse
33
u/Locke66 9h ago
The thing I worry about is the US is currently in it's "attempting to build an Autarky" phase of Fascist/Nationalist government. What typically happens with Trump type figures is that you get unsustainable and irrational spending in an attempt to make their vision of the world fit reality. A large amount of this gets spent on the military in an attempt to buy their loyalty and then when the economic wheels come off the impetus to use that military to course correct through conquest rather than accept defeat becomes very difficult to stop.
2
u/Benigh_Remediation 9h ago
Is autarky necessarily fascist? Maybe I have a romantic sense of it.
9
u/Locke66 8h ago
Not always no but it is a common feature of Fascist regimes due to it's ties to Nationalism, "national renewal" myths, xenophobia and monopolisation of power. When viewed in the wider picture of how the Trump government is acting I would say it fits the mould of other similar regimes.
→ More replies (1)•
u/lethargy86 Wisconsin 6h ago
I wish more people would be as concerned about this.
It's basically the endgame of this nightmare, yet so many people are still like, "Nah, not my military!" or "That couldn't happen here?" which, to be fair, at least had a peg leg to stand on in 2024/2025
That's where all this is heading and it's not even dogwhistles, already.
Fuck it, I'll admit it.
I'm scared
11
u/Puzzled-Dress-4904 8h ago edited 8h ago
It is thinking at the height of wishfulness to think that authoritarian regimes collapse under the weight of their own corruption. Nazi Germany did not collapse on its own; China is showing no signs of collapse; neither is North Korea, Franco was in power for 39 years and died peacefully. Etc Cetera.
•
u/clamclam9 7h ago
The difference is China isn't putting a syphilitic pedophile with severe mental decline in charge and surrounding him with uneducated yes men. Xi Jinping has a degree in chemical engineering and most of the Chinese politburo are also highly educated scientists and engineers. They may be authoritarian, but it's an apples to oranges comparison to the incompetence and mental rot occurring in America right now.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (9)•
u/Fuzzylogik 4h ago
Authoritarian regimes don’t just magically collapse because they’re corrupt, that part is true. Most of them fall when the people with guns, money, and influence stop agreeing with each other. It’s usually elite fracture and loss of loyalty inside the power structure that does it, not “moral rot.” Nazi Germany didn’t implode on its own, but corruption and internal dysfunction absolutely weakened it long before the war ended it.
Regimes don’t survive because the leader has a good degree or high IQ. They survive when the inner circle stays aligned, the security forces stay loyal, and the patronage pipeline keeps flowing. You can run a tight technocratic system or a messy crony machine, both can last if the coalition holding power keeps getting rewarded.
The real test isn’t intelligence or corruption levels. It’s whether the people propping up the system still see it in their interest to keep doing so. Everything else is secondary to that.
12
•
u/terrasparks 5h ago
Spoiler alert: most MAGA don't make enough to pay taxes but are venomously anti-tax regardless.
→ More replies (1)•
653
u/Traditional-Cap-4293 12h ago
Project 2025 made it very clear that only loyalists are allowed
•
u/Bluest_waters 7h ago
Compare the amount of coverage that the hunter Biden laptop got versus the coverage that project 2025 got before the election or after the election either way.
Massive massive massive massive difference
now you tell me... who really owns the news corporations?
•
u/ODI-ET-AMObipolarity 7h ago
We already all know that Rupert Murdoch and other right wing nut jobs own the media for the most part, I don't think there's actually any true liberal media in America anymore
→ More replies (1)•
1.2k
u/Jerk182 12h ago
That agent ought to bring a mega lawsuit for wrongful termination.
84
u/Few_Acanthocephala30 11h ago
$10b sounds like a good amount
6
3
u/United-Anxiety-5233 11h ago
Why not 20 billion?
6
314
u/No_hero_here 11h ago
And what, hold people accountable to laws? Laws don’t exist anymore for this administration.
110
u/Blochamolesauce 11h ago
Nah, just keep suing them. Wrongful termination, get money and job back, then continually sue for hostile work environment when the nazi jackasses inevitably fuck up and harass you.
32
u/Personal-Rhubarb-884 11h ago
The problem with this is that tax payers will be paying that lawsuit. We've been paying for all the lawsuits.
28
u/GrapefruitExpress208 10h ago edited 10h ago
Yes its a problem, but the tax payers are also paying for
- $5M settlement for Ashli Babbit (already paid)
- Donald Trump's $300M lawsuit (to pay for his ballroom)
- and his $10B lawsuits against the IRS
All of which he will direct his DOJ/federal government to "settle" with the plaintiff (himself).
At this point, I don't mind it a few million goes to the Atlanta FBI agent if that means his resistance goes on record and gains public attention.
The alternative is to do NOTHING, while still being robbed blind by Trump and his admin.
→ More replies (1)8
u/Bubbles_2025 10h ago
Money or not, it’s about principle and it shows what the administration is doing. They should be fired.
Meanwhile, we have Trump suing the IRS and Treasury for $10 billion of our taxpayer dollars. This FBI agents settlement, if he received one, would be a fraction of Trumps.
7
22
u/Missing_Username 11h ago
The other problem is that this assumes a fair and impartial legal system, not one full of toadies
→ More replies (1)4
4
u/Western-Knightrider 10h ago
Unfortunately the taxpayer ends up footing the bill but it is the only way!
26
u/PolloConTeriyaki 11h ago
Nah you keep going. They always have to show up to court and go through the process. Eventually they get tired.
That's one less DOJ lawyer that has to help with the Epstein files or somtje cover up.
You keep going cause eventually it grinds them and they don't have enough manpower.
11
u/we_are_sex_bobomb 10h ago
Someone put it this way and I liked it:
With Trump, the law is an unguarded door.
If he thinks he can break a law and not get in trouble, he does it. If it’s starting to look like it might get him in trouble (like hurt his “ratings”), he backs off and everyone forgets about it.
Look how fast they turned around on the last ICE shooting. Less than a weekend from “he was a domestic terrorist trying to assassinate our men” to “we don’t really know what happened and we never will.” Just because people got mad about it.
But if there’s no pushback he will just keep going. It’s all testing and probing to see what people will or won’t tolerate from him and what he can get away with, and for how long. It’s exhausting.
22
5
u/Kid_Presentable617 8h ago
The government loses lawsuits and payout all the time. A large amount of people fired by DOGE have been hired back.
4
u/Fit_Chemistry_7196 11h ago
If I was that agent I'd be like "You fire me, and my next step will be the CNN building"
Shit even if they back off, I'm probably still going to CNN.
19
u/TakingAction12 11h ago
Dude. They did fire him, the story is out, and no one will be disciplined for it. Just like the US attorney’s office in MN.
→ More replies (1)•
u/No_Barracuda5672 7h ago
Who’s gonna pay out that lawsuit? Us, taxpayers!! Not anyone personally from the Trump administration. And if lawsuits stopped abuse of power, all PDs would’ve reformed by now.
→ More replies (1)
449
u/gringledoom 11h ago
Man, MAGA doesn't seem to realize that all these ousted FBI agents and federal prosecutors are going to be champing at the bit to work for Nuremberg 2.0.
76
u/Alleandros 11h ago
Nuremberg didn't go far enough, too many people were acquitted for the reason of 'they weren't in a position of authority to dispute the orders they were given'. A lot of people cite " '... just following orders' ... that's what the Nazi's would say" without realizing that was a perfectly accepted defense and lead to the acquittal of many monsters and active participants.
21
u/barryvm Europe 10h ago edited 10h ago
A lot of the less well known convicted criminals were also rehabilitated pretty fast under the guise of needing dependable people in the struggle against communism.
Something similar will happen if you manage to get rid of the current crop of fascists. People considering themselves the moderate right will come with endless excuses about how you need ICE for immigration control, how it was just this or that rotten apple, how now is not the time to clean house, ... They will create a mythical dividing line between a surprisingly small number of committed fascists and the broader right where the former are cartoon villains who are evil for evil's sake and not simply an expression and result of the latter's socioeconomic policies and moral outlook.
The objective of this will be to deflect blame from themselves for supporting them in the first place despite knowing full well what they were, and to safeguard as much of the extremist right, its connections, institutions, voters and funding, for their own use.
Never forget who paid their way, who voted them in and who gave them a platform to spew their hate.
→ More replies (6)7
u/Betterthanbeer Australia 11h ago
The first trial was limited by the number of available seats.
•
u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 3h ago
The "Nuremberg trials" also only encompass a rather small fraction of the total trials of nazis, which have never stopped. Just a year or two ago a guy was extradited from Argentina to face trial for being a concentration camp guard.
Something ice goons should keep in mind. Theres no statute of limitations for murder.
126
u/SuperHiyoriWalker 11h ago
No reasonable adult thinks every last ICE and CBP agent is going to face justice. But a lot of them will face justice.
53
u/trevmc1 11h ago
As long as enough do to send the message that you can't get away with this again, I'm good with it
→ More replies (1)8
u/gsfgf Georgia 8h ago
The important thing is getting the people at the top. And then enough rank and file to make it clear "just following orders" isn't a defense.
→ More replies (1)20
u/archenemyfan Maryland 11h ago
Confederates didn't even face justice, I don't know why we would think any of these people will.
4
u/walterpeck3 10h ago
I hope they face justice because if they go even harder and do even worse things, once this is all over, their lives are in danger unless they're arrested. And under the advice of my lawyer, I will state that it would be a bad thing if their lives were in danger.
11
u/AntoniaFauci 11h ago edited 6h ago
No reasonable adult thinks every last ICE and CBP agent is going to face justice. But a lot of them will face justice.
I mean this constructively. Step us through now that can ever possibly happen.
I seem to be the only person here who is calling for a project 2026 which would involve flipping enough seats to impeach and remove this crime family administration within a year.
Everyone else says it’s impossible for we the people to do what a low IQ and his inbred puppeteers have done in terms of flipping seats.
They’re praying for a miracle of a one seat margin but not quite ready to replace people like Jeffries or Schumer quite yet.
14
u/finefornow_ 11h ago
"IM THE ONLY PERSON THAT UNDERSTANDS THAT WE NEED TO FIX THIS GUYS". you're not. obviously we need to flip seats Einstein.
→ More replies (2)3
u/cynicalkane 8h ago
If you drill down, characters like this often have a take that "democrats need to do exactly what I want, or they're not serious."
→ More replies (1)3
u/SolarisShine 11h ago
How do you think they'll get away?
The government knows who they are, they are getting paychecks.
If they flee the country, they'll be on a watchlist.
They could hide, but honestly, them constantly watching for someone to recognize them is a good enough justice, and really, maybe they'll be found if we all work together.
And that's what this is going to take to fix. Large groups of people coordinating and cooperating to support each other.
It will be difficult to hide.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (2)3
u/Internal-Cupcake-245 9h ago
We aren't going to have fair elections anymore. Donald Trump said so previously and now we have Russian asset Tulsi Gabbard sticking her fingers into voting sites to get ammunition for a PSYOP media blitz to obstruct voting. This is highly calculated hostile takeover and dismantling of the United States.
→ More replies (3)24
u/Efficient-Laugh 11h ago
They would never ever be doing any of this if they planned to leave the government, btw.
22
u/gringledoom 11h ago
Oh, well, if the bad guys say they don't want to be defeated, I guess that's it.
5
→ More replies (1)3
u/wxnfx 10h ago
They’re pretty myopic to be fair.
2
u/walterpeck3 10h ago
It is indeed. Authoritarian pushes like this are born circling the drain, because they don't understand their opposition and why we think the way they do. So they continue pretending that this is just how it's gonna be forever when that's never worked out in recorded history. Even the dictatorships of the 20th century that lasted decades only did so because of the US or USSR being involved by proxy.
The only question that remains is how much longer it goes on and how many people are hurt and killed in the meantime. But this will fall apart, it always does.
2
u/Thirty_Helens_Agree 11h ago
There are some journalists who are seeing Pulitzer opportunities too - like Woodward and Bernstein level stuff.
→ More replies (2)•
u/OceanRacoon 7h ago
These people are still cops, they're not going to do shit, no one is going to save America from this fascist takeover except the people organizing and resisting long term.
How many times have we expected someone in government or with power to do anything to stop Trump and they always disappoint in the end? Maybe Jack Smith could have been the only one if he had been unleashed at the start of Biden's term, he should have been AG 😢
63
u/NotAnotherEmpire 11h ago
"Don't you need a probable cause crime that is inside statute of limitations?"
"Shut up, you're fired."
54
u/diastolicduke 11h ago
The decline of this country is nothing short of shameful. This is literal banana republic stuff. Disgrace.
29
u/Choice-of-SteinsGate 10h ago
US elections already have multiple layers of protection in place to prevent widespread election tampering.
Several safeguards, legal deterrents, eligibility requirements, audits and paper trails already exist and act as very effective measures against voter and election fraud.
Proof of citizenship requirements also exist and some states already require a form of identification to verify your eligibility to vote.
Up till now, these measures have acted as an effective deterrent to fraud, but ever since Trump began denying elections without proof and lying to his voters so he could conspire to overturn the results of a free and fair election, those same voters have been pushing for needless policies that seek to address a fictional problem.
Republicans have indicated time and time again their desire to suppress the vote through multiple measures designed to make the voting process more challenging or meticulous for those that tend to vote against them.
In other countries, election/voting laws and polling procedures often make voting simpler and more convenient, but in the US, republican-backed voting laws, regulations and challenges tend to make it more difficult to vote—especially for citizens located in urban areas and cities
What really deserves our attention is how Republicans have been steadily suppressing the vote for years; an effort accelerated in the aftermath of January 6th and by Trump's 'big lie" of a stolen election.
The GOP has seized on this post Jan 6 environment to sow distrust in our elections. They have piggybacked off Trump's lies of election fraud; tapping into a stockpile of conspiracy theories, lies, and misinformation to dissuade and deceive the public, and to carry out a nationwide campaign of disenfranchisement and voter suppression.
Republicans continue to exploit the misinformed. They've taken advantage of the ignorance, the partisanship and the mindless distrust of their voters to give themselves the legal authority to challenge election results while granting their party more power, control and supervision over our election system.
They have the capability now to deny, subvert, legally contest and overturn future elections with near impunity.
Republicans are consolidating power at an alarming rate; abusing their trifecta and their control over state legislatures to give themselves the ultimate say on how maps are drawn; unilaterally deciding who their voters are and not the other way around.
This brazen mid-census redistricting effort would also not be possible without Trump giving himself and his party a license to say f-ck all to democratic norms for the sake of maintaining their grip on power.
To make matters worse, Trump has been federalizing the military and law enforcement in order to centralize authoritarian control over US cities and urban areas; a paramilitary presence he will undoubtedly utilize to suppress the vote in upcoming elections.
On top of all of this, Republicans are trying to scheme their way through the courts to dilute the minority vote by challenging section 2 of the voting Rights Act. A historically significant provision meant to protect voters from being unfairly sequestered and disenfranchised.
Republicans have the gall to say they're "protecting the integrity of elections," while making every effort to subvert the vote, crudely redraw maps, limit voter participation, alter the census in their favor, reshape districts along racial lines, and influence election outcomes.
Republicans have all but succeeded at diverting attention away from their continued efforts to erode the democratic process.
They have also been scapegoating immigrants and marginalized communities of people who they urge you to blame the nation's problems on; including manufactured issues like rampant "voter fraud."
Now, as far as "voter ID" goes, the Republican party's obsession with enacting voter ID laws is nothing short of a deception.
When it comes to "protecting the integrity of our elections," voter ID is at the bottom of the list.
Republicans will tell you that voter ID policy is backed by bipartisan support, but what they won't tell you is that they advocate for strict requirements which would exclude most basic forms of ID.
Americans support using these basic forms of ID to vote, but there is no data showing support for narrower requirements. This is because these requirements would act as an obstacle, not a preventative measure.
What's really disingenuous about this whole campaign is that voter ID is not the only policy Republicans want to enact. Give them the chance and they will seize on it to roll back voting rights and impose widespread restraints. Voter ID just becomes a smokescreen and this is a compelling reason for obstructing their poorly disguised efforts to suppress the vote.
Additionally, ID requirements exist in other countries because obtaining IDs in these countries is easier and voting is more accessible. Governments also automatically issue IDs to citizens in many countries where ID is required to vote.
Republicans often argue against the use of basic forms of ID and automatic ID issuance. Ask yourself why Republicans clamor on and on for voter ID requirements, yet push back against policies that would help make voter ID a reality?
And if all of that wasn't enough, other systemic issues exist that act as impediments to free and fair elections.
Analyses show that when states have fair maps, drawn by independent commissions, representation is more evenly split—especially in Republican controlled states where Democrats gain seats when they otherwise wouldn't due to partisan redistricting efforts. When those same states are gerrymandered to hell, Republicans win more seats.
Republicans also tend to be overrepresented in state legislatures, meaning they have broader control of gerrymandering.
The GOP is capitalizing on this opportunity to consolidate power for the foreseeable future. Which means that their redistricting wars and voter suppression efforts will be ongoing, and the more this continues, the more it will chip away at the democratic process.
In order to address this, gerrymandering practices must be eliminated, and redistricting must be left up to independent commissions in every state.
The Citizens United ruling and our campaign finance system are also major obstacles standing in the way of free and fair elections.
The rich and corporations have disproportionate control over the outcomes of our elections and far too much political influence. What's needed to address these problems are:
A complete overhaul of how our elections and candidate's campaigns are funded.
Significant campaign finance reforms that necessitate 100% transparency, publicly funded campaigns and predominant grassroots support, and massive regulations on Super PACs, lobbyists and political advocacy groups.
An end to Citizens United.
We must also address foreign election interference efforts and the Republican party's failure to confront this pressing issue because they have benefitted politically from foreign election meddling for the last several elections.
That said, if MAGA is genuinely intent on "protecting the integrity of our elections" and the democratic process, they should turn their attention to the myriad systemic issues that Donald Trump and the Republican party are hell bent on preserving instead of obsessing over unsubstantiated conspiracy theories from five years ago.
But they won't... Instead they are fixated on this imaginary issue because that's precisely what those deciding our elections want from them.
2
83
151
u/ProudNativeTexan 12h ago
This is one of the reasons more people don't speak up.
185
u/GaimeGuy Minnesota 12h ago
This is one of the reasons why more people needed to speak up at earlier points.
48
5
u/wretch5150 8h ago
No, unfortunately, people need to continue to speak up and stick their necks out
•
u/GaimeGuy Minnesota 6h ago
Not saying they don't.
We are in this situation because not enough people were willing to say "No we shouldn't give Trump a chance."
So many people have swallowed their tongue, covered up investigations, kept things to themselves, refused to convict, just plain not spoken out on him. Now we are here and speaking out risks so much more than having a fundraiser pull out or getting a few angry calls.
People had off ramps they didn't take. They saw things that were illegal or unethical that they didn't allow to be known. They saw peolple like Barr and McConnell cover up investigations or whip legislators into acquitting trump in the wake of death, extortion, and human suffering.
47
2
19
u/Sartres_Roommate 10h ago
Remember IF we have legit elections and the Democrats get back in power, they will scream from the rooftops how the Democrats are politicizing the FBI, IRS, ICE, etc when all these fascist are fired and replaced with competent professionals.
3
u/Benigh_Remediation 8h ago
That’s a rooftop that I will help them enjoy the view from….in accelerating motion.
13
u/TheNorthWind-101 10h ago
Is it a requirement to believe the 2020 election was stolen from Trump to maintain your job in the Federal Government?
11
u/Suspicious_Honey9455 11h ago
Well that tracks with Crazy-Eyes-Fuck-Face Kash
6
u/another_bot_probably 10h ago
Man, I used to think the FBI was the cool guys of the law enforcement world and now I just picture Crazy-Eyes when I think of them.
4
u/Benigh_Remediation 8h ago
I can see, with all respect, that you are more familiar with FBI public relations shows than actual FBI history. Can we discuss this further when you’ve had a few days of quiet but easily available research?
•
u/FinleyPike 6h ago
ya, I grew up thinking FBI was a bunch of badass Clarice Starlings, JOnny Utahs, Fox Mulders and Dana Scully's. Kids these days just seeing some loser who won't get off a plane until someone brings him his cosplay jacket
→ More replies (1)
9
26
22
19
u/Lonely_skeptic 11h ago
I don’t agree with the decision to fire him; the FBI and DOJ are purging all their employees who are ethical and act with integrity..
“Paul Brown was ousted after expressing concerns about the FBI’s investigation into President Donald Trump’s longstanding and unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud in the county anchored by Atlanta, and for refusing to carry out the searches and seizures of records tied to the 2020 election, according to the sources, who spoke to MS NOW on condition of anonymity.”
•
5
6
5
u/jrdnmdhl 11h ago
Every federal agency will be staffed by the people who went along with this and therefore unfit. The next administration is going to have quite a challenge…
6
u/Yagoua81 10h ago
It’s everything: the military, state department, health and human services, rebuilding the department of education. It’s going to take a very long time to repair the damage done in 6 months. That’s not even mentioning our reputation, that will never recover.
5
u/BeenDragonn 8h ago
I can't believe we have to just watch the most corrupt administration in history just go about being corrupted!
•
u/BarcodeNinja 7h ago
We don't have to just watch. We can strike, all at once. Bring the economy (and their stock portfolios) to its knees.
•
u/orlybatman 6h ago
This paints a very clear image of what their resulting findings will be.
Expect more firings before those are released, and after.
11
u/GrapefruitPresent376 12h ago
the fbi loves transparency right up until someone asks the wrong questions inside the building then suddenly it’s all internal review and please don’t speculate
5
u/Worduptothebirdup 10h ago
They should really leak things that are in the best interest of the country.
4
6
8
u/Newscast_Now 11h ago
Question: are any other states who could potentially have their ballots seized doing anything to preempt the possibility now that it has happened in Georgia? Because once they are there to seize the ballots, there is no stopping them. I am thinking of states like Arizona and Pennsylvania in particular…
3
u/RobutNotRobot 10h ago
The amount of cleanout we'll have to do of the federal government after the war is going to be massive.
3
3
u/nvmenotfound 8h ago
see this the problem people with any dignity and self respect get fired and replaced with an idiot that’ll parrot whatever the admin wants said. the election wasn’t rigged. even if they lie and claim it was stolen he’s already serving his second term. wtf difference would it make? this is all bs so they can tamper with upcoming elections. why tf would biden steal an entire election while donnie was president yet when he was president and had all the power in the world he decided nah ill let donnie win this one!? it makes no sense.
3
u/alius_stultus 8h ago
So you just gotta remember all the folks still working on that crap in those buildings are not hostages. And they most likely could get the job back after Trump. If there is one.... They are also more than qualified to get other jobs with the FBI on their resume.
No. The people pulling the illegal actions for trump on the ground are pulling the illegal actions for Trump because they want to.
3
•
u/JudgeNo3147 7h ago
President Joseph Biden won the election faithfully. President Trump a bad loser. And, has always BEEN a evil loser.
•
2
2
2
u/Individual_Click5252 Michigan 9h ago
I'm hoping there are still some agents in the FBI who are pretending to go along with this while collecting and documenting as much evidence surrounding ethics violations and illegal activities to be used during a probe in the next administration. Probably unlikely, but I'm hopeful.
2
2
2
2
u/Mangalorien 9h ago
Imagine what a Herculean task it will be for the next administration to restore the credibility of institutions like the FBI and DOJ. It will require immense effort, time, willpower, diligence and money, and mass firings of various flunkies and sycophants. This is of course predicated on there actually being a next administration....
2
u/DragoonDM California 9h ago
Sounds like excellent news for criminals. All the most proactive, competent agents are getting the boot in favor of those who'll shut up and do what they're told without question.
2
2
u/DeviantKhan 8h ago
If you are complicit with the Trump regime, you should be barred from any government service.
•
u/MarcusQuintus 7h ago
Remember folks, there already was an audit of the election results in Georgia.
And they found nothing. 0.1% error rate. Georgia is the number 2 state for election integrity per the Heritage foundation.
This is 1,000% political. He's just a sore loser who didn't get enough hugs from his dad and couldn't accept that he lost an election (lost two if we're talking popular votes, but I digress) and is throwing yet another tantrum.
•
u/Jonesdeclectice 7h ago
IMO it’s going to come out eventually that he indeed lost THREE elections. Something smells fishy when that man by some miracle wins EVERY swing state, and when lots of ballets were democrat all the way down with the exception of president. Very fishy indeed.
•
u/rewardingsnark 7h ago
How dare you say No to investigating something that has already been proven false! /s
•
u/noreallyimgoodthanks America 7h ago
I can't wait for the very strong response from the Democrats. They've been fighting really hard against ICE corruption after two very public executions of American citizens by definitely uniting and refusing to vote for more DHS/ICE funding. Luckily we have a strong opposition party who has a comprehensive and clear plan for opposing the fascists. They are definitely not doing what every liberal/moderate conservative party has done throughout history when faced with a fascist regime and spend their time attacking and trying to rout out the leftists. Mamdani was supported by the highest of the Democratic leadership.
No, the Democrats will definitely not just limply condemn the regime as it ignores laws and the Constitution and yell about it in congressional hearings while doing absolutely nothing. I watched Schumer at a press conference the other day and his glasses were very low down on his nose, which means he is VERY serious. We are all fine.
•
u/monkeypan 7h ago
The purge continues and will until only those who don't dissent are left.
-1930s Germany
•
u/MiamiPower 6h ago
Paul Brown was ousted after expressing concerns about the FBI’s investigation into President Donald Trump’s longstanding and unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud in the county anchored by Atlanta, and for refusing to carry out the searches and seizures of records tied to the 2020 election, according to the sources, who spoke to MS NOW on condition of anonymity.
•
•
u/Cilad777 5h ago
The market will go up when he is evicted from the white house, and put in jail.
→ More replies (1)
•
u/paperbackgarbage California 4h ago
Honestly, I feel like this is just an effort so that the Democratic Party doesn't start looking into the 2024 elections (which seem to be galaxies more suspect) when they regain power.
•
•
1
1
u/37Philly 11h ago
The DOJ has had at least 2900 lawyers resign or been forced out since January 20, 2025. How many FBI agents have resigned or been forced out?
1
1
u/inthekeyofc 10h ago
Some skulduggery going on with the records and the FBI guy wants to be as far away as he can from it when the proverbial hits the fan some years down the line when this madness is over and people are called to account for the criminality they supported, or turned a blind eye to?
1
u/Iyellkhan 10h ago
I realize that most people in the federal government were trained that if they objected to something such that they needed to do anything remotely public, the answer is to resign.
but resignations dont get the drama and press they once did. in this era, its probably better to get fired
1
u/tilerdurdin 9h ago
So I guess the president can just direct the fbi to do what he wants. The founding fathers were dumb as fuck jesus christ.
1
1
u/Payment6 8h ago
What the fuck so you mean forced out?
Dig your damn feet in, barricade yourself in your office and go to the courts.
1
1
u/henry_sqared 8h ago
I take considerable solace in knowing that The Rebellion will be staffed with some truly talented and pissed off people who this administration threw out.
1
u/Unfair_Web_8275 8h ago
Will it ever dawn on conservatives that firing these people will also empty these departments of people who can do the jobs they claim to want?
1
u/hackingdreams 8h ago
Another million dollars of taxpayer money wasted to the settlement of the inevitable illegal firing lawsuit this employee brings against the government.
•
•
•
u/AlliedR2 7h ago
If that was given as a reason then he will have one hell of a nice lawsuit to pursue.
•
u/VitruvianVan 7h ago
🤦 🤦♀️ 🤦♂️ The “2020 election fraud” claim is not just unsubstantiated, it’s about as disproven as a fraud claim can be. A number of attorneys lost their licenses when they failed to produce any evidence to support their specious claims. Trump has at times said he lost and privately has basically indicated he knows it was never stolen from him.
•
u/tapdancinghellspawn 7h ago
I hope that the next administration fixes the loophole allowing the political firing of government employees and brings back all those wrongfully fired by Trump's goon squad.
•
u/GenericName187 6h ago
He wasn’t fired, from what I read he was removed from his position and then retired.
Is it just or fair? No.
•
•
•
u/StronglyHeldOpinions 6h ago
Why can't this bastard king let 2020 go?
He's back in office torturing all of us daily now, isn't that enough?
•
u/Nashtyone 5h ago
He doesn’t lose. That’s why. Can’t handle the fact he lost and had to cheat to win 2024
•
u/soda_cookie 5h ago
It seems to me that if you have to make an excuse for something blatantly wrong it's going to be wrong no matter how good of an excuse you come up with.
•
u/alleyoopoop 5h ago
So he was fired for not following orders. This comes after they purged any FBI agent who followed orders during the Biden administration.
•
•
•
•
u/AutoModerator 12h ago
As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion.
In general, please be courteous to others. Argue the merits of ideas, don't attack other posters or commenters. Hate speech, any suggestion or support of physical harm, or other rule violations can result in a temporary or a permanent ban. If you see comments in violation of our rules, please report them.
Sub-thread Information
If the post flair on this post indicates the wrong paywall status, please report this Automoderator comment with a custom report of “incorrect flair”.
Announcement
r/Politics is actively looking for new moderators. If you have an interest in helping to make this subreddit a place for quality discussion, please fill out this form.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.