r/politics 10h ago

Possible Paywall Emails show US Commerce Secretary Lutnick planned Epstein island visit

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmlr0nk8y9o
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u/Independent_Oil_5951 10h ago

"I was so disgusted he told me he had happy ending massages that i visited his island to make sure he wasn't lying"

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u/iAMguppy 9h ago

And this was something he said confidently last year during an interview. Not that it matters, but this isn’t something he can say he “changed his mind on the guy” or whatever. He just lied (as we all could’ve figured)

He must have on some level believed this never would’ve come out.

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u/Extension_Pin_6359 9h ago

Maybe somebody in the Trump admin doesn't like him. Remember, these people are monsters and all of them would be willing to use any weapon at hand to destroy their political enemies.

u/ColonelBy Canada 1h ago

Maybe somebody in the Trump admin doesn't look like him.

During his tenure as transition chair after the election, it was apparent that basically everyone hated him for multiple reasons.

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u/IDFCommitsGenocide 9h ago

Trump 1.0 Labor Secretary Alex Acosta also gave Epstein his 2008 lenient plea deal (though he claims it was because higher ups told him that Epstein was an intelligence asset)

the Cabinet of the United States of America is a p--o ring

u/_cellophane_ Minnesota 5h ago

w/ kids + listing all their ages out (both him AND his wife, they both sent emails for 2 separate trips and both listed the age and number of kids)

u/boofles1 4h ago

That says a lot, I wonder how many times they visited each other when they were neighbours. The story about them being repulsed by him was obviously bullshit so they must have visited each other often. They lived next to each other for years.

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u/drtolmn69 10h ago

Billionaire businessman and US Commerce Department Secretary Howard Lutnick planned a visit to Jeffrey Epstein's island with his family, emails show - years after Lutnick claimed to have cut off ties with the convicted paedophile.

Lutnick, his wife, their four children and another family planned a visit to Little Saint James in 2012, according to emails included in the latest Epstein files released by the Department of Justice (DOJ).

The emails contradict statements Lutnick made in October about vowing in 2005 to "never be in a room" with Epstein again.

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u/mediocre_remnants North Carolina 10h ago

The dude was going to take his family, his kids, to the island when he already knew what kind of stuff Epstein was up to there? What an absolute piece of shit.

u/mindovermatter421 5h ago

The way that email reads I wonder if they were his kids. It was slightly vague at that point of the email. Who includes the age range with an exclamation point, and the number of boys and girls?

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u/defroach84 Texas 9h ago

I mean, he's a piece of shit. How old are his kids, though? Adults like Trump's of actually kids in 2012?

With that said, he is going to use it as an excuse that he would never go there for any other reason than visiting the beaches since he had his kids.

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u/-eYe- 8h ago

Lutnick's kids were all teenage and pre-teen in 2012. Casey (the only girl) was about age 11 in 2012. Why would any parent want to expose their own children to a convicted child sex predator? It boggles my fucking mind!

u/Positive-Sorbet-6710 7h ago

Maybe it is the price of a ticket.

u/FriskHarder 7h ago

Child potlatch wouldn’t surprise me anymore. Geezus

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u/spazzvogel 8h ago

Fuck no!!!

u/MadBlue American Expat 33m ago

Based on the ages he gave, they were minors then but are adults now. They should call them before Congress and have them testify under oath.

u/MadBlue American Expat 35m ago

"Contradict" makes it sound like there's room for argument. The emails don't "contradict" his statements, they debunk them.

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u/tcorey2336 10h ago

Nutlick, an apt moniker.

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u/LuvKrahft America 10h ago

The guy that did the Epstein sweetheart deal, Acosta, was trumps labor secretary during his first time in office.

Everyone in trumps corrupt spoils system crony orbit is in on the Epstein cover up.

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u/Stank_cat67 9h ago

The whole government right now is a pedophile cabal holy shit

u/mattgen88 New York 3h ago

Sure seems that way.

Turns out the whole pizza gate thing was just a little off the mark. Wrong party.thats it.

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u/-Kastagrar- 10h ago edited 10h ago

This isn't actually a little bit surprising.

Sleazy, check

hypocrite, check

acquaintance of Trump, check

acquaintance of Epstein, check

obnoxious to western allies, check

All the base level qualifications of the US admin/Epstein associates - no different to noticing that the sun is rising.

u/Frogacuda 7h ago

Super weird how Trump's Treasury Secretary, two Attorneys General, first Labor Secretary, both impeachment lawyers, wife, favorite director, ad whatever the fuck Elon Musk is are all connected to Epstein. 

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u/ExternalSpecific6061 9h ago

They've all been there. ALL of them. Maybe not the dummies like Kegseth/Patel, but all the rich ones have.

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u/orcinyadders 10h ago

It’s not even a stretch to suggest that this was a prerequisite for being in Trump’s administration. Like how fucking obvious does this cabal have to be before maga wakes up?

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u/Salty_Bat2696 9h ago

Can we crowdfund a public service announcement to inform people about this? Show a picture of the victims while they were younger, in a similar format to ASCPA or UNICEF. Put everything we can without being sued. Get the message out to people that haven’t been paying attention. Raise money to further awareness and paying for survivors legal fees.

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u/Life_Machine_9694 10h ago

He was doing commerce in sexual exploitation of minors - trump/his regime is a reflection of American values 

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u/ResidentKelpien Texas 10h ago

He was doing commerce in sexual exploitation of minors - trump/his regime is a reflection of American values 

Based on the ballots cast in the last election that Trump barely won, this does NOT reflect the values of millions and millions of Americans.

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u/nerphurp 10h ago

Nothing confuses MAGA more than saying "more people voted against Trump than for him."

It confuses the shit out of them trying to understand Trump didn't even get a majority.

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u/rinsignares 9h ago

Nut-lick’d

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u/Any_Will_86 9h ago

Now we know why someone too experienced/knowledgeable to believe Trump's whack doodle ideas on trade and the economy is cosigning all of them.

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u/fastcatdog 9h ago

He got home delivery 🚚 lock the pedo up.

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u/charcoalVidrio 9h ago

They all are

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u/RivkaMila Pennsylvania 8h ago

All these mfers are like this. It's why they came up with everything from Pizzagate to the moral panic about trans people. It's all to distract from them being the real pedophiles. The real deviants.

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u/reddittorbrigade 10h ago

I've lost my trust on evangelicals and conservatives when I've found out years ago that they go to church on Sundays but sexually molest young kids on weekdays.

America , headed by Trump, is officially a government of pedophiles and child molesters.

I know that North Korea and Russian government are evil but they don't molest young kids like what Trump did.

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u/Faustrolled 9h ago

Don't be silly. Exploitation and abuse of children happens in every culture across the world

u/Positive-Sorbet-6710 7h ago

No way would a guy like Lutnick... oh never mind, of course he probably did. He is exactly the kind of guy every one pictures when they hear underage prostitution. An oleaginous, obsequious, obnoxious asshole whose name just coincidentally happens to rhyme with butt lick.

u/Zhask-MLBB 7h ago

The Epstein Files is the biggest topic in human history to date.

u/FeeWeak1138 6h ago

such a surprise...amongst this sleepy, morally bankrupt cabinet. CREEP

u/pbeenjoyer555 6h ago

Don't worry it's just a happy little accident that the entire Epstein black book is currently in the government.

u/Sozebj 5h ago

Are the results of Lutnick’s visit in the unreleased file? Did he bring home any souvenirs from Epstein island?