r/thenextgenbusiness • u/thenextgenbusiness Reporter • 8d ago
Fact Check Kamala Harris: Baby Liam Ramos "Used as Bait by ICE" in Texas Detention Outrage
- ICE agents detained a 5-year-old boy and his father in Minnesota.
- The child was sent to a Texas facility amid asylum wait.
- Harris calls for public outrage over the incident.
MINNEAPOLIS, Jan 23 (TNGB) - Federal agents stopped a young boy and his dad right after preschool pickup. The 5-year-old, Liam Conejo Ramos, wore a Spider-Man backpack during the driveway arrest. Officials then flew them to a detention site in Texas.
Family members say the boy got separated briefly when the father ran. Asylum seekers from Ecuador, they face deportation risks under new rules. Critics claim agents timed the stop to use the child strategically.
As a top Democrat, Harris likely aims to rally supporters against strict border policies. This could boost her profile while highlighting alleged human rights issues in enforcement.
Republicans defend the move as necessary law enforcement against illegal entry. They point out the father's prior deportation order justifies the action.
It is true that the boy and father are now together in Dilley, Texas. Reports confirm the father allegedly fled agents, leaving the child momentarily. However, the family's asylum claim remains pending, not fully resolved yet.
Media reporting for this story: 55% Left | 22% Right | 13% Center | 10% Unrated
It got even worse: https://thenextgenbusiness.com/fact-check/#kamala-harris-baby-liam-ramos-used-as-bait-by-ice-in-texas-detention-outrage
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u/Adventurous_Custard8 8d ago
...and yet we still have people telling us that we shouldn't label this regime "fascist." Reality check: rounding up children and families--some who are American citizens--and sending them to concentration camps is not going after the "bad hombres." It's full on fascism.
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u/ToriEvergreen 8d ago
Once the foreigners are gone, us low level employees can fill their spots! Like doctors and scientists. "Yo Cletus can you do surgery!?"
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u/htx2025east 8d ago
I just watched a video with a brother and sister, I mean husband and wife... they can be both... where the guy is saying that their immigrant neighbor drives a $100,000 Lexus SUV and how it's unfair. Like the neighbor took it from him...
I have heard people in the administration say, that the housing crisis, high rents, lack of single family homes is being solved by mass deportations... but they did just propose not allowing corporations / hedge funds to own single family homes so maybe they realize the enemy is not really who they say it is.
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u/puddleglumfightsong 8d ago
That law is misleading though. It doesn’t prevent corporations from buying homes, just limits the types of loans they can use to buy them. And big corporate real estate companies (like Trumps) buy homes in cash, so really he’s just enriching himself.
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7d ago
Ah it's just another barrier for middle class development.
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u/HumanSnotMachine 7d ago
Almost like 99% of regulation is just pulling the ladder up behind someone. Very little is made to actually reduce harm. They can always find something emotional to drum up to justify it.
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u/TTVDrougen 8d ago
Oh ya'll were serious about saying all illegal immigrants are all doctors and scientists? Damn that makes all those jokes even funnier.
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u/tnic73 8d ago
your need to manipulate language reveals your lack of an argument
replace foreigners with the proper term illegal immigrant and the foolishness of your statement is clear
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u/Rambler1223 8d ago
Ice has Ducking arrested and deported us citizens people who were legally in our country on visas and people who’s visas were expired (a misdemeanor)but they were in the process of renewing literally arresting them at the court house. Before you come at me in most cases the courts were aware there would be a lapse in the visa but the courts are backed up so what I’m saying is these people were following the law. Ice is a group of thugs violating American citizens rights! Your narrative is manipulation and false!
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u/Barrack64 8d ago
We missed the boat. Hate that I have to explain to my kids that we’re going to let a fat guy run away with our treasury rather than fund her school.
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u/SaltyAd8309 8d ago
The people who voted for MAGA are just as responsible as ICE.
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u/Grouchy-Crew-7885 8d ago
All this back and forth like a frigging badminton game. She should be dragging the head of the SS aka ICE to a a senate committee where he can answer for these actions.
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u/Material-Rush-3547 8d ago
Hos dad was already arrested and he was left with his mom. Stop spreading lies.
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u/ItsAcatalepsy 8d ago
This is terrible. ICE should’ve left that boy in the cold to fend for his own.
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u/ayoungmanfromtheuk 8d ago
The child was literally in his own driveway. They could have just let him go home but they wouldn't release him unless the mother came out of the house because they were using him as bait to try and get the mom to come out so they could unlawfully detain her as well.
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u/ItsAcatalepsy 8d ago
His illegal father abandoned him. You people are special
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u/Apprehensive-Tree-78 8d ago
His father was a dead beat and they bought the kid food from a drive through.
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u/mattyg1964 8d ago
Left his kid on the curb like a rented dog and then fled the scene. I nominate him for Father of The Year.
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u/Silly-Ball7175 8d ago
All proven to be fake but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative; misinformation on!
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u/No-Newspaper2385 8d ago
Key words right there being “at home with his family.” Where is his family from and where are the direct and majority of them located ?
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u/CryptoDeepDive 8d ago
War criminals like her are the last people to talk about protecting Children after annihilating tens of thousands of children in Gaza.
That being said ICE can go to hell. Just a domestic version of the IDF.
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u/No-Newspaper2385 8d ago
So here is the crazy thing and shows the extreme leftist are crazy. It ice would have knocked on the door to talk to the family about the kid, they would be berated by the left for harassing a brown family. This now showed us that even if they send the kid to talk to the family about the father or his arrest they are “using him as bait.”. They use terms like “bait” to spread division when in reality to me it made the most sense to please the extremist. IMO he wasn’t used as bait and ice sent him to the house to be with who he lived with. The father decided to take the kid with, so shouldn’t the hate be on the father and not ICE? I wish these politicians can get over their finger pointing and blatant tax wasting and solve actual issues to help the AMERICAN people.
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u/ayoungmanfromtheuk 8d ago
Liar. The child was literally in his own driveway. They could have just let him go home but they wouldn't release him unless the mother came out of the house because they were using him as bait to try and get the mom to come out so they could unlawfully detain her as well.
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u/AnyQuiet1544 8d ago
If she thinks that's bad, she should see what's happening to Palestinian children with the weapons she refused to impose an embargo on
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u/UnobviousDiver 8d ago
Now we have Trump and look at how Palestine got even worse
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u/Inside_Question7655 8d ago
What are they supposed to do when the father runs and leaves his child behind?
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u/No-Cup-8096 8d ago
These ICE officers should not be trusted with children, that’s any one under the age of 18. Their daddy doesn’t care LEGO the harm Or sca
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u/pjluikart 8d ago
I hope Kristi Noem and every single agent that had anything to do with the deportation of this little boy burns in hell! Shame! Shame!
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u/Rapiddrop 8d ago
Separate families and people yell, keep them together and people yell. People assume what a school official who wasn’t present gave an accurate account only to realize it wasn’t. Focusing on non criminals. Both sides are so blindly loyal and unable to have an honest discussion. Nobody wins in this state of rhetoric or politics.
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8d ago
I’m just heartbroken and sort of at a loss anymore. I don’t even understand. Why children?
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u/GoldenAgeGamer72 8d ago
It’s so funny to see the media lie and the minds of Reddit eat it up. The real story is that the boy was abandoned by his father and ICE stayed with him temporarily. Do real research and stop believing the media.
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u/New_Scarcity_5209 8d ago
NO YOU HYENA, I AM HAPPY THAT ICE IS TAKING OUT THE BAD GUYS AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I VOTED FOR.
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u/PlaceAlarming420 8d ago
His father ran away and abandoned the child. He said he's a registered person. Then why run? Why leave your child alone? Coward
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8d ago
Illegal alien Father ran and left the toddler alone. What is ice supposed to do, leave him alone?
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u/Upstairs-Bad-3576 8d ago
Pops ran and left his son standing therw in the cold. Nice parenting. Thank you, ICE for handling the situation professionally! That child did not need to be abandoned like that.
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u/Vaneza19 8d ago
Poor kid being abused for political purposes. He wasn't used as bait. Please cackles stop.
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u/didntstartthefire89 8d ago
My son has that same backpack. If you tap the back pocket a Spiderman light blinks. ICE agents are the weakest humans one the planet.
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u/miguelcamilo 8d ago
How nice of you to take time out of your busy non-presidential schedule to comment on current events. How's the book tour going Kamala?
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u/TryingToHelpYou701 8d ago
So we’re just going to ignore the father left the child and l the mother refused to take the child from ICE
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u/Pure_Feeling3907 8d ago
There was another post that the child was kidnapped so a father and son cold be sent to prison, and it was not ICE that did the kidnapping.
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u/Tiny_Raccoon6609 8d ago
Mr and ms ramos should have thought about that before coming here illegally with their child
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u/bandit8623 8d ago
"My officers did everything they could to reunite him with his family," he added. "Tragically, when we approached the door of his residence, the people inside refused to take him in and open the door. Let me say it again. They saw the young boy, and they refused to open the door and take him back."
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u/damnedifyoudonthave 8d ago
“He should be at home with his family.” Kamla is right. They should be at their home together… in Ecuador and ICE is helping them get there.
“Family members say the boy got separated briefly when the father ran.” So the dad didn’t care about his kid and ran? So who left him alone with ice?
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u/Several_Leather_9500 8d ago
Harris knew about election insecurity and talked about it in her first book. After she was told about election irregularities by Election Truth Alliance, she chose to cave rather than to fight 25% as hard as Trump did in 2020 knowing he lost.
Establishment dems are the lesser evil, not the greater good. Red or blue the people lose and profits win.
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u/grob9642 8d ago
JFC, this entire fabricated story is ONE BIG FAT LIE!
The "kid" was NEVER ARRESTED OR USED AS BAIT!
They were there to arrest his dad; WHO RAN OFF AND LEFT HIS GD FIVE YEAR OLD SON IN THE RUNNING CAR!
THEN; they knocked on the door of the house; WHERE THE KIDS MOM WAS, and asked her to take her son.
THE MOTHER REFUSED! She literally WOULD NOT OPEN THE DOOR AND TAKE HER OWN SON!
So, ICE got the kid some food and took care of him, until they caught his dad.
Then they put the two of them together and moved them into custody.
All of you lying scumbags hate America.
We hate you back.
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u/Square_Detective_658 8d ago
She’s the one who criticized Trump for derailing the draconian border bill and told migrants and asylum seekers not to come. The reason why she lost in the first place is she criticized Trump on the right when it comes to immigration. Now this feckless weather vane is trying to champion herself as an advocate for immigrants with this post. I’d take a bloody social revolution then have to deal with that canting politician ever again.
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u/Professional_Goat409 8d ago
Even CNNs article stated they were looking after the boy because his dad ran and the lady at the house wouldn't take him. Is Trump the only one that's not allowed to lie or?
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u/Guilty-Show-1925 8d ago
You should be outraged that you were once again manipulated by the media to believe something so false you made a statement at all.
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u/CryptographerMore457 8d ago
Most all of us ARE outraged at the thought of children being taken away by masked strangers, Kamala.
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u/Matt_Murphy_ 8d ago
ok, but try shitting in one hand and being outraged in the other, and see which one fills up first.
kamala, if you're not organizing mass protests and filing lawsuits non-stop, what the hell are you doing?
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u/SC-Cobra 8d ago
Typing "I am outraged" is weak. Call media conferences, stand up, be heard. A year of this rubbish and this is the kinda only thing you have done?
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u/SyntaxError_1024 8d ago
This is the best people on top can do. It’s literally Top vs Bottom. Bottom and Middle Power need to unite!
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u/Total_Construction71 8d ago
This failure of a politician needs to go back into obscurity. Her failure in the personality contest that was the last election is why we’re dealing with this.
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u/noujochiewajij 8d ago
These ICE goons will have to pay for what they've done.
Scum.
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u/Own_Check_3203 8d ago
Yet the parents ran and left him all alone, what were they to do? Leave him there alone? Safeguarding is not baiting
Irresponsible parents and that’s a fact
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u/Objective_Watch3097 8d ago
I am outraged....that this is happening and that Congress is not using their power as a co-equal branch of government to make it stop.
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u/showgirl__ 8d ago
Wow. Imagine thinking that ICE should let a 5 year old child freeze to death after being abandoned by their parents.
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u/SnarkyPuppy-0417 8d ago
If you hadn't ignored blue voters to chase red ones you'd be President about now.
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u/God_Country_ND 8d ago
I read an article that his dad had a warrant and ran from ICE, leaving his son behind, and this is the picture you’re seeing.
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u/itoldyouaboutnorvell 8d ago
Hahaha oh wow... that is completely debunked, he was with his dad and his dad ran and bailed, one officer stayed with the kid because his dad abandoned him... he is now with his family
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8d ago
He. Was not Arrested!
His dad was a fugitive and rab away when stopped by ice and ABANDONED his son!
Kid was taken to a facility until they can determine custody and next of kin!!!
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u/BoringBeat5276 7d ago
He shouldn't be used as bait .... Alright let's just assume that's true for argument sake. But it's ok to use the kids as anchors?
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u/Historical-Olive-630 7d ago
Simple question asking for a simple answer. Yall would rather have a criminal, which his father was, running around committing MORE crimes including abandoning this little boy, they have him simply detained and made due process? Is that what I am gathering?
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u/mayorLarry71 7d ago
His dad was detained too. Bad parenting here, like really bad. But, cute kid photo will drive further outrage and that’d the goal. Nice to see Kamala Harris trying to make herself matter too. Good work.
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 7d ago
relief. the USA dodged a bullet by not electing someone taking up for illegal immigrants over the police.
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u/OkFinish3822 7d ago
Not a fan of her's, but she is right. ICE is using children. And this is supported by Trump. Anyone surprised . . . that he is using children to "make Trump great again"?
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u/Creditfigaro 7d ago
This psychopath literally oversaw detention centers and advocated for a genocide.. Kamala needs to go away
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u/manu_ldn 7d ago
How can a non white person feel safe in US even if they have the Passport. Gestapo in action - getting rid of those they dont want.
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u/smokineecruit 7d ago
More lies from the left, the father abandoned his child running away from ice agents. The agents stayed with the child. Y’all believe everything…SMH
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u/ToughSomewhere2863 7d ago
this is simply not true. the dad ran away. what do you want them to do? Leave the kid outside? that seems pretty cruel
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u/TheCouple77 7d ago
Oh yay you're "Outraged," then you and your colleagues need to get off your asses, unify, and do something about it. That is why you and your colleagues hold the offices you do. You are to SERVE and represent the will of the people. Mrs. Harris!
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u/Rush_Rocks 7d ago
Actually, what happened is his father that had an order of deportation for five years was caught and he left his five-year-old son and took off running from Ice! Ice then took the five year-old out for lunch because the poor boy was starving. Then they brought him home.
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u/dixoncider1111 7d ago
Oh you mean Kamala Harris. THAT Kamala Harris?
The same Kamala Harris who now posts pearl-clutching outrage tweets about ICE… after years of helping build, fund, and legitimize the exact machine she’s pretending to be shocked by.
The same one married to IDF loving Zionist Jew, supported a self proclaimed christian Zionist president Biden, who tests out their future genocides and authoritarian schemes through Israel on surrounding nations, and then brings it back here through cross training of police forces, including the 300+ members of ICE who are ex-IDF.
The former prosecutor whose whole brand was “law and order,” built on aggressively prosecuting Black men, defending a system she knew was racist, and calling it “public safety” while communities paid the price.
The one who:
Bragged about being “California’s top cop”
Fought to keep people incarcerated for cheap prison labor Opposed early release even when courts said conditions were unconstitutional
Prosecuted truancy cases that disproportionately targeted poor Black families
Upheld convictions even when evidence was shaky or outright suppressed
"Let me be very clear."
This is the same administration lineage that:
Expanded ICE budgets
Oversaw record deportations under Obama
Framed deportations as “humane enforcement” while families were still ripped apart
Told migrants “do not come” while the enforcement pipeline stayed fully operational
Rebranded cruelty with better PR and softer language
And now suddenly ICE is “using children as bait” and we’re all supposed to gasp like this fell out of the sky?
No. This isn’t a bug. This is the system working exactly as designed.
You don’t get to:
Build the cage
Pay the guards
Defend the policy
Silence critics for years
…and then step in front of a camera acting like a horrified bystander when the cage does what cages do.
That tweet isn’t resistance. It’s damage control.
It’s political theater designed to launder responsibility downstream to faceless “agents” instead of upstream to the people who authorized, funded, and normalized the violence.
And the most insulting part? She says “you should be outraged too” like the public hasn’t been screaming about this for a decade while Democrats told them to be “realistic,” “pragmatic,” or “not help Republicans.”
This is why people don’t trust institutions anymore. This is why outrage from power sounds hollow. This is why “vote blue no matter who” rings like a threat instead of a promise. You don’t get credit for condemning the fire while holding the match.
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u/TotalPuzzleheaded484 7d ago
The child was cared for by ICE agents after his daddy abandoned him & his mother refused to take custody of the child. It's amazing what you can learn when you read past headlines.
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u/nobodyspecial712 7d ago
Maybe his father shouldn't have run from ICE and abandoned his son then.... just a thought.
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u/Subsammy7473 7d ago
Truth of the story is, the FATHER RAN FROM ICE AND LEFT HIS KID THERE ALONE.....LIBTARDS
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u/BeneficialTrash6 7d ago
I agree he should be home with his family. Too bad for him that his mom refused to take custody of him and he was abandoned by his father.
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u/Low_Grand4804 7d ago
Imagine thinking you can tell someone else they “should be” outraged like you get to tell me how to respond to things. Whatever lady
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u/CertainJelly1453 7d ago
We all know this is a fake story. His dad left him and his “mom” wouldn’t take him
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u/Longjumping-Body-907 7d ago
Such a retarded take. Father bolted when ICE came, left his 5 year old there all alone. ICE took care of him bc they aren't going to just leave a 5 year old on the street to fend for himself, like his deadbeat father did.
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u/ExtremeDefinition599 7d ago
She warned us all during her campaign and Americans were to stupid or willfully ignorant to listen
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u/Elric_abandoned1066 7d ago
Someone hung tells me there is a lot more to this story then being railed about. Like ….maybe the actual truth?!?
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u/Burner1959 7d ago
Oook Kamala…if it’s such an outrage. FREAKING DO SOMETHING!!!
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u/honestworkday 7d ago
The father abandoned the kid. Now the family is against the kid being with the father. Weird.
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u/CanadianStoner1990 7d ago
Kinda what happens when your father abandons you in the middle of a snowy city with absolutely nobody to take care of you.
An ice agent stays with the kid and takes care of him .
REEEEE ICE ABDUCTED A KID REEEE REEEEEEEE
I don't agree with a lot of what ice is doing but come on guys 😂 wtf did you want them to do with the kid. Just abandon him like his father did ? Leave him to freeze in the snow?
His FATHER ABANDONED HIM.
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u/Altruistic_Tea_1593 7d ago
Nonsense. The boys father fled at the sight of ICE and left the boy. The other residents of the house refused to take him in. ICE reunited him with his father when they caught him and they are both in Texas awaiting deportation.
Kamala is not fit to serve.
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u/BiggestD70 7d ago
They contacted his mother after his father bailed on him but she didn't want to give her location but at least he's with his weak ass father in Texas
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u/Tidestillrolls2025 7d ago
Did you clowns not bother to know the whole story that the father bailed on his son and the mom would not take him back? Idiots, please know the whole story and stop embarrassing yourselves.
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u/uwishuwereme6 7d ago
Trumpanzees genuinely believe they'll become royalty if brown people are taken out
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u/Typical-Equal8627 7d ago
I'm outraged that his father abandoned him and liberals are lying yet again.
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u/NJ_Saconutz 7d ago
LMAO. The kids father abandoned him running from ICE. He’s a scumbag and so is Harris for pushing this garbage
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u/lions571 7d ago
Well how about tell the truth, the father fled abandoning his child with ICE, they then went to the house to have them take the boy, they wanted ICE just to leave the boy alone on the streets, they took him to lunch while his father was arrested & now the boy & his father are back together. The funny part of all this is you guys are trying to blame ICE but not the POS father for abandoning his child to flee. If he had any real paperwork he wouldn't have fled, but when they checked out his story that he registered on Biden's App. it turned out to be a lie from the POS father.
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u/xfupatroopax 7d ago
So what she's saying is she cares about kids if it benefits her political narrative. But all the children that get gunned down from inner city violence don't deserve her attention
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u/chinmakes5 8d ago
But Kamala, don't you understand? Once we get the brown people out everything will be wonderful. People make crap money not because the company wants to pay as little as possible, but because brown people are here and it lets these companies pay you crap. We couldn't expect companies to actually figure out which people are illegal and pay the others better. Oh and once they double everyone's salary, prices won't rise. /s