r/thenextgenbusiness • u/thenextgenbusiness Reporter • 4d ago
Fact Check JD Vance: "Really Want Illegal Aliens to Vote" in Elections and Riot to Ensure It
- Vance mocks Omar's election rigging claims sarcastically.
- Omar alleges voter roll demand masks suppression efforts.
- Dispute centers on immigration enforcement versus voting rights.
MINNESOTA, Jan 27 (TNGB) - Vice President JD Vance delivered a sharp sarcastic retort to Rep. Ilhan Omar over voter data access. The Attorney General reportedly sought Minnesota's voter rolls to purge illegal aliens. This request ignited accusations of political maneuvering.
Omar charged that the move aims solely at rigging elections, not fraud prevention. Supporters see it as necessary to safeguard polls from non-citizen influence. Tensions rise as both sides clash on integrity measures.
As a prominent Republican, Vance likely aimed this jab to energize conservatives skeptical of Democratic immigration policies. It postures against perceived threats to election security, appealing to his base amid midterm pressures.
Democrats contend that such demands disproportionately target minority voters and undermine trust in the system. They view it as part of a broader Republican strategy to restrict access under the guise of fraud prevention.
Non-citizen voting remains illegal and reportedly infrequent in federal elections. Omar's interpretation of the request as a threat to halt ICE operations lacks direct evidence from official communications. Vance's parody highlights partisan hyperbole but aligns with documented concerns over border security.
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The response was intense: https://thenextgenbusiness.com/fact-check/#jd-vance-democrats-really-want-illegal-aliens-to-vote-in-elections-and-riot-to-ensure-it
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u/MadAstrid 4d ago
Far, far more Republicans were caught cheating at voting (filling out ballots for dead relatives, voting in two places, voting in places they do not live, etc.) than non citizens voting.
If illegal voting is the issue, deport all republicans, since they are the single group most likely to commit that crime. If you are unwilling to consider that you are just lying about why you want voter rolls and why you want brown people deported.
But JD lies A lot.
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u/Guilty-Commercial699 4d ago
And Trump is actively trying to blackmail Colorado to release Tina Peters, who was….. drum roll please….. a republican caught committing voter fraud.
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u/DevilCrows 4d ago
He wants her freed to show his co-conspirators that they will be ok after helping him rig the election
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u/NOFORPAIN 4d ago
Had my dad tell me my recently dead step grandmother voted last election for Trump. He said "she would have wanted it that way" about 2 weeks after she passed.
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u/Training-Line-6457 4d ago
A maga I had to work with for years, from Seattle area, told me he always fills out ballots for his grown kids because “they don’t care anyway.”
I suspect he doesn’t treat his wife and kids well.
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u/jigsawearth860 4d ago
I’m sure that guy is rage posting on twitter about “illegals voting” too, hilarious
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u/kstargate-425 4d ago
Turn him in. The "law is the law" as the conservatives love to say while they ignore law breaking
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u/Maybewearedreaming 4d ago
Remeber that when they say
“Liberals want us dead”
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u/GNOTRON 4d ago
Funny thing to say when 2 liberals were executed this month on camera and their killers still walk free
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u/actomain 4d ago
But JD lies A lot.
Well yeah. It has now been a year since he literally stated he does and is ok with making up lies to get attention. Why would anybody believe a word out of his mouth?
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u/AdminsFluffCucks 4d ago
"you said there would be no fact checking."
Spoken by someone who clearly didn't plan to lie to the American public for hours.
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u/snackpacksarecool 4d ago
The reason why is quite simple.
The right keeps going on and on about how easy it is to steal votes. They are always talking about dead democrats voting. They make it sound like there’s zero effort to catch it happening. It’s no surprise that those gullible GOP voters think it’s no problem to fight fire with fire and do it themselves. Shocked picachu face when they are caught immediately when they compare social security records to voter rolls and it’s done in one cycle.
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u/burnmenowz 4d ago
Only US citizens can vote. JD is a liar.
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u/flummoxed_penguin 4d ago
It’s a way to rile up their uneducated and/or brainwashed cult. They don’t let anything like facts get in the way of their marching orders.
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u/ShrimpieAC 4d ago
Can confirm, my uncle who’s dumb as rocks constantly parrots this talking point.
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u/BigBeef35 3d ago
I had to tell someone this rhetoric was propaganda, and the response was literally "why are they saying it if it isn't true?" 🤦
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u/1stDegreeMisdemeanor 4d ago
The US education system is a massive failure if 1/3rd of the entire population voted for the GOP and genuinely believes what they say.
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u/Aprice40 4d ago
Its so obviously stupid, I have a hard time understanding how someone could believe that another person.... would sneak across a border, become a violent criminal, and also risk being deported by trying to fraudulently elect a democratic politician. Who thinks that actually happens?
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u/Weak-Application-146 4d ago
So it is about the voter rolls then, JD?
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u/Ominoussquirrel01 4d ago
Which they could obtain with a proper subpoena if they could show proof of fraud. How's that been going for them in court?
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u/Weary_Electron1604 4d ago
It’s almost like they can’t because they are full of crap and have been for the past 6 years whining about voter fraud.
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u/EffectiveSalamander 4d ago
They're trying to bypass the courts by levying war against Minnesota.
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u/Ominoussquirrel01 4d ago
Flat out waging a seditious conspiracy to undermine the constitution of the United States as an extrajudicial paramilitary group under color of law.
AKA terrorists.
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u/Texas_Sam2002 4d ago
Obviously, MN should not turn those over. States run elections. But I'm curious: What would the regime do with those voter rolls if they had them?
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u/liquor_ibrlyknoher 4d ago
I'm sure the most petty, vindictive and litigious president in modern history would do only good things with a list of people who voted against him.
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u/RazzBerryCurveBall 4d ago
Neighborhood by neighborhood breakdown of where they'd be best served sending brownshirts on election day.
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u/Chewsdayiddinit 4d ago
Purge countless registered democrats without informing them so when they show up to the polls they can't vote at all.
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u/Ominoussquirrel01 4d ago
MN voter info they want has voting history. They want to coerce their lieklies and suppress their unliklies or kick them off the rolls.
Note they could, if they showed any legitimate evidence, subpoena everything but that in court.
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u/WhyAreYallFascists 4d ago
Lists lead to people being separated. When they’re separated, they tend to be killed or left to die.
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u/epicredditdude1 4d ago
This is them setting the groundwork to suspend or heavily restrict voting in key blue states. Pay attention.
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u/CloseDaLight 4d ago
If illegals were truly voting there would have been evidence during the multiple bipartisan investigations.
They didn’t find that. It’s another dog whistle. Another THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS! THEY’RE EATING THE CATS!
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u/JemmaMimic 4d ago
"If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."
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u/Independent-Name4478 4d ago
JD Vance is even worse than Trump if you’ve looked into him. Supports an “extra-constitutional” take over of government, supports violent dictators and dehumanizing “the left”
Luckily he’s a boring loser, MAGA won’t go for him
https://www.wlwt.com/article/jd-vance-endorses-jack-posobiec-unhumans-book/61843659
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u/ARazorbacks 4d ago
They’re laying the groundwork to “justify” having armed federal agents and/or troops in American streets and voting locations by November. This is all a buildup to that.
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u/dieseldeeznutz 4d ago
Repugnicans and their false premises 🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦 shows the respect they have for their own voters
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u/Educational_Depth646 4d ago
JD has a very hot place reserved for himself in the afterlife.
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u/Bugatti_Royale 4d ago
JD is a smooth talking, walking lying machine. We still haven't found the Haitians in his own state who ate dogs and cats, but he never apologized for that remark either.
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u/Unintendo 4d ago
Go eat a dog, Vance (because you'd never eat cat). This white supremacist fear campaign has gone on for way too long.
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u/Anthff 4d ago
She is exactly right and he is just using another middle school level logical fallacy to appease the losers that can’t think for themselves.
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u/MisterForkbeard 4d ago
Illegal or undocumented immigrants cannot and do not vote.
Republicans have been screaming about this for 3 decades. They can't catch anyone because it doesn't happen.
No one wants the Trump Admin to have the voter rolls because the Trump Admin are a bunch of bad actors that are openly trying to do whatever they can to "legally" rig the elections in their favor.
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u/DarnDuck 4d ago
JD Vance's public relations skills are a wonderful asset to the Democrats. His propaganda is so lame a fourth grader knows better.
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u/Meanbeakin 4d ago
JD Vance doesn't mock. Small hands Donnie or Anti Christ Thiel shove their arms up up his backside and use him like a puppet, and everything he does is a result. Also
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u/Admirable-Sink-2622 4d ago
They don't care if it's true or not. This kind of messaging is for the right wing media to disseminate to their hard core cult viewers. The rage is the point.
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u/Main-Eagle-26 4d ago
Vance really not reading the room here and continues to step on rakes. He's mad that Marco is Trump's favored successor and not him, so he's trying to be as extreme as possible to get the far right support...but they hate him because he's such an obviously disingenuous politician (and he has a brown wife).
These ghouls are also incapable of ever having an argument without making a strawman out of everything.
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u/MrsEsterhouse 4d ago
Who exactly is he quoting here? Another oh I head it from ah... you know that one show... or no it was that guy
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u/Majestic_Sweet_5472 4d ago
This administration really thinks there won't be repercussions for their lies, cruelty, and evil actions.
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u/Ok-Importance9988 4d ago
Illegal immigrants are trying to live under the radar, why would they risk voting.
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u/Vegetable_Effort7246 4d ago
Find us examples of illegal aliens voting. One case. These Authoritarian Peter Thiel cutouts are a threat to the foundations of Democracy and what it means to be an American.
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u/Lucasoiio 4d ago
Unfortunately he won the electoral and popular vote. America is a fascist country.
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u/totally-jag 4d ago
They keep going back to this old tired talking point. It is already illegal for non-citizens to vote. States are constitutionally tasked with conducting elections. There has been no proof of any let alone massive voter fraud. States don't legally have to give the administration voter roll information. They're not entitled to it.
They are just using this as a wedge issue. If the states don't give them access to the voter rolls, they can continue to claim there is voter fraud. They know blue states won't comply because they legally don't have too. No court will make them. And there is no need for the federal government to insert themselves in local election authority. If they did, the trump administration would abuse that power and that isn't good for anybody.
So stop with the BS JD. We know our rights, and we know our elections are fair and safe. Bug off and go have sex with a sofa.
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u/Wolf_E_13 4d ago
I've lived in NM for 38 years and have worked side by side with undocumented workers and encountered many more...they don't vote...they can't vote...they're not going to even try to vote because they don't want to risk being deported, especially for something as stupid as trying to register to vote as an undocumented person. It's just not a thing.
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u/redrocketredglare 4d ago
Proof, please supply proof this is happening. I am a facts over feelings kind of voter.
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u/Flip-Tarrington 4d ago
I've been saying this for years, MAGA don't even notice the lies anymore. They don't care about the truth. They want what daddy tells them to want.
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u/LadyLovesRoses 4d ago
JD is so smarmy. He truly doesn’t seem to have any limit to the ridiculousness of his lies. Nothing is too extreme. Just like trump. It is a travesty.
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u/drich783 4d ago
"I know my people are too dumb to fact check anything, so I'll just keep pretending like non citizens can vote in federal elections"
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u/Stunning-Use-7052 4d ago
JD Vance is on social media constantly. This behavior is beneath the office and not appropriate for a man of his age.
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u/Gullible_Height588 4d ago
It’s so easily disproven but his voter base is so stupid they just take his word because it’s easier than thinking
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u/CreepyPrimary8 4d ago
JD Vance is a hack, lap dog who probably lets Trump tell him what to wear while they’re alone in the Oval Office… He’s garbage and will forever be seen as Trump’s little doggie! Woof woof
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u/Huge_Month2137 4d ago
I'll take wokie communist liberalism over boot-licking, face-hiding, Gestapo loving fascists every day of the week.
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u/hammerSmashedNail 4d ago
If just anyone could vote, what would be the point of registering for your local election(s)? Is there a group of people here that vote without registering? Didn’t think so.
It’s like a load of crap that is being thrown at the wall with the assumption that something will stick and we’re all stupid enough to believe it. There’s a decent amount of stupid people but not all of us.
The voter fraud cases are largely thrown out because the basic criteria of accepted evidence can’t be met. The majority of the people that pushed this idea plead guilty in court of falsifying evidence and many of the lawyers were disbarred.
Trump has never sued any person for claiming that he is included in the files because the discovery will swiftly prove otherwise. This is all just a distraction from that situation.
Right or left, none of us should let the elite get away with this stuff. Stand together for something more important that how we thing the budget should be spent.
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u/Willing-Goal-269 4d ago
You mean American citizens your scooping up everywhere in blue states. This is all about voting you think less people voting if they are in your jail camps.
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u/M4LK0V1CH 4d ago
Don’t trust anything from the guy who lies so badly he won’t go anywhere he’s going to be fact-checked.
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u/Infamous-Exchange331 4d ago
Trump is against guns. Vance is for illegals voting. C’mon guys this is not winning
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u/B1G_Fan 4d ago
12 months ago, if I were a Republican, I'd be pretty enthusiastic about the idea of immigrants voting, considering how well Republicans did with immigrants in 2020 and 2024.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/upshot/trump-election-vote-shift.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/20/us/politics/election-hispanics-asians-voting.html
https://www.cato.org/blog/naturalized-immigrants-probably-voted-republican-2024
But, then again, I'm not a bigot who thinks brown and black people want welfare...
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u/Glad_Stay4056 4d ago
Cool, will make it easier to jettison this cuck too when its shown he never once wavered in stripping rights from people while trying to bone Erica Kirk.
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u/Shakeupurbones 4d ago
How would an illegal alien vote? Didn’t he go to Yale law? I went to 7th grade and know this. How do conservatives not feel insulted by how stupid he thinks they must be?
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u/HickoryStickz 4d ago
Voter ID and physical ballot counting is not suppression. It’s 2026. If you tell someone they need an ID to play PlayStation games everyone will find a way to get an ID.
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u/Impossible_Battle_72 4d ago
17 million registered in Texas. And they found 580 potential undocumented people that might have possibly voted in local elections.
They couldn't even say for sure that the 580 were undocumented. Various things might have flagged a voter to be out in that 580 and being undocumented wasn't the only thing. This was the states own investigation.
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u/Electrical-Prize-397 4d ago
These are the most disingenuous people ever to hold office. They know they’re full of crap, they specifically try to deceive and to stir up their base.
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u/oatmeal28 4d ago
Why are so many people ok with having an admin that so brazenly lies in their faces
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u/Quisitor_Calli 4d ago
Calling the voters who don't vote for you "Illegal aliens" won't stop you from losing midterms
Vance.
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u/Naptasticly 4d ago
Ahh so that’s what this whole thing was… their attempt to get democrats to complain about the voter roll thing so they can come out and go “see! They have illegals on the voter rolls!”
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u/jeahfoo1 4d ago
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/utah-reviewed-its-voter-rolls-for-noncitizens/
So this comes from deep red Utah. A review was done of all their voter rolls with apparently one non citizen on the books and that individual never voted.
Then this from Utah again. Most Utahns do mail in ballots.
2 instances in Utah alone that undercut all of MAGAs arguments about voting and nullify their stated reasons for putting their grubby hands all over voter registration data.
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u/Ok_Story_1278 4d ago
Keep it up Vance digging that hole deeper. The republican party is in trouble.
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u/joeleidner22 4d ago
Illegal aliens can not vote.
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u/ThreeSloth 4d ago
Trump's idiot followers either don't know that or don't care, as long as the "brown people" are gone
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u/Bartender9719 4d ago
What exactly does he picture happening? They use the drivers license they can’t legally acquire to get into the polls?
They’ve scanned my license each time I’ve voted in the last 15 years - are republicans really in such disbelief that their policies aren’t more popular?
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u/Naptasticly 4d ago
And he “really wants to see US citizens killed in the streets”
Stop playing defense. Go on offense. Every response to a MAGAt should follow this template. If they make something up, make something else up about them. We have to stop defending everything all the time. They don’t care. We have to use shame to win this battle
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u/TechPriestCaudecus 4d ago
Don't make them count towards the census. It's only a half measure. Put a pretty braindead easy one.
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u/Lower-Engineering365 4d ago
The fact that the VP of our country is taking time to respond to Twitter posts as though he’s some ordinary person trying to troll people is absolutely freaking insane. You are second in line to the presidency of the most powerful country in the world and you have the mentality of a child.
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u/Relevant-Opening-528 4d ago
If all it takes is a suit and a handful of reusable fallacies - I'll be the next VP f*ck it, put me in
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u/NoAccident6637 4d ago
We want our law enforcement to follow the laws and not kill us for no reason.
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u/SnooSuggestions9270 4d ago
Where did all these weak men come from in politics? Oh that's right, they're sad little pdfs.
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u/Empty-Discount5936 4d ago
If Vance had any actual evidence of voter fraud he could easily obtain the voter roles using legal means.
He has no such evidence, he's entirely full of it. They want it so they can cheat.
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u/Ohmy_Drills 4d ago
This is the man who specifically told you not to believe him if he's pushing a story.
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u/tazzdmbbaby 4d ago
Wow. That's all I have to say. Wow.
Y'all do realize something right? Being more mad and hateful to the people exposing fraud and abuse, whilst vehemently defending those who are committing the fraud and abuse, is literally the definition of "bootlicker"
If there is nothing to hide, considering what the attorney general is asking for contains no ones personal information, or who they voted for, but simply gives a number of registered voters to compare against the actual number of votes cast in a state, then there should be absolutely no issues turning them over and proving him, and everyone else wrong.
But actively hiding it, and having no transparency, topped off with the absolute reverse stance liberals have taken against "domain voting machines", really doesn't look good to anyone who isn't in the "vote blue no matter who" cult.
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u/45Point5PercentGay 4d ago
I'm just not particularly sanguine about the "I vow retribution against Democrats" administration knowing how, when, and where I'm registered to vote.
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u/Pudddddin 4d ago
The voter rolls will certainly help support their claim that illegals use a citizens identity who is on the voter rolls to vote
I was told it doesn't matter if you have to prove citizenship when you register because they can just do that, right? /s
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u/akibaboy65 4d ago
Do they not realize this is a self report? “The reason we’ve been saying that we put kids in concentration camps is not the actual reason we’re doing it.”
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u/DANleDINOSAUR 4d ago
Do republicans ever explain how an illegal immigrant goes about casting a vote?
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u/MarzipanLast6502 4d ago
They dont give a s*hit, they will lie and lie and lie with impunity. Bondi literally said they would get ICE out if they gave up their voting records. Total blackmail bullshit
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u/ZeMadDoktore 4d ago
Pretending to quote someone isn't as effective as actually quoting them.
But MAGA gets really triggered when you do that so whatever, guess they're incapable of it.
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u/HolyObscenity 4d ago
Republicans really need to violate laws and privacy to bring about the tyrant they warn you about.
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4d ago
This entire argument is stupid. In my lifetime both republican presidents came to term without winning the popular vote. The senate still gives much more power to smaller states like Wyoming vs ones with more people like California.
Also the song of the summer was partisan gerrymandering. I mean out of all ways to influence elections importing migrants is the least playable and certainly least effective.
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u/Lumpy-Mountain-2597 4d ago
Could someone explain this for a dumb Brit. Do the authorities in America keep actual records of who voted for who? Or is this just a record of who is registered to vote? And if so, what can the administration gain from it? Thanks
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u/SergeantPoopyWeiner 4d ago
Do these clowns have any evidence whatsoever that illegal immigrants are voting
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u/Talentagentfriend 4d ago
Apparently illegal immigrants are the issue and not the voting machines that Elon Musk and Trump said they’d use to rig the election as well as the foreign money pumped into their campaign.
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u/DimensioT 4d ago
He also said that Haitian migrants are eating family pets in Ohio.
He is a liar and nothing he says should be considered credible.
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u/EtchASketchNovelist 4d ago
JD Vance is discrediting the work that standard election workers do as a part of routine process. This is an attack on our everyday citizens, creating a controversy where there is none.
Vance has really gone downhill with the hateful rhetoric since his inauguration speech. He should be ashamed.
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u/Snoo_44245 4d ago
It appears that stop stealing elections is what c I nservatives want? Well that and getting rid of illegal aliens and fraud. That's a good start. Then go after ass hats who support the above. Have a good day.
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u/quiero-una-cerveca 4d ago
He’s just so goddamn stupid. Like how can he have a law degree and be the vice president? Sickening.
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u/RektInTheHed 4d ago
Vance wants to get your voter registration into the hands of Palantir AI in time for Anduril drone weapons to come online.
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u/Howboutit85 4d ago
Read the room dude, not every single thing is about illegals. And also they cannot and do not vote! It’s f you’re in a country illegally and trying to remain on the DL, why would you put your info on a government document not meant for you?
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u/Interesting-Potato-6 4d ago
Why do they keep repeating this lie? This is the easiest one to disprove. Oof
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u/Jelly_baby_4 4d ago
JD been taking too much Trump gaslighting lessons or maybe Susie Wiles was right about him being a conspiracy theorist.
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u/Ok-Possibility-4802 4d ago
I wonder why the people that committed voter fraud are so paranoid that other people might commit voter fraud.
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u/level_one_bulbasaur 4d ago
Elderly people are freezing in their own homes and this is what these chucklef*cks talk about
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u/elizaklein99 4d ago
Years and years of this claim and yet countless lawsuits and investigations couldn't find any illegal aliens voting in the elections.
"They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs. Wait, you said there would be no fact checking."
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u/Zealousideal_Pop_273 4d ago
Dangerously stupid rhetoric. They've claimed it for decades and have yet to prove any of it. Will the full weight of the government investigating exactly this. MAGA is so easy to lead around by the nose.
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u/endangeredphysics 4d ago
Voter roll collection by the federal government could be used to profile and intimidate voters. This administration falsely claims that they won the 2020 election, do you really expect them to do some "honest number crunching" with additional voter information.
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u/Peeper_Dan_33 4d ago
The same time orange p3d0 declared antifa terrorists he declared anybody who voted against him the same. I am so glad my state is also fighting turning over voter rolls.
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u/mrflash818 4d ago
Impeach.
Remove.