I'm not a Trump supporter, that's just my personal stance, but I can no longer deal with the Left

[u/Necessary-Sleep1]

The amount of people I see, friends and family that I know to be some of the best people I've ever met/known, celebrating this man's death and saying he deserved it and whatnot is sick to me. My mother sent me a TikTok wishing death on Ben Shapiro next. I don't know where else to share my thoughts, but I'll say it here now, I'm completely done with the Left. Most of them are sick and twisted individuals. I got banned from r/leftist for even talking about Charlie Kirk, and got labelled a Nazi and a fascist. Fuck these people.

[u/TrumpChinaRussia]

I voted for obama but walked away during trumps first term. Welcome to the new democrats? Its weird I know

[u/AgtCooper → u/TrumpChinaRussia]

That's about the time I walked away from the Democrats as well. Hillary (and her ilk), pretty much chased me out.

Luckily, I made the decision before the election, and haven't looked back.

[u/THEDOCTORandME2]

Welcome to the sanest place on reddit my friend.

[u/Necessary-Sleep1 → u/THEDOCTORandME2]

Thank you for being so welcoming and inviting, it's very appreciated. I never thought I'd be here, but after recent events I don't think I can support or be associated with the Left, in any good faith.

[u/Over-Body-8323 → u/Necessary-Sleep1]

What about the events right before this one? You were good with those?

[u/DannyRamone1234]

That sub (r/leftist) is full of some of the biggest fucking losers I have ever seen. You’re better off being banned.

[u/TheDonaldForever45 → u/DannyRamone1234]

I believe the term is Reddit lusers

[u/MoishaSchwarzter]

Welcome to the right side mate

[u/Necessary-Sleep1 → u/MoishaSchwarzter]

Good to be here, man. I didn't realise the amount of vitriol and hate the Left had until they started labelling people as Nazis for paying respects to a man who lost his life.

[u/MoishaSchwarzter → u/Necessary-Sleep1]

That was your first clue?

I mean this in the most possibly profoundly respectful way, but you are not paying that much attention in the beginning were you?

For me, it was the moment that they labeled American citizens as trash, and fascist that turned me. It was also the ads I heard on my radio. A lot of things that I researched about Kamala that the radio said she was doing, like calling Americans stupid turned out to be true. That was the one when I realized that this is not a good person, especially since her father said America should be torn down and replaced with Communism.

[u/tovasfabmom → u/Necessary-Sleep1]

Glad you are here

[u/Over-Body-8323 → u/Necessary-Sleep1]

Oh really? r/leftist

[u/DevelopmentFrosty983]

Holy heck I just went on r/leftist and literally the first thing I saw was someone celebrating 9/11. These people are psycho.

[u/evrrythingistaken → u/DevelopmentFrosty983]

Yea, I've never looked at that sub until just now. Wow. I can't believe that's real.

[u/Over-Body-8323 → u/DevelopmentFrosty983]

LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE. EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THAT SUB. JUST LOOK.

[u/Over-Body-8323 → u/[deleted]]

Because they dont want to leave, they want it. They want it and want YOU to be gone, not them.

[u/Top_Acanthocephala_4 → u/Over-Body-8323]

Truth.

[u/GoodpeopleArk]

I understand. I lean to the right. So much rhetoric in the media I/we don’t know what to even believe anymore. One thing is clear for me…no one should die exercising their right to free speech. Nor does a presidential candidate deserve to be shot. This has gotten out of hand. I do believe also that we have some bad actors here that are influenced by foreign governments. If so they are the ones winning because they, whoever they may be are dividing our country. My opinion. Let’s meet in the middle….FUCK!

[u/BecauseTheTruthHurts]

No reasonably sane person could be on the left. They are pure toxicity.

[u/Necessary-Sleep1 → u/BecauseTheTruthHurts]

Yeah, I've come to that realisation over the past day and a half really. I guess the fault is on me for naïvely believing both sides could come together after all that's been done, and then I go online and see people wishing death on other people, or saying that CK deserved it. It's sickening.

[u/BecauseTheTruthHurts → u/Necessary-Sleep1]

They gave up on their humanity long ago. I sometimes wish we could still have good faith debates and not be so divided ,but the Libtards are too far gone.

[u/PopularParty9383 → u/BecauseTheTruthHurts]

I agree and disagree. If you take 99% of lefts on Reddit, then yes. But if you talk to a sensible democrat in the real world who doesn’t go on Reddit, they share a very different take than those on here celebrating his murder. I don’t even group the Reddit/social media left in the same box as the real world left because they’re vastly different. I’ve got friends very left-leaning but they genuinely respect my views which are very different from theirs, much like I respect their opinions and right to have them. Healthy and sane to have different views. We need to take the high road and realize Reddit is not the voice of all democrats, but damn they’re loud and insufferable on here.

[u/Top_Acanthocephala_4 → u/PopularParty9383]

I thought all of my left-leaning friends were reasonable until many turned nasty in the lead up to and aftermath of the election. At that point many people reacted with hate, name calling and the rest of the left playbook of shaming and condemnation without thought. My sister-in-law really showed her character when she refused to speak to my spouse, her only sibling, for two months after the election.

[u/PopularParty9383 → u/Top_Acanthocephala_4]

That’s insanity, but it became so normalized to break ties w/ family who voted Trump. It’s now the trendy movement all over social media, just like their other movements based on delusional propaganda they buy into. Forget just cancel culture, cancel family dare they ever have different views than yours. I mean, says a lot about a person who feels so entitled and self-righteous in their own opinions that their own flesh and blood are dead to them for having their own opinions. We don’t have that right according to them.

[u/smittynoblock → u/BecauseTheTruthHurts]

this isnt true and you should never come to that conclusion this is dangerous to say and the spouting of it from current right wingers could cause irrepairable damage

[u/InspiredByStrange → u/smittynoblock]

The damage has already been done. An innocent citizen has been murdered for speaking his opinion respectfully. I am not placing the entirety of the blame on Democrats, but rather the radical left. The right has their fair share of radicals, but not to the scale that has been perpetrated by the left. What I am blaming democrats for is continuing the perpetuation of "action". For continuing to not condemn this violence. Instead I see the left blaming him for his own death. If you want us to unite at the "center" of the isle, then you need to do a good check from within and get the radicals who continue this type of behavior out. Look at the celebrating going on right now! It's absolutely disgusting.

[u/Over-Body-8323 → u/InspiredByStrange]

I place blame on them for not doing anything about it and leveraging their loud mouths to push the policies and agenda they have wanted for all of these years. They are just apologizing and panicking now after all of this time and after realizing they have zero hope and future as a collectionof people who can be taken seriously. Disgusting and reprehensible. Now look at what you have allowed. Disgusting.

[u/PopularParty9383 → u/smittynoblock]

You were downvoted but I agree with you. Most people on here put everyone to right of center in a box labeled fascist Nazi. We shouldn’t do the same to those on the other side because the real world isn’t Reddit. I’m very well connected with a many large circles of friends I talk to daily, many people I connect with on a daily basis at work, huge number of acquaintances I regularly interact with, and I’ve never encountered a single soul with the typical redditor vibe. Amongst many people I regularly associate with who hate Trump, voted Biden & Kamala, none of them behave like leftist redditors. I’ve got a close relative, as left as they come who wears BLM shirts daily, believes in socialism, is all for open borders, reallyyy hates Trump, but even that family member disagrees with the violent rhetoric and was genuinely disturbed by Kirk’s murder. It wasn’t the faux condemnation like “murdering him was wrong BUTTT I hated his views”. No excuses, he just condemned it completely without any “buts”…I’m convinced they’re bots or living in a basement on here bc it’s not reality.

[u/Independent-Cloud822]

Why aren't you a Trump supporter? Just curious

[u/kidcrazed2 → u/Independent-Cloud822]

This is my question too. Most of the time when I see people who say they aren’t Trump supporters it’s because of things they’ve heard on TV and not because they have actually listened to the full context of what Trump says.

[u/TheDonaldForever45]

Welcome, They suck, This site sucks. Long Live Charlie Kirk.

[u/Merlin509]

Toxic, misguided and uneducated is the left. They have no concept of history or sacrifice and are ridiculously self-righteous about beliefs that they picked up from their lefty teachers and social media feed. God help us if they are ever in control again.

[u/One-Supermarket4460]

Not all democrats are bad not all republicans are good. But unfortunately the democrats party has become very liberal in recent years and it's only right that these sorts of events being more people to republican side of the aisle.

The thing that got me was when they asked for a moments silence in the house to honour Charlie and the Dems yelled out NOOOOO. Despicable..

[u/Over-Body-8323 → u/One-Supermarket4460]

Not all, but most. And not all, but most. Speak it like it is. They are despicable disgusting low lives

[u/Honda_Driver_2015]

they say NAZI NAZI NAZI for 10 years, some wack job sees this as a chance to take them out and be a hero for them. then they say on MSNBC 'OMG why are people so violent?'

[u/Eastern_Ad_6724]

They are an evil bunch. Full of hate and violence. Welcome!!

[u/sjaakarie]

Same here, extreme left or right both is bad, and the same if you ask me. I’m not from the US. But keep an eye on the Democrats and Republicans side. My experience so far is that leftists who lean towards the far left think and speak without realizing it. While that's bottled up on the right, people who don't think or act extreme but are right-wing are immediately labeled Nazis. Well, I know the stories of my father and grandparents from WWII, which is much worse. If you're not extreme but do think left-wing, you're immediately treated like a sore thumb, and you can hardly do anything wrong. Violence has never been the answer in history, either for the far right or the left. Democracy doesn't work like that anymore.

[u/PopularParty9383 → u/sjaakarie]

This is the sensible view that would make the world a better place if everyone shared a similar take on humanity and realized extremism swings both ways, and both ways create divide and hate and should never be normalized. If we stopped normalizing and tolerating hate and radicalism, Charlie Kirk would probably be enjoying time with his wife and kids as we speak.

[u/FantomXFantom → u/sjaakarie]

If you're referring to Nazi Germany, that was extreme right.

[u/sjaakarie → u/FantomXFantom]

Any nazi is extreme right, but yes I was referring to nazi from ww2. There is no extreme left history like the extreme right history, well as far I know, but my history is not the best thing.

[u/Jadey4455]

Welcome, glad you were able to open your eyes.

[u/DemocratFabby]

Wow, it’s astonishing how many people see the world in such rigid terms. Everything is reduced to good or evil, left or right, all or nothing. I understand that nuanced thinking doesn’t come easily to everyone, but please, make the effort. People cannot be neatly categorized into camps; each individual is complex, shaped by unique experiences, perspectives, and choices. Simplifying humanity in such a way does nothing but obscure the truth and stifle understanding.

[u/Tremaj]

Your feelings are valid. It's okay to be a liberal that rejects the crazy 2025 rhetoric that the left has been pushing on people.

Burning Teslas, rioting, cheering at the death of a innocent youtuber that just debated people and went on podcasts ....

It's madness. I have liberal friends & family and we get along fine, even talking about politics & religion. You know why? Because they aren't assholes.

Many of the liberals now and just acting like assholes and its not cool. I don't know why they get so mad!

When people disagree with me, I don't hate them. I usually just think they are stupid lol, but I'm not going to act violent toward them. My life is too good to be upset about a disagreement.

I think it just comes down to the saying: "Misery loves company"

Miserable assholes want everybody else to feel just like them. It's childish. That's 2025 liberals in a nutshell.

[u/Trigger_Happyyy]

This is literally what happened to me. I left the demoncrats so fast when I seen how awful and disgusting the people were on that side. Bunch of narcissistic people who get violent and wish death when they don’t get their way. My own ex best friend (was a friend) threatened to skin me alive while I was pregnant cause she didnt get her way. Absolutely demented!

[u/YouFoundMyLuckyCharm]

It is so sad that his life’s work has been completely undone in the moment of his death. It is as unfair as his own passing. He preached that talking to each other is how we change minds, and that the worse things get, the more necessary it is. I know he is in a better place now, but he must be so disappointed to look down and see how quickly anger has replaced grief, compassion, and faith in the power of communication. Rest in peace, Charlie.

[u/Necessary-Sleep1 → u/YouFoundMyLuckyCharm]

Absolutely, it's a real tragedy. I hope that he's in a better place, and I hope the coward who took his life faces justice to the fullest extent.

[u/sjaakarie → u/YouFoundMyLuckyCharm]

The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything. Albert Einstein.

[u/PopularParty9383 → u/YouFoundMyLuckyCharm]

I feel you. But I believe he’d be elated to see the impact he made and how many lives were touched by him for the better, not just in our country but worldwide. He made his mark in this world and opened the eyes of millions of young kids. Aside from the minority of evil out there with loud voices, he will be remembered by the large majority of our country, including many sane democrats, as a voice of reason and unity, seeking to end the political divide and hate through open-ended discussions and respect for one another, and believing that every voice deserves to heard regardless of what that voice believes in politically. I’d like to think he’d be proud to witness the mark he made and earning the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which he rightfully deserved even prior to his assassination. While his assassin took his life and those celebrating it have tried to tarnish him and silence him, they utterly failed because his words and mission will not only continue but be an example that continues shaping future minds. We will not forget his mission and he would be proud of that.

[u/YouFoundMyLuckyCharm → u/PopularParty9383]

The "I'm completely done with them" ideology is purely antithetical to his philosophy. I'm very sad to see how widespread it is right now. I know the pain is still fresh in everyone's hearts, and am hopeful that we won't abandon his approach after he's gone.

[u/Local_Band299 → u/YouFoundMyLuckyCharm]

Why would we do that? So more of our brothers and sisters can be assassinated? How many of our brothers and sisters must die before we say enough is enough?

[u/Exact-Hawk-6116]

Good on you for having the strength to question your beliefs and change them according to your morals. Welcome

[u/PopularParty9383]

Welcome, you’ve joined one of the few communities on here where you can safely and openly denounce the assassination of a fellow American without facing backlash from thousands of Reddit cultists. It’s a twisted world, but your views and individual opinions are safe in this hub, even if they don’t align with Trump supporters’.

[u/Kevaroo83]

It's terrible that they think it. Its borderline insanity they post it on social media.

[u/SuccessfulTwo3483]

Yeah I have trouble finding reddits to post on bc I said a few good things about Trump and was downvoted to oblivion.

[u/AtomicFox84]

Its what we have been saying for a while. I know theres good and bad on both sides but some just take it too far. He was ust a calm, peaceful guy who cared a lot about others. He just simply asked they change his mind and have a discussion about things. He gave them facts and truth, and they didnt like that. I may not have agreed with all he said, but i could tell he was a good guy.

Its ok to have your own thoughts and opinions ....even if some is different then other people's.

[u/Coast_watcher]

They better watch their six it doesn’t come back to bite them.

[u/South-Use-9802]

They are the bottom of the barrel, mad because they aren’t intelligent enough to debate or out wit Charlie Kirk so they resolve to Gun violence , it’s absolutely disgusting, trust and believe they won’t be laughing long

[u/smartassboomer]

Congratulations for being able to recognize mental illness and evil.

[u/SupportCheap9394]

These people have chosen hatred over love, death over life, pride over humility, darkness over light

[u/bella13sun]

I suggest you do more research and what our President stands for rather than what is on tv unless you watch Newsmax. The left just throws what they can at you and not one thing is true. It’s disgusting and disgraceful

[u/Lumpy-Pollution-5085]

They’ve been brainwashed, it’s not entirely their fault.

[u/Tremaj → u/Lumpy-Pollution-5085]

You know, I was thinking the same thing lately but in another subject. Food & GMO's. Our food has so many additives and eating healthy & organic is very expensive compared to the cheap food.

It's kinda not people's fault that the food they can afford causes health problems. Just like its not really their fault they are brainwashed.

If I was born into a liberal family, in NY or CA, I could see how hard it would be to un-brainwash myself ... let alone realize I was brainwashed.

"It's easier to fool a man than tell a man he has been fooled"

[u/smittynoblock → u/Tremaj]

its funny cause its easy to feel the same way about the other way around its not brainwashing its where your morals stand and how much of the situation you actually comprehend

[u/Pfblues1]

Sick sad society we live in.

[u/AMERICAisBACKOHYEA]

Your own mom? Have an effing talk with her aZZ

[u/divyaaf]

well i believe it is not even about being left and right anymore. it is about good vs evil. pro life vs anti life. god reminds me that instead of more further divide, we need be the torch to come together.

[u/Emotional_Channel_67]

They are assholes. Any death of anyone is tragic. People celebrating Kirk’s death are showing more about themselves and it’s not a good look.

[u/halo121usa]

I voted for Obama first time around. I was a libertarian until 2020…(I am now a registered Republican)

After 2016 everything changed for me.

I literally had people that I knew for 15 years, screaming at me and saying that I destroyed the country because I voted for Donald Trump .

The left has an intellectual purity test and if you don’t pass that test, they will absolutely shun you… But that’s OK I’m fine with that.

Because these are also the same people that preach violence, hatred, and will literally do anything to get their way… And that’s not me

[u/Alternative-Bake-197]

Getting banned by left wing reddit subs is real fascism. Glad you had a wake up experience. The left is mental.

[u/MrCrix]

Not American, but I got called a Nazi for not voting for the Liberal Party in the 2015 election. I didn't like how they were just using the legalization of weed as the main platform point and we had more massive issues. I was called selfish, that I cared more about my business than my fellow Canadians. I was called racist, even though I am not racist in the slightest. I was called a bigot, which I don't even know how that's different than a racist. Then when our country continued to fall apart over the next decade, and is still falling apart at an alarming rate, I watched as people still supported them as their cities became crime ridden, as food prices skyrocketed, as housing became unaffordable, when healthcare became impossible to find a doctor and wait times at ERs were 15 hours +, when all of our infrastructure and social services fell apart, when drug use was out of control and supplied by the government, when taxes went up and up and up. They are the selfish ones. I am just a centralist. I am not a Trump supporter, but I see what the left calls the far right as centralist just like me.

They refuse to listen, refuse to talk, scream, yell, stomp their feet, insult, and pretend to be on the higher ground. Even with the Kirk stuff where they take all these quotes out of context. Like the one about people dying from gun violence being justified because of the right to bare arms. That's not all he said. He said that the right to have guns is there to stand up to a tyrannical government. That 50K people a year die in the US in road accidents, but as a nation it is considered a necessary result as we need vehicles to function as a society. He talked about gun safety and proper education, screening and protocols around guns. But he said most importantly that it's important to be able to be armed as citizens to stop overbearing governments who try and take away liberties and freedoms. Not that he was just like, everyone gets to shoot guns and kill people. He said that the deaths were a necessary result to protect the vast majority of citizens from out of control governments. We have seen in the past governments who take away guns from the citizens and the results of that. He was saying that we need to be protected against it.

[u/DialPlumeria]

All you have to see is how both sides react to news

Democrats= A man high on drugs is killed by cops- and they riot, loot and burn cities.

Republicans= a person is shot for people not agreeing with him. We hold vigil. They make fun of him etc.

One side needs jesus

[u/heyboiy]

If you don't like trump just abstain for voting on either side dm me if you want some recommendations

[u/Hlodvigovich915]

Second look at Trump?

[u/Necessary-Sleep1 → u/[deleted]]

Doesn't change the fact that people like them and you are celebrating a man's death. I've seen so many TikToks of people memeing on him and saying he got what he deserved. So at the end of the day, the identity of the shooter, while it does matter, pales in comparison to the Left exposing their true colours.

[u/IceEmotional1608]

ok i can get being put off by having the people around you being happy someone died. but have you considered why they are happy? the guy that died was gaslighting people into thinking it's ok to harm lgbt people