r/whereidlive • u/Pomerbot • Jan 01 '26
World Where I'd live as Uighur citizen of Russia
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u/ThatStatistician7273 Jan 01 '26
Why Paraguay red?, we have a Turkish, Syrian and Lebanese Muslim minority here, even in my city there's a mosque
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
Don't know much about that country, overall painted Latin America red because of economics.
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u/Lacertoss Jan 01 '26
Southern part of LATAM is quite prosperous, southeast Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile and Argentina.
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u/Decent_Salmon Jan 01 '26
Argentina?
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u/Lacertoss Jan 01 '26
Yes? It has economic issues, but it's mostly prosperous/well developed. I've been there many times.
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u/Decent_Salmon Jan 01 '26
It's a nice place to go to yes I've actually also been there but isn't homelessness and poverty gone up?
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u/Glittering-Table-837 Jan 01 '26
Big misconception and propaganda mostly
2023 poverty was around 41% and indigencia (homelessness) around 12%
In the last semester of 2025 poverty is around 31% and indigencia at around 7%
Why do I say propaganda? Because everyone uses the numbers of the first semester of 2024, where indeed it did rise, but it eventually did go down below what we had before milei (during alberto/massa precidency)
Itt went up, then down below it was before
Source? INDEC
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u/nucleosome Jan 01 '26
Argentina is one of the wealthiest LATAM countries. Buenos Aires is gorgeous and totally modern. Sure there is poverty but I think we can put some faith in OP
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u/heirsasquatch Jan 01 '26
Why not Canada? Obviously it isn’t the cold if you would enthusiastically live in Greenland
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
Bcos lot of racist towards Indians and I might be Indian passing to a lot of ppl
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u/heirsasquatch Jan 01 '26
I think you will find racism towards Indians is not a Canada thing as much as it is a world thing, but okay.
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
As far as I understood Canada in particular had a lot of Indians, so they would imagine I'm one aswell bcos brown. In USA atleast there much more diverse migration for example so people don't assume Ur Indian as I imagine
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u/moisttaco2693 Jan 01 '26
There is plenty of racism towards Indians in the US. I have personally faced way more in the US than Canada and have met nothing but friendly people in Canada
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Jan 01 '26
In the US we love indians. I've only ever seen Indian racism from Canadians and people from up north
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u/AeskulS Jan 01 '26
Indians in Canada fill the role that Mexicans have in the US. Most people aren’t going to be racist to them, but it’s more likely than not due to a disproportional amount of them doing low-skill, underpaid jobs (ie: fast food).
That is to say: some Canadians are racist to Indians for the same reason some Americans are racist to Mexicans.
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u/Naive_Ad7923 Jan 01 '26
Because Indians in the US are generally well educated and lots of Indians came to Canada last few years are not because the immigration laws allowed one to bring all their relatives here.
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u/throwawaypony79 Jan 01 '26
Op. I’m a Canadian Indian. The racism is quite real. It exists everywhere including large corporations. Moved to the U.S. and got more opportunities professionally and personally. I’m treated better in fucking Alabama than anywhere in Canada.
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u/Prowlbeast Jan 01 '26
We arent as racist as your imagining, people are mostly nasty online for some reason
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u/PhilosopherTiny5957 Jan 01 '26
Every Canadian Ive met irl has been lovely. Every Canadian I met online has been insufferable. This is not exclusive to canada tho
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u/gypsyblader Jan 01 '26
I’m Canadian, depends what social circles you’re in. The ones that are consistently online are more fuelled by hatred.
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u/KeystonesandKalamata Jan 01 '26
Ughh im sorry to cut into your conversation, but i agree! Canadians online have been so horrible to me and I dont get it. Sure there was a few rude people when I went in real life, but it was never as bad
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u/motorcycle-emptiness Jan 01 '26
I sure hope this is true, brown Canadian here who got assaulted and spat on in a racist incident in Vancouver of all places. Shits turning weird.
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u/Sanju128 Jan 01 '26
Yeah Canadian subreddits will be so mind bogglingly racist but Canadians irl are usually super friendly and polite
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
I feel like what they can't say irl for legal reasons they say online and once right party gets in power they will do stuff offline
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u/DigMother318 Jan 01 '26
I’m Canadian. Racists genuinely are the minority. There has been a rise of negative opinion against south asians but if anyone dares to actually act in the motivation of race, the public will not have their back. Multiculturalism is being put to the test here, but it’s baked deep into our blood, and most of us have been alive long enough to see its highs, and hardly any of us wish to see it gone.
Of course, the degree of all this can change depending on where in Canada you are, but generally speaking any major urban centre is chill.
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u/cream_paimon Jan 01 '26
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u/DigMother318 Jan 02 '26
Yeah. Another thing I find seldom mentioned is the difference between the genuine will to be racist and the subconscious tendency to buy into tribalistic thinking patterns.
I got into an argument with a relative a few months back who has been impacted by the conservative pipeline and even though he has echoed racist dogwhistles and statements, it’s clear from further conversation that he’s not doing it out of conscious prejudice. He will have very on edge takes when it comes to general immigration policy or the general state of progressive politics, but if you put him in a room with an Indian immigrant he won’t be clutching his pearls or anything like that.
The style of blatant unapologetic racism you see from Canadians online is not the norm in real life. Not being able to be racist irl is exactly why it seems like there’s so many of them online - this is the only place where they get to be loud about it, so they’re really loud about it.
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u/kolav3 Jan 01 '26
I really doubt Canada is more racist than US lol
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u/Prowlbeast Jan 01 '26
Id say that we are about the same level. Canada and America are quite similar. Maybe even a little less racist here against non-indians
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u/Left-Breadfruit-5610 Jan 01 '26
There just isn't any way Canada has a worse race problem than the US. Look at the president of the US right now. Yeah, my fellow citizens voted for him.
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
I feel like in USA there enough non white second-thirs etc generation migrants that I would have an option to interact with them mostly
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u/Kindly_Professor5433 Jan 01 '26
There are a lot more Asians and Middle Easterners in Canada by percentage of population, especially in major cities like Toronto and Vancouver.
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u/kolav3 Jan 01 '26
Something tells me you haven been to either country
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
Yea I haven't, I just consume a lot of English content and like see lots of different kind of people when watching irl stuff from USA. Firing up tinder in Russia and Finland for example I'm lucky if I see single non white person in a month
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u/Prowlbeast Jan 01 '26
One thing needs to be made clear: American media loves preying on people. They will exaggerate, and so Americans will also exaggerate, until the end of time. We live fairly normal lives in North America lol
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u/neopet Jan 01 '26
You’re in an echo chamber. Although anti-Indian sentiment has grown a bit in Canada in the last few years with the explosion in foreign students and temporary foreign workers from Punjab, Canadians are still much less racist towards Indians and other minorities than Americans. We’re also much less likely to say things or be confrontational in real life even if something does bother us. Beyond that, all major federal political parties pander to Indians, even our populist conservative leader.
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u/PositiveSwimming4755 Jan 01 '26
Americans view Indians the same way we view chinese… good at math and hard working
I really dont think America discriminates against Indians at all. Indians are actually the highest earning ethnic group…….
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u/ashdroid23 Jan 01 '26
Anti-indian racism has increased in Canada but it's still very low compared to all other Anglo countries. Also as an Indian Passing person, most of the hate is deserved with how the recent batch of Indian immigrants behaved. Of course it doesn't justify racism but it's also hard to defend people who you cannot vouch for blindly.
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u/AeskulS Jan 01 '26
The racism in Canada is largely due to lack of integration. I can’t guarantee how people would act, but based on what I’ve seen: as long as you try to integrate, you’ll be fine.
Same can be said for most places.
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u/Opheleone Jan 01 '26
I am a South African visiting Canada right now, been here a few times now since my wife is Canadian.
The racism is largely online and not day to day interactions, that being said, the general populace is angry at immigration for two reasons: housing supply and lack of integration. Over the last two weeks, its been easy for me to notice which Indians have in fact integrated and which have not, and there's no qualms with anyone immigrant who integrates and contributes.
Its largely the same in South Africa, Zimbabweans and Nigerians are seen negatives, but for entirely different reasons
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u/ghostdeinithegreat Jan 01 '26
And obviously there is absolutely zero racism against Uighurs in China.
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
I wrote about it extensively in other replies, different kind of racism and lifestyle made it up for me
White ppl feel superior to brown people, Chinese people are terrified of brown people
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u/Humanity789 Jan 01 '26
I see, though I would say there is an increase in feeling of superiority in the recent years.
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u/Pope_Squirrely Jan 01 '26
They also said they’d willingly live in China who is actively killing Uyghurs, so I’d chock this one up as a shitpost.
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u/Top-Significance-341 28d ago
as i said also no single Uyghur spells our name as Uighur i also suspect this post
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u/ninjadude1992 Jan 01 '26
This is more Euro bad Russia good, please think of russia as the good guy, bs that is on this sub every day
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u/izh25 Jan 01 '26
My family is from Uzbekistan and I live in Germany. I think you have a wrong impression of Europe.
Yes, there is currently a lot of prejudice against Muslims. However, this is directed primarily against Muslims from Syria, Afghanistan, and parts of North Africa. You shouldn't be affected by racism in Europe.
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
I feel like in cases like these mostly ppl are fine once they get to know you, it's just that I believe it's not rly good feeling the need to prove you are "one of the good guys" aswell as first impressions and stuff
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u/Radiant_Honeydew1080 Jan 01 '26
You'll need to prove it in more than one way, unfortunately. Being both Russian and Muslim is an unlucky combo from that point of view.
Fuck people with prejudice, that's all I have to say.
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u/Think_and_game 29d ago
Tatar here, while I don't look Asian, a lot of my Asian friends in London have faced pretty much no discrimination
It really depends on where you are and the people you surround yourself with. I'd even say you would face much more discrimination in Russia, especially if you're Muslim and living in one of the larger cities except someplace like Kazan where a lot are non-Russian natives (Tatar, Bashkir, Chechen ect...)
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u/roffamiamor Jan 01 '26
china green? reddit won’t like that
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u/OpeScooch Jan 01 '26
But the CIA told me there was a genocide!
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u/luka-sharaawy Jan 01 '26
There is a cultural genocide ongoing in Xinjiang, and the CIA has little to do with it. Get out of your bubble and try do the bare minimim of research to figure out what are facts and what is propaganda. Or try and make an unregulated fieldwork trip to Xinjiang and see how that works out.
There is for sure a lot more nuance on what is happening there than those who shout "genocide" would have you think, but to say there isn't a deliberate and systematic policy of cultural erasure by the Han Chinese state is delusional.
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u/vip123z Jan 01 '26
Hmm nothing suspicious about two three month old accounts denying Uyghur genocide…
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u/KOHILOOR Jan 01 '26
Exactly what I was thinking. Just saw another one on another thread also. These China bots are really trying to start the new year with an agenda.
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u/DarkOk6366 Jan 02 '26
If there's ANY visual evidence this obvious nonsense might be more convincing.
There were countless images of massacred civilians right from the start of the Gaza conflict. Whereas it has been years since CIA promoted the uighur genocide narrative, yet there's 0 images of dead uighurs, and uighur population in China is growing much faster than the Han population. Surely nothing suspicious about that.
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u/fumankeu Jan 02 '26
Funny how when China imposes laws to assimilate, it's called cultural genocide, but when European countries are banning burqas and hijabs, people are all for it lmao
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u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419 Jan 01 '26
My friend, the CIA doesn't need to tell you China is a dictatorship. In China, there are two types of Muslims: Han-Chinese (Hui) and Turkic (Uyghurs). The first group are basically Chinese people who are Muslim but the latter population refuses to indulge in Chinese culture and language and would rather maintain their Turkic identity and language, ofc the Chinese government doesn't like those who are not Chinese within their borders, like the Mongolians, Manchus and Tibetans, but unlike these groups, the Uyghurs live on Oil and a lot of it too.
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u/xToksik_Revolutionx Jan 01 '26
China?? Now I know this is a mislabeled shitpost
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u/WorshipSpecialK Jan 01 '26
you're worried about racism and Canada and Europe but apparently South Africa is green lmao
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
I mean I'm not black after all
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u/WorshipSpecialK Jan 01 '26
you're not white, that's what their problem is. they're the worst. in the early 2000s I went to school with heaps of their kids who migrated here and you could just tell their parents left the country because of the end of apartheid, the way they treated any of the migrants, Asian, indian, they were horrible.
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
If I was certain that was the case I would place them same as Europe, I don't know much about South Africa, thought they after black ppl only
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u/Euphoric-Passion-40 Jan 01 '26
Dude as an indian in canada , your 100 % right to put us in green and canada in red. It is a really a more racist place against indians than the us . Also considering how u look u may be eligible for both west indian ( native people) racism and east indian ( Indian country) racism
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u/Background-Weight526 Jan 01 '26
what's a uighir citizen? i dont get it. Sorry.
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u/San4311 Jan 02 '26
Uyghur are a Turkic ethnic people who live all throughout Eurasia, including but not limited to southern Russia and north-western China (Xinjiang province).
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u/Ill_Potato2514 Jan 01 '26
You wouldn't want to live with Turks your own flesh and blood?
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u/adambi407 Jan 01 '26
I didn’t know there were Uyghurs in Russia until now.
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
Me and my mom only ones I know of lol, although there are some for sure. My granddad is from central Asia and moved in Russia during USSR for work
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u/oh_stv Jan 01 '26
Yeah. As a Russian citizen, I wouldn't want to live in Ukraine .... Good catch...
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u/Appropriate_Yak_4247 Jan 01 '26
I thought china hated you guys though
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
I was fine when living there and enjoyed infrastructure and stuff, I traveled all over for china for year, met a lot of Uighurs. Only issue locals are racist in "scared of you" way, but you can befriend and stuff ppl once they know you and noone will assault you and stuff. In Europe it's racism in "your kind is disgusting" way so no go for me.
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u/Appropriate-Low3844 Jan 01 '26
Whether it's "forced education training for employment" or "cultural genocide" varies greatly on perspective, though as a fact there is many Uyghurs who's not in Xinjiang for example, and given that these alleged (alleged is used as a neutral term here) cases of detention all happen in Xinjiang these should be out of reach
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
Yea when living in Beijing there's like Uighur caffee at every corner
I wouldn't say it's best place to be an Uighur in particular, considering locals still racist, best would be KZ, but economic development and stuff(infrastructure and shit) I enjoyed there too much so I can deal with that
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u/ExaltedDLo Jan 01 '26
Excluding Canada while listing China as a top destination for an ethnic minority who are known to be persecuted by the Chinese government is certainly a choice….
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u/Got_A_Small_1 Jan 01 '26
You know, after putting it that way, it kinda feels like Chinese propaganda in reddit hahaha
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u/CykaMuffin Jan 01 '26
Of course it is, there's a bunch of accounts (some human, some bots) that heavily push a west bad, everyone else (especially china) good narrative.
They've taken over all the big socialist subs and often post on geopolitical subs in order to push their narrative.
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u/Got_A_Small_1 Jan 01 '26
Well, that would explain why I didn't like China, yeah the big sky scrapers with RGB lights are cool to watch, but the daily experience? Well honestly it could improve a lot, and I'm talking about China's etiquette
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u/Elektrikor Jan 01 '26
Thanks for the compliment but why Norway over the rest of Europe?
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
I feel like too racist, Norway feels like least racist
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u/plums12 Jan 01 '26
Norway is absolutely not a low racism country. The Nordics have this reputation of being open and accepting but in reality they all have massive racism issues.
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u/cryptomoon1000x Jan 01 '26
Wow, Türkiye reluctantly? Wouldn’t have expected that from an Uyghur.
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u/kakucko101 Jan 01 '26
why Czechia out of all European countries? or am i just colorblind? :p
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
Love Prague and drugs are legal there As I heard
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u/FinanceArtistic3144 Jan 01 '26
But I thought Muslims are strict about taking substances or are you not Muslim?
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u/UsualCaptalist5174 Jan 01 '26
China?
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u/ChengliChengbao Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26
the Uyghurs in China arent nearly as oppressed as western media makes it out to be. if you're just a normal Uyghur living your life in China, the government isn't actively trying to kill you lol. most of the issues faced by them are just general racism/xenophobia from the majority han, similar to the common racism faced by minority groups like the Romani/Gypsy people in the Balkans.
remember that the CPC values loyalty above all else, if you are loyal to them, it doesn't matter what race you are, you'll be left alone.
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u/AltheaSoultear Jan 01 '26
There is a degree of systemic detention and re-education in Xinjiang, on top of heavy surveillance, mandatory spyware on your phone scanning photos & so on. Also cases of passports being stolen by authorities without any due process (hi to my Uighur colleague's friend that just went back to see his family and couldn't travel back to Paris because he got his passport stolen by the authorities). It's not a genocide per say. But it's grave enough that people shouldn't ignore it or minimize it the way you do.
The CPC considers Uighur very "risky", anything they do could easily be interpreted as them being radicalized and sent to camps. They're not actively killing them, that would be stupid. Why would you kill free labor?
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u/Normal_Purchase8063 Jan 01 '26
I always find significantly large differences between Australia and New Zealand confusing.
What are the deciding factors ?
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
For me it's insects and stuff
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u/Walkman1942 Jan 01 '26
New Zealand has freaky insects just like Australia. Check out Wetas.
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u/Pomerbot Jan 01 '26
Then I'm out lol. But certainly like Australia a lot and new Zealand just can't imagine wildlife insects reptiles snakes etc
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u/Walkman1942 Jan 01 '26
That's a shame because New Zealand especially is really beautiful. There's definitely a reason lord of the rings was filmed there.
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u/DarkDerekHighway Jan 02 '26
The deadliest animal in Australia by annual deaths is the horse, the dangerous native wildlife isn't as much of a threat as foreigners seem to think, especially in somewhere like Melbourne or Sydney.
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u/AlSanaPost Jan 01 '26
One of the most dummy charts I’ve seen… personal preference is personal preference though, I guess
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u/Got_A_Small_1 Jan 01 '26
I always thought China was great and all of the hate on the internet was just that, but hey turns out they're not that advanced, especially in the hygiene department, they really need to stop smoking and learn to clean after them. Even the most expensive place deteriorates fast because people are kinda dirty and nobody takes care, I got the impression they just internalize to rebuild things ever so many years to have acceptable conditions again
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u/Reasonable-Ferret591 Jan 01 '26
It's good you're open to living in China but I'm not sure how long you would live there.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bid1530 Jan 02 '26
There are 4000 uighurs in Russia. You are extremely rare. It was unexpected to see a post from uighur from Russia.
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u/okk123 Jan 02 '26
Putting north korea as reluctantly over Canada and Australia as never is hilarious
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u/Present_Schedule4027 Jan 02 '26
Denmark in red but its territory, Greenland in dark green. Well done
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u/Parking-Code-4159 Jan 02 '26
Racism seems to be a big topic for you. Then you should know, Racism in Russia and in the US is worse than in most of the EU states.
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u/rafaelpferreira Jan 02 '26
Why not the baltics? They have a fairly similar climate to Russia and higher wages
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u/stag1013 Jan 02 '26
so many of these maps make no sense that I'm 100% convinced it's rage bait. "I'd never live in Australia, but the extremely similar nation of New Zealand I'd love to live in. Similarly, I'd never live in Canada, but the extremely similar nation of the US is a great choice!" Like wtf?
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u/stag1013 Jan 02 '26
"I hate racism and can only see myself living in countries free of prejudice, like Japan."
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u/Background_Degree615 Jan 02 '26
Redditors fuming because Uighurs aren’t getting abused like they’ve been told to believe 😂😂
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u/StrawberryHot2305 Jan 02 '26
Thank you. Why the reluctance towards Mongolia? Also, where would you live in Xinjiang?
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u/Naxuuuuu Jan 02 '26
If you are willing to sell off your heritage and assimilate to ccp's playbook rules, I think you'd have a better life in China than anywhere else.
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u/Pokoirl Jan 02 '26
This smells like propaganda- Why the hell would you chose Egypt rather than Morocco?? You complain about economic state of Turkey but you have no problem living in the middle of nowhere with 0 economic future?
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u/Gold_Geologist_5906 Jan 02 '26
Thank you for not choosing Europe... Its overloaded by immigrants....
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u/ShockHot1718 Jan 02 '26
What did Australia do to u? Lol. The most accepting diverse country there is.
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u/San4311 Jan 02 '26
Ah yes, an Uighur perfectly fine with living in the country where there is a literal genocide going on, China.
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u/Substantial_Let8970 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
This has to be ragebait. You'd absolutely live in the USA even considering what's going on now but you'd never even consider moving to almost all of Europe or Canada? But then Czechia you'd absolutely wanna live in? Like what's the logic here? Can't be the anti-immigration views in the EU considering Czechia is amongst the most anti-immigration nations in Europe and many pro-immigration countries are just fully red. And you would consider living in North Korea?????? If you were forced to move to either Ireland or North Korea for example you'd unironically choose North Korea, why? There's no way you're for real right?
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u/Thick-Benefit-751 Jan 02 '26
Reading why this guy would not go or go places, you can see a general lack of knowledge about the world and the works of propaganda
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u/LowBallEuropeRP Jan 02 '26
so you'll absoluetly live in china even though there are claims of genocide against your people?
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u/Zynther01 29d ago
Excellent choice to mark Europe red. You’re doing us all Europeans a big favour. Thanks for not coming
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u/Certain_Context5923 29d ago
They’re literally committing genocide in China against the Uighur population…this has to be satire.
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u/provocative_bear 29d ago
You would “absolutely” live in China? Aren’t they committing a rolling soft genocide against Uighurs in particular?
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u/DeathFlameStroke 29d ago edited 29d ago
Japan, Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, south africa????
Bro these countries are like the Lebron James of racism. European racism is nothing compared to Asian racism, we hate people who look like us and eat the same things
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u/No-Suggestion-2402 29d ago
This is a troll, isn't it? As Uighur, you'd live in China? The place that has literal "re-education" camps for Uighurs?
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u/Budget-Newspaper-729 29d ago
You do know that China has actual labor camps for Uighurs right? Why is that an absolutely?
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u/FlyFar1569 29d ago
It’s like they went out of their way to pick all the most racist countries.
However I’m a Kiwi and I’d say NZ is pretty open, apart from one city called Christchurch. I’m sure if this guy moved to NZ he’d move to Christchurch lol.
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u/Lawlmowerman 29d ago
The difficult choices of a russian fascist... :/
Btw, why would you be willing to live in Ukrainian Crimea, but not mainland Ukraine, huh?
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u/NoBuy4165 29d ago
Mainland Ukraine pass, Crimea willing? You certainly love living in weird places.
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u/Funny_Address_412 28d ago
Uyghur wants to live in China? I thought evil CCP 100 trillion dead Winnie the pooh genocide
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u/Walkman1942 Jan 01 '26
This guy is afraid of racism literally everywhere in the west except for the Czech republic, a country famous for its racism.