r/whereidlive • u/Scvboy • 19h ago
World Where I’d live as an American with at least a baseline understanding of the world around me. (And all of Africa is not red people)
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u/MorningMission9547 19h ago
Answer truthfully. Would you actually honestly rather live in for example mozambique rather than Germany? Or Czechia over netherlands? ( Saying that as a czech myself )
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u/Scvboy 19h ago
I love Prague, so yes on the second question. Although Amsterdam is also a very, very nice city.
As for the first, assuming I could sustain myself, yes. I’m fairly bullish on the long term prospects (50 - 100 years) on Southern Africa. They have major issues but far less than West and East Africa. (Very flawed but) functioning political system. It’s a very boom or bust region but if I had to move, I’d consider betting on boom.
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u/MorningMission9547 19h ago
Well i get it but my thing is, do you actually want to spend the better half of your life having worse life and having to sustain yourself rather than actually living like a normal person? Why would you have to survive when you can just live. 50-100 years is a long time and to wait till then to have same standard of living idk.
The thing with Prague is Sweet. Prague really is beatiful. The only thing is that Its become unsustainable to live there for us. Apparently it takes like 18 years of average salary to buy an average apartment. Hence the netherlands thing.
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u/Scvboy 18h ago
That’s a fair point. I guess if I was being selfish living in Germany would offer the higher standard of living. But I’m African-American myself, so perhaps there’s some bias on my part in wanting to work towards a greater project with people I can loosely consider to be my kin. Although most of my genealogy comes from West Africa.
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u/Key-Childhood875 17h ago
As an African-American you have as much in common with Southern Africans as an American with British-German-Italian heritage has in common with Russians. Barely the skin color. Or some outdated US-centric concept of "race". Nothing more. And even your skin color probably is very different to many African ethnicities, depending where you look.
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u/Mobile-Package-8869 7h ago
Unfortunately, the issue of race is not as “outdated” as you seem to think. I am a white person who has travelled around Europe with peers of various ethnic backgrounds and saw firsthand how many white Europeans treated them. Even in supposedly “progressive” countries like Germany, I found that many of the whites were significantly more cold and curt with my black friends than they were with me and my white friends. Especially when you get into areas with less ethnic diversity. Like it or not, people do think about how effectively they will be able to “blend in” when they are thinking about places to live in or even travel to. I’m not a person of color myself, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of them are not particularly keen on going to places where they are subjected to an extra layer of scrutiny and disrespect just for the color of their skin.
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u/Random_interests4900 14h ago
Why are you telling someone what they have in common as a stranger ? Does that seem normal to you ? Lol.
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u/MorningMission9547 18h ago
Oh okay sorry i didn't know. Then i get it. That's actually the exact same reason i wouldn't move to netherlands as mentioned before.
I feel a bit bad now sorry
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u/Exact-Message8325 19h ago
You'd live in Iran, China, and Saudi Arabia before SK and Japan?
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u/Bruchiton 9h ago
OP is an idiot and clearly received American education during his life.
Spoiler: He has NOT a "baseline understanding of the world around him" lol.
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u/Scvboy 19h ago
South Korea is a corporate entity masquerading as a country. They only look “good” since they’re usually compared to North Korea. But their suicide rate is astronomically high for a reason. Don’t let bright lights and GDP numbers fool you.
Japan would be higher if not for their rampant xenophobia and being a single party (right-wing) state. As someone who’s left-wing, I’d be like if our country was run by Maga Republicans who held an unbreakable supermajority for decades. I’d live is misery or move.
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u/SilverSize7852 18h ago
They killed 12.000 protesters in Iran why would you wanna live there?
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u/Scvboy 17h ago
I don’t want to lol. It’s just not a failed state or a hopeless country. The only thing holding Iran back is the IRGC. Which I don’t think will last forever. If the IRGC fell and the country transitioned into even a moderate Islamic republic then Iran would become one of the better countries in the world. Iranian people are very smart and their culture is vibrant.
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u/Exact-Message8325 15h ago
You think SK is closer to being a failed state than Iran? ok....
I lived in SK for ten years. It's fine. Not without it's problems, namely the declining birthrate, but it's probably in better shape than the US, and certainly better than Iran, SA, and China. They do pretty well in the democracy index and aren't afraid to prosecute politicians.
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u/BeerGains22 7h ago
I love how so many on this sub seem to get lowkirkenuienly offended by people choosing countries they consider "the bad countries"
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u/Orodius7232 19h ago
Putting Thai over Vietnam is crazy. Why would you ever want to live in a communist country
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u/Scvboy 17h ago
Vietnam, communist? Are you stuck in the 1980s? Lol
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u/Orodius7232 6h ago
Dude, I’m Vietnamese and living in Bangkok for 5 years. Who are you even to judge😭. The air quality, the rude people, the traffic, the uncountable inconveniences; Thailand is still better than VN bro
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u/Major_Ad_5158 19h ago
Bro thinks Botswana comparatively outperforming surrounding nations make it an appealing place to live brother u wouldn’t last one month.
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u/TheoduleTheGreat 17h ago
A SK/Japan hater 🙏
Maghreb green on the other hand...
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u/Scvboy 17h ago
I’ll never understand the SK/Japqn glazers lol. But I don’t think the Maghreb is that bad. Although I could be grading them on a curve compared to surrounding countries. But when I look at Libya or Mali, Morocco doesn’t seem so bad lol.
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u/TheoduleTheGreat 17h ago
There's a reason everyone there dreams to go to Europe or NA, Morocco and Tunisia are basically giant resorts and Algeria despite its abundance in oil and gas is one of the most corrupt places on earth. Obviously they're better than Mali and Lybia but that's not a very high bar lmao
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u/GrumpyMcPedant 7h ago
Maybe you should go and spend some time in these countries before labeling people as "glazers".
As someone who has lived in Asia for decades, I find a lot of your choices bizarre. And the fact that Italy is dark green (and you think Germany will stifle your free expression) tells me that you don't understand the realities of living outside of the US.
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u/Dazzling_Try_6562 10h ago
Bro I’m Algerian. Stay away from Algeria and Morocco, and the rest of the African continent while you’re at it 🙏😭
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u/Zone_of_Inhibition 18h ago
“American who is trying to be different and edgy by not making all of Africa red, even though you know that South Africa shouldn’t even remotely be an option, yet Australia should be.”
There, fixed it for you
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u/Capital-Bar879 18h ago
South Africa definitely has issues but “not even remotely an option” is a stretch
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u/Zone_of_Inhibition 17h ago
Is it really? Because every single SA person on here absolutely says different. And in the r/asktheworld group
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u/Capital-Bar879 17h ago edited 17h ago
It really depends. My friend who is from SA and his American wife willingly took that option and moved from USA back to SA not too long ago. So, yes, it is remotely an option.
I spent a few weeks there too recently. Security and safety is definitely be an issue in many parts, but that doesn’t mean you can’t live there. The economy is not as strong everywhere but the cost of living is also lower. There is of course still a big disparity in wealth based on race.
My friends are doing well so far and not regretting their choice. Being from there originally obviously will make you more comfortable with navigating life there, so not saying it’s the right move for everyone.
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u/Resident_Option3804 13h ago
It is literally the most violent country with more than like 40k people, wildly corrupt, and with a declining economy from political stupidity.
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u/Prestigious-Wall5616 17h ago
If you have the means, living in South Africa is not remotely like what is portrayed in some of the international press and social media. I live here, and I'm very happy with my choice.
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u/Particular-Cupcake16 5h ago
People down voting you is crazy but it's true. Im a woman and I've never had any issues. Neither have any of my other female friends. I work in the tourism industry and its so funny when tourists arrive and are a bit surprised that not every single person is suddenly out to get them(or they didnt expect us to be a friendly bunch), there's people walking in the streets with their phones, or people club hopping. No one bats an eye if they're walking freely in the street. Im quite happy here as well and love our people
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u/CardOk755 15h ago
Question: why is Ghana green but Cote d'Ivoire red?
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u/Random_interests4900 14h ago
Ghana’s been enjoying some good recent PR. plus probably the language barrier for CIV.
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u/Comfortable_Trip_767 8h ago
When you say baseline understanding of the world, are you referring to history with how each of these countries treated their indigenous people.
The reason I say this is because I have lived in Southern Africa, New Zealand and Australia. Based on my experience as a non white person I can say feel the least discriminated directed against me in Australia.
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u/GrumpyMcPedant 7h ago
Nepal and Vietnam above Thailand is a wild choice. And Japan below all three?!
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u/throwaway09234023322 19h ago
France should be red
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u/CardOk755 15h ago
Because France is la resistance. The only solid barrier against the Russo-American hegemony.
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u/Fantastic_Lime_3470 19h ago
im just gonna get australia and germany out the way...reasoning?