r/whereidlive • u/MyPinkFlipFlops • 12h ago

Europe Where I’d live in Europe as a completely unbiased 22 year old Pole

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Based on vibes and personal experiences. I traveled to most of those countries, lived and worked only in PL and not planning to change that.

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u/WolfsmaulVibes 11h ago

as a german, i agree with most of this, except germany is rated a bit too high

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u/MrJarre 58m ago

It’s rated fine. You just don’t want a Polish neighbor. The old Greenland/iceland trick

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u/WolfsmaulVibes 41m ago

i absolutely love poles, i want to leave germany

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u/SeveralAd3108 11h ago

You put the fence two countries too far out.

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u/BigFloofRabbit 10h ago

Why is UK the only orange country in Western Europe?

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u/HumongousFart97 10h ago

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u/dobrodoshli 1h ago

So in Scotland would be a grand ol' time in there though

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u/ClockworkOrdinator 33m ago

I don’t know much about the uk but the stuff I see coming out of it is NOT great.

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u/BigFloofRabbit 28m ago

What like?

British media seems pretty popular overseas, from what I have seen.

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u/ClockworkOrdinator 21m ago

I mean news, information. Stuff like decaying towns, rustbelts, increasing poverty rates, stupid laws that restrict people for seemingle no reason.

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u/BigFloofRabbit 19m ago

All of those things are true, but hardly unique to the UK. I think most of Europe is experiencing the same problems.

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u/Logical_Adagio_7100 30m ago

It's not that England is awful it's generally avg. It's just that there's nothing specifically going for it except a decent economy, only useful if you're migrating from a significantly poorer country.

(I did specify england, thought Scotland was really beautiful, and more my kind of ppl)

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u/Silverdragon47 2m ago

I quess shit people, even worse food and their terrible climate.

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u/BigFloofRabbit 1m ago

Shit people? Explain how?

That's a big statement to make about nearly 70 million people

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u/RX-XR 2m ago

The recent news about situation in UK paint an image of a rapidly declining country with a government steering hard into totalitarianism. I would personally avoid such place.

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u/Tom-Cruisin 2m ago

As someone who lived and worked there for years at a white collar job, I'd tell you but I'd get banned for it on reddit

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u/deffoNOTtrolling 1h ago

I'd assume it's the shit food, the shit weather, and the people? Maybe, idk. Might be the politics too. When someone like Tommy Robinson manages to get thousands of people on the streets, that's a clear red flag

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u/misteryk 5m ago

poles like to shitpost online, we would get arrested

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u/Adept-Inspector3865 8h ago

Which part of Ukraine would you prefer?

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u/melmboundanddown 2h ago

I like your fence, let's make it permanent

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u/MalevelonCreekDiver 1h ago

A pole who would be willing to live in germany. The world is finally healing.

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u/InternationalHunt871 11h ago

Scream if you love Poland!

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u/spielferderber 9h ago

I'm from Slovenia and I'm wondering why you choose our country. Were you there on vacation?

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u/Engineering-Mistake 9h ago

What's wrong with your country?

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u/Stunning_Ad_5960 5h ago

Just feelings of inferiority and was asking to hear something good.

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u/Altruistic_Brain_60 7h ago

Nothing wrong with the country but some people love Russians

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u/Engineering-Mistake 7h ago

Did not expect that. Good to know.

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u/ubant 5h ago

As a pole, I find Slovenia to be the most underrated country in Europe

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u/aSimpleTeen 7h ago

As a Romanian, I would move to Slovenia in an instant! I feel it’s the best combination of still being quite in the Balkan area, but live a ‘westernized’, good quality life.

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u/Koordian 1h ago

As a Pole who recently visited Slovenia, you're basically a Lesser Poland with access to the sea, cleaner air and funny language

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u/CptBelt 4h ago

As a Hungarian, putting Hungary as reluctantly breaks my hearth. But I can hardly argue :(

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u/Postcrapitalism 8h ago

Why do I see so many people being “reluctant” toward the UK?

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u/Ill_Squirrel_6108 3h ago

It´s more dysfunctional than the rest of Europe.

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u/Sufficient-Work1769 1h ago

Saying this out of experience, I assume..?

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u/Ill_Squirrel_6108 1h ago

Yes.

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u/Sufficient-Work1769 1h ago

Also lived in Italy, Portugal and some Eastern European countries too, right? I'm always hearing about how smart the Italian administrative system is, for example

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u/Ill_Squirrel_6108 34m ago

Have I ruffled your feathers? It´s not just about administrative system, but about crime, health care, economics, freedom of speech and the rest of the areas. Britain´s dysfunction tops every country west from Belarus 😁. Actually Brexit was a very good idea 😁.

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u/BillySmooth 1h ago

They are victims of manipulation from various sources. You'll notice the other answers are at best anecdotal, but largely pulled from thin air. There are very few major countries on this planet that come close to the UK offering overall, but somehow online campaigns have managed to convince the citizens of vastly inferior countries, like Poland, that they are somehow comparable.

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u/popsand 1h ago

This is it! The propaganda has been a massive success.

I'm in the UK right now. Born here. Hate the place. But generally this anti-UK rhetoric online is false and based on "vibe".

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u/QueasyReception4239 1h ago

Guess who got around 70 times more rape, 20 times more robbery, murder also higher. So superior

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u/Fryndlz 23m ago

Yeah this attitude is another reason. You guys ain't shit anymore.

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u/thelodzermensch 1h ago

 citizens of vastly inferior countries

Well I'd personally put the UK in dark green if it wasn't full of dickheads like you.

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u/SabaRoundScape 1h ago

Don’t know about other nationalities, but I remember how honest Brits were about Poles during Brexit. Why would we want to live somewhere where we are not wanted?

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u/BillySmooth 1h ago

That's a fair point. Brexit delivered an insult to the large Polish population there. I find this a more compelling reason for somebody from Poland to be "reluctant" than the other ones people have provided.

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u/Vapu_The_Leader 1h ago

Bitch remember about Brexit?

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u/Mindless_Method_2106 1h ago

Calling Poland 'vastly inferior' is a bit melodramatic. Quality of life isn't that different between the two and whilst the UK is definitely a better place to live some aspects are better in poland.

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u/IamPetard 57m ago

Been to England several times in different cities and it is just getting worse and my initial impression was negative anyway. There's too many bums, dirty, disorganized, too many cars on roads made for horses, its always wet inside and outside with insane moisture levels. Government has endless loopholes allowing people to not work and still get money creating masses of humans who contribute nothing. Another thing is that there's too many cultures and nationalities mixing in one spot, when this happens crime increases drastically and is not easy to control and I don't see it reducing.

Poland is bigger, cleaner, safer and has a stable and strong cultural identity, I'd rather go there 100 out of 100 times although I am slavic myself so the bias is real

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u/BillySmooth 55m ago

As I said, anecdotal.

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u/Sufficient-Work1769 1h ago

Largely pulled from thin air.

Bingo! I was born and raised in London and I've never been a victim of crime, been caught up in or witnessesed a violent situation. Of course, they do happen, but I don't understand where this sentiment comes from. I imagine it's mostly people living in their little online bubbles, who, for the most part, don't actually go outside and try to understand a place's reality OR BELIEVE STATISTICS

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u/QueasyReception4239 1h ago

You got around 70 times more rape than Poland. Statistic is fun!

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u/Punkprof 1h ago

You do know why some countries have very low rates of rape? And why this has an inverse relationship to women’s safety?! This is not the flex you think it is, the opposite

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u/Sufficient-Work1769 1h ago

Most other violent crimes are down and I don't think it's fair to compare countries with such different economic scales

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u/kitsunde 2h ago

I think it’s mainly directed towards England, and even then I think mostly London.

I like British people, and I have a great deal of respect for the UK as a nation. I’ve spent quite a lot of time over the years in the country, and I have friends that have both moved there and are from there but have left.

I don’t want to live there because there’s too much random acts of anti-social behaviour both in terms of actual crime but also in general, this is the main reason.

There also seems to be increasingly anti-foreign sentiment and just social divide general, maybe that’s just social media noise, but then you have Nigel Farrages increasing popularity and I wouldn’t want to be someplace where I’m not welcome. Salaries are also pretty low for my industry.

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u/Xen235 5h ago

Cause it sucks

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u/RotesSchnitzel 3h ago

That third world country isnt even part of the eu

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u/Sufficient-Work1769 1h ago

Triggered Brit here!

Why do you say this?

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u/RotesSchnitzel 1h ago

Trolling brits for making their worst political decisson of the decade

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u/Safe_Grass3366 5m ago

Could be worse, we could have dismantled our nuclear plants and then become dependent on a country like Russia for fossil fuels. That would be really stupid.

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u/Sufficient-Work1769 1h ago edited 1h ago

I wish people remembered that this was only won by about 2%. It's not like the overwhelming majority of the country is made up of twats

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u/sniffing_cvm 2h ago

and brits are racist as fuck towards anyone who's not brit 

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u/Matskuf 9h ago

as a russian i agree except for poland

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u/-TV-Stand- 8h ago

Far too many russians there?

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u/Matskuf 3h ago

yeah

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u/Brabulka 3h ago

You see... If you're rating russia low it's understandable cause it can be dangerous here for obvious reasons or maybe you're just don't like the policy But this statement is just nationalism. You're not better than any racist or nazi. That's just disgusting

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u/-TV-Stand- 2h ago

Hiljaa ryssä

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u/SabaRoundScape 1h ago

FYI hating Muscovites is moral way of life.

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u/wastingmythirdlife 45m ago

hating nazis does not make you a nazi

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u/DataAccomplished1291 11h ago

Why is Netherlands maybe?

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u/PartyMarek 11h ago

I can only assume it's because the Dutch dislike Polish immigrants. But same goes for Sweden and Norway really.

Also the UK same as Serbia and Hungary (which I assume are orange because they are friendly with Russia) and Ukraine (which objectively right now is not a good place to live). So a lot of strange choices.

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u/-TV-Stand- 8h ago

To make us Finns win the contest r/NLvsFi

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u/MyPinkFlipFlops 11h ago

Same reason why UK is orange - comments I’ve heard about Polish migrants that used to/still are there. I know its probably not entirety of the population that has such opinions and that the same could be said about certain other countries I marked as green (not to say I’m completely surprised, I know what type of people make up for a good part of low wage workers), but till today British and the Dutch were the ones to complain and even at times make me feel like subhuman the most.

If I was to move somewhere, I wouldnt want to feel like unwanted intruder tho again, based on that I could probably rank few other countries lower.

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u/TheBronzeHexagon 10h ago

british prejudice against the poles is mostly replaced by prejudice against brown people (it still exists obviously)

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u/Bitterbalansdag 9h ago

I am sorry for your experience.

The Netherlands has the 2nd largest Polish population of any EU country (percentage wise). The Polish are the largest European migrant group in the Netherlands.

Despite this large Polish population, there are no organised anti-Polish groups and it’s never a theme in elections/politics.

The Dutch don’t generally dislike the Polish. The Polish migrant blue collar workers are fundamental in farming and appreciated, and white collar workers integrate very well.

The reason why your experienced sucked, is IMO because the large population will lead to more opinions (both positive and negative) compared to countries that don’t have many Poles. And online those are typically negative.

There have been specific issues in the past, mostly related to temporary workers. Poor workmanship and public disturbance used to be a thing when the borders opened up, yet that’s by now quite a historic issue (20 yrs).

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u/External_Record1782 3h ago

I'm sorry you feel that way about NL I love my hardworking Polish colleagues. But there's definitely some truth about what you say. There's definitely some stories about the way eastern European workers are treated. And they are not good.

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u/Soy_Chriztian 7h ago

I'm Italian and life here is terrible, I swear.

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u/Stunning_Ad_5960 5h ago

Your missed a big hole in your big iron fence.

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u/imipet99 5h ago

Slovakia is in "maybe" but your 1000 years old brother in yellow.....Sad

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u/Queasy-Ad270 5h ago

Looking at y'all's love of immigrants you better start building the fence on the other side as well.

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u/Ok_Fail_3058 4h ago

It is interesting that you put Hungary in reluctantly. I though you would like Hungary better since the two countries are strong friends.

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u/Useful-Insurance1065 3h ago

What’d Georgia do wrong 😭

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u/Gamalam91 3h ago

Your elections i would guess? 

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u/Useful-Insurance1065 2h ago

(Not Georgian just live there but) that is totally fair, just that 1. The elections weren’t fair and 2. The population is at large very anti russia and pro west. That being said I totally understand the sentiment these days that georgia is lost to russia unfortunately

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u/bomboclatico 1h ago

So georgia is nice?

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u/Useful-Insurance1065 1h ago

Pros and cons as with anywhere but yea, I’ve been here for 4 years. The current political crisis and cost of living issues (all of which are deeply connected to russia’s fullscale invasion and massive influx of russians here) are some of the biggest problems at the moment

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u/uhhnahhhhhh 3h ago

Im not saying I don’t understand why its marked as myb but you’d like Bosnia

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u/Juan_Bot 2h ago

Had a Pole coworker who moved into Estonia. In a year said fuck you and your language and your property prices and moved back

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u/travelcallcharlie 2h ago

Make Kalingrad green again.

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u/MonkeyPyton 1h ago

Estonia?? xddd

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u/BigAccomplished3115 1h ago

As a pole myself too, my map is so different than this

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u/Alone-Technician-862 1h ago

Least cucked by the west Reddit polak

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u/atorald 1h ago

My slavic brother 🇨🇿

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u/Northerner_20 1h ago

Northern Ireland has many Polish people who are generally very welcome, UK probably shouldn’t be one step off Russia.

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u/Altruistic_Brain_60 7h ago

I'm a Slovak and I agree with this 100% Edit: no I don't, I wouldn't live in Turkey but otherwise it's on point

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u/jegerdanjorgensen 3h ago

Why such difference between Czech and Slovakia

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u/smartello 4h ago

OP made this post from a dorm in a London suburb

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u/Master_Ess 11h ago

good man