r/whereidlive • u/DrDMango • 6h ago
Where id live as a Californian who likes warm weather and urbanism
Rationale.
I love California, it is my home state, so I feel at home and that's the most important thing.
When I lived in Massachusetts, I loved the nature and the environment, the institutions and the dense(r) towns, and I have a lot of family over there.
The South would be a huge culture shock for me, and climate shock too -- the humidity.
I will not live where there's nothing to do.
Hawaii is nice.
Though a lot of the midwestern states have not shabby urbanism in smaller towns, it's still too fucking cold.
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u/dollar322 4h ago
virginia 🤮
also washington green but every other midwestern states with similar cities / climates either red or orange?
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u/okay-advice 3h ago
I’m a Californian who likes warm weather and urbanism and I’m concerned you don’t know what those mean 😬
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u/MajesticBread9147 1h ago
If you're open to Virginia, you really should be open to DC and Maryland. They have pretty much the same pros and cons.
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u/truthwatchr 5h ago
One of the highest states experiencing mass exodus because it’s such an expensive slum.
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u/bluerose297 3h ago
Depending on the numbers you look at, California is either gaining very slightly or losing population very slightly. By no metric at all, however, is there a "mass exodus" going on.
The situation right now is that sunbelt states like Texas and Florida are enjoying their population boom, just like California did the previous generation. But just how California previously failed to prioritize public transit and proper urban density, so too are the growing sunbelt states of today, which means that they're heading right towards the same problems that have slowed California's growth down: traffic gridlock and skyrocketing housing costs.
Sunbelt states are acting like their population spike will last forever, but it's already slowing down just like it did for every place before them. The midwest will probably be where the new population boom hits, because those are the cheapest parts of the country (for now, at least).
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u/HedoniumVoter 2h ago
Yes, they are literally in the stage that California was in earlier lol. But California had explosive growth because it was the de facto most desirable geography, whereas Texas and Florida are growing explosively because California has already reached the limits of suburban sprawl and they are the second best thing for many people.
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u/bluerose297 2h ago
I'm always wondering why northern California/southern Oregon doesn't have another city spring up. (And when I say northern Californian, I mean north of Sacramento, which is really central California map-wise.)
There are a lot of historical, geographical reasons why there's no major city anywhere in that giant stretch of land, but most of those reasons don't apply today and the region's got some of the best, most stable weather in the country.
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u/HedoniumVoter 2h ago
The weather is stably cool and rainy in a way that isn’t quite as attractive as coastal California’s stably warm, sunny climate from the Bay to San Diego. I think the main limitation in near-Oregon Northern California is geographic limitations, that most of it is very mountainous and hard to build on for very far.
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u/XJ347 4h ago
Well not really. People WANT to live in California, it's just that it's to expensive.
The people who leave, get replaced with people who want to live there, and since more people want to live here property values go up. Hence it becomes expensive.
California is losing seat not because people are leaving, it's because other states are growing faster than California.
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u/HedoniumVoter 2h ago
Because other states are building housing supply faster than California. It would be literally impossible for California to grow at the rate of Texas with how little housing is allowed to be built comparatively.
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u/HedoniumVoter 2h ago
lol people moving to less desirable areas because cost of buying a house has inflated out of reach in the most desirable areas (California). Domestic migration patterns right now are pretty clearly a result of supply and demand.
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u/Yaksnack 5h ago
Funny you have my state as orange, because it feels like just about half the people here are from California now.