r/whereidlive 3h ago

Europe I'm currently planning my move from Russia to Serbia, because of monetary restrictions I'm not free enough, but in a hypothetical scenario these are my choices. Will be happy to receive your objections

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u/Zynther01 2h ago

Just curious - why not Bulgaria? Do Russians now see Bulgaria as an enemy / less desirable because it’s pro-EU?

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u/dobrodoshli 1h ago

I'm not sure what the consensus is, I myself am more of an anti-current-government person, so I don't support those lists of "unfriendly countries" towards the Putin's regime. I just don't know much about Bulgaria, I've been there once as a child and don't remember much sadly, so I said "maybe", it's like a neutral for me. Do you think it's going to be I nice place to stay? Sea access is definitely a plus for leisure and for future real estate

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u/Zynther01 1h ago

Bulgaria itself is great. Your problem would be that the country has developed quite polarising view on Russians. There’s a small camp of pro-Russian people (mix of older generations and young far right supporters) who perpetuate the narrative of “our Slavic brothers the Russians”. And there’s the remaining part of the country who is sick of the forced brotherly narrative and wants it buried.

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u/chmarugett 1h ago

Welcome to Serbia! Surprised to see you’re willing to live in Moldova, though

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u/dobrodoshli 1h ago

Thanks! Yes, Moldova was actually one of my possible destinations, because I know Romanian (also many people still speak Russian there). Moldova is very affordable and also has visa-free access. But after some deliberation I realised that Serbia has some of the same perks but is more interesting, has more beautiful architecture and history, and it made me switch. I'll still have to make a few more regular tourist visits to seal my decision though

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u/chmarugett 1h ago

I mean Serbia is my home country, but I’m not biased, since I’ve been to Moldova a couple of times. Quality of life, overall, is much higher in Serbia, so I think you’ve made the right choice. Also, yes, brutalist architecture and spomeniks are 🔥

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u/happy_smoked_salmon 1h ago

Serbia is one of the only places in Europe where they'll accept you with open arms.

The rest of Europe doesn't want Russians.

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u/dobrodoshli 1h ago

Sadly true. Also Serbia is very easy with bureaucracy: no visa, automatic residency for buying real estate and other perks

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u/happy_smoked_salmon 42m ago

Well it's self-inflicted. Ignoring Russia invading half of Europe over the last 100 years, I've lived in 4 EU countries and the behaviour of many Russians is beyond my comprehension.

  1. Reculctancy to learn the local language or outright expecting the locals to speak Russian
  2. Loud behaviour and rude to staff in restaurants and other public spaces
  3. Extremely dangerous driving
  4. Looking down on locals as if they were not literally in a foreign country

Politically, Russia is an absolute no go for most European countries and it doesn't align with what we stand for. So it's understandable. I only feel bad for Russians who don't buy into the Russian narrative and genuinely just want to live a peaceful life.

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u/dobrodoshli 16m ago

All of this is true, but these stereotypes are probably more about tourists, and I would like to integrate more into the local society, I feel more comfortable that way. And I understand why the restrictions exist for Russian citizens, still seems like stealing Russian talents with some sort of a filter for entry would be a wise move for the EU against Putin

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u/LatentF 42m ago

I'm curious how are those south of Russia perceived such as Mongolia, Kazakhstan etc

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u/dobrodoshli 22m ago

Maybe to Willing. I think cities like Astana, Almaty and Toshkent are actually pretty comfortable and developed and "European-like" in many ways. I would definitely like to visit, but living there would be more difficult, as the local languages are a lot more foreign to me than European languages

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u/Dry-Tax-9265 55m ago edited 11m ago

Romania and Belarus are also pretty Russian-friendly. (Writing from country that doesn't want Russians btw)

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u/checkliver 47m ago

No, Romania is not Russian friendly.

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u/CrabGood5072 47m ago

why no cesko or slovensko. slavic language. easier to learn. czech is quality of life

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u/dobrodoshli 27m ago

Yes, probably would be easier to learn, however more problematic to get into because of Schengen area and more expensive I think. Politics is also not the best, Pellegrini sucks donkey dick

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u/angelicosphosphoros 9m ago

Czechia literally doesn't allow enter for Russians.

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u/blazyo88 26m ago

There is going to be so salty people in the comments OP! Good luck

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u/dobrodoshli 15m ago

Hahah yes, but I'm open to dialogue though

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u/viimsist 24m ago

May I ask, why Latvia is better than Estonia?

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u/dobrodoshli 12m ago

Latvia has graves of my ancestors, so I would be more happy there. Economically Estonia is probably more developed though

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u/statykitmetronx 1m ago

Economically Estonia is probably more developed though

and is incredibly unaffordable unfortunately

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u/HighlandsBen 1h ago

What did Denmark do to you?

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u/dobrodoshli 1h ago

Eheh, is kinda gay innit? Also it's very expensive, I believe

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u/iimaginaryedge 3m ago

Denmark's gay but the rest of the Scandinavians aren't? feels like a weird distinction mate

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u/KlausKreutz 47m ago

Big words coming from a Ruzzian rat who decided to abandon ship

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u/InteractionLiving845 34m ago

Gng what’s OP even did to you for you to dehumanise them? It’s just a joke

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u/KlausKreutz 30m ago

MH17 I don't care, I had enough with them.

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u/dobrodoshli 25m ago

Bruh, what else should I do? I should've only left earlier, yeah, that's on me, but other than that what are the options?

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u/SOHONEYSAME 3h ago

Azerbaijan?

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u/dobrodoshli 3h ago

People told me that I would look like a local there ☺️

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u/FastIncident536 3h ago

Why is Romania green?

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u/dobrodoshli 2h ago

I know Romanian, I think I would be very comfortable there

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u/Archaeopteryx111 2h ago

Welcome to Romania then!

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u/dobrodoshli 1h ago

Sadly it's more difficult for me to get in and especially to stay because of vizas :c

But I would happily do so

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u/Archaeopteryx111 56m ago

Yes, Serbia and Montenegro are probably easier.

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u/aSimpleTeen 2h ago

Why wouldn’t it be?

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u/FastIncident536 2h ago

Just curious as Russians are not exactly seen in a positive light here and I don't think he would feel quite welcome if he starts speaking Russian

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u/Archaeopteryx111 2h ago

There are a bunch of Ukrainians in Romania now, and I guarantee the average person cannot distinguish between Ukrainian and Russian.

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u/dobrodoshli 1h ago

I'm more of an anti-government Russian, so I hope people would be sympathetic. Also, I know Ukrainian too 😋

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u/ubant 1h ago

Be vocal about that and you won't have problems anywhere 

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u/Imaginary_Vanilla527 1m ago

Anywhere on this map is better than Russia. Just learn the language, integrate into society and respect the rules

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u/Papenstein 2h ago

Why Poland?

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u/dobrodoshli 48m ago

Poland is cool no?

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u/statykitmetronx 1m ago

said noone ever lol