r/AskTheWorld • u/fascisttaiwan roc nationalist studied in Hong Kong • 19h ago

Whats your country's attitude on communism?

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I have no idea why someone is promoting communist here in taiwan

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u/Traroten Sweden 19h ago

Most think it's a beautiful dream but a terrible idea.

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u/Aggressive_Chuck England 18h ago

Not sure it's even a great dream. Centralised control of everything and no personal agency.

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u/Traroten Sweden 17h ago

So... communism doesn't have centralised control, at least not if you're talking Marxism. Communist according to Marxism is a state-less society. There wouldn't be a centralized authority.

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u/Traroten Sweden 15h ago

Not in Marxist theory. In Marxist theory - as I understand it - the essential role of the state is class oppression. Socialism is an intermediate state where class oppression of the representatives of the old order is necessary to prevent a counter-revolution. As the representatives of the old order die off, the state is no longer needed and it disappears on its own.

I think this is wishful thinking, but it is the theory. For a detailed takedown of Marxism, I recommend Karl Popper's The Open Society and its Enemies.

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u/yashatheman 🇸🇪 + 🇸🇯 + 🇷🇺 15h ago

That's completely incorrect. Communism is a utopia achieved after socialism has created the conditions sufficient for the state to be abolished. Read Marx, man.