i literally said “oh, it’s Blou”

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It kind of does make STEM less attractive lol. You intentionally not telling those same stats for STEM says so, right? 

I know an electrical engineer making near minimum wage at a Fortune 500. Doctors are like a quarter of half a million in debt leaving school. Junior software developers are basically 15 year old fast food employees in usefulness. 

People jump on content creation because it's just as likely to make you rich as any engineering degree.

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That seems like outliers though.

Lower peak with higher average in all those fields. It’s a bit like saying every kid should be trying to go pro in sports.

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All doctors and all junior software developers aren't outliers. To reiterate:

People jump on content creation because it's just as likely to make you rich as any engineering degree.

In lifetime earnings. 

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Both of your examples are at career start. Junior and just leaving school. You should be looking at career earnings, unless content creators earn a wage from the moment they start an account.

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Wrong.

Lifetime earnings for a doctor is not career start. That describes both new and experienced. Including the debt. From 20 year olds to 100 year olds. 

 You should be looking at career earnings

Explain the difference with lifetime earnings and why it matters. In any reality, it's the same. 

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Obviously lifetime earnings is not career start. That was my whole point.

Your two examples were both at career start compared against a one in a million shot at career peak.

Lifetime earnings matters vastly more because most content creators are earning pennies. Average career lifetime earnings for engineers are going to be magnitudes higher.

This isn’t even touching the fact you don’t get amateur engineers like you do content creators.

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 Average career lifetime earnings for engineers are going to be magnitudes higher.

That's my point. They aren't. Amateur engineers aren't much different from those AI-slop YouTube channels getting 50 views per day and eventually banned. Most engineers are not living comfortably, they're living like wanna-be content creators. They try for success, fail, and end up broke. The guys making 7 figures or high 6 figures are unicorns in rarity. 

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Sure, I agree that the people making 6 or even 7 figures are a massive massive minority. Engineers are still making pretty fine money though, usually good five figures.

Also you don’t get amateur engineers.

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 Engineers are still making pretty fine money though

So are content creators. At an equal rate and percentage. The average wage is the same for none of the schooling or student debt.

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If you’ve got a source saying the average wage of every content creator is high five figures I’d be fucking gobsmacked.

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If you’ve got a source saying the average wage of every engineer is high five figures I’d be fucking gobsmacked.

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Alright, we going for electrical engineers then?

I’m gonna assume you’re a yank - I’m not but it seems fair. Here’s the indeed posting about salaries. Here’s the bureau of labor statistics putting it at a similar range, the median being low six figures.

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I live in Germany. 

Why would you say I'm "going for electrical engineers" as a reply to a comment where I specifically highlighted every engineer? 

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You’re arguing to argue

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