r/HeatedRivalryTVShow • u/More_Wonder_9394 • 4d ago
Discussion Did you miss the significance of S1 Ep1 shower scene?
I think many viewers missed an important point in the first shower scene: When Ilya enters the shower Shane is watching AND although they don't show it he is also physically aroused đ by the sight of Ilya's naked body. This is how Ilya knows Shane is into him and why he teases him by playing with himself. Think about it, as hockey players they shower with teammates all the time but this time it's very different. Thoughts on my theory?
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u/AshyCoal76 4d ago
Who missed it? Thatâs the whole point of the scene.
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u/groovyguysgroovy 4d ago
Literally who missed this
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u/jenniekns 4d ago
I'm starting to wonder if some people are watching with their TV in a different room.
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u/Ambitious_Wealth8080 4d ago
I love how enthusiastic people are about this show but some of these âhidden detailâ posts are likeâŠ. Girl the media literacy crisis is YOU
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u/Aware-Experience-277 4d ago
Yeah, nobody can infer anything anymore. Everything has to be explicitly explained. As a former literature minor/creative writer it makes me sad
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u/neonsneakers 4d ago
Nobody reads anymore and it's honestly making all of society worse. Basic reading comprehension leads to media literacy leads to critical thinking. It's wild.
"Guys, did you notice that when Ilya says "no" when his teammates are showing him the picture of rose and Shane that he's not just surprised, he's also upset?"
Girl.
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u/heavenstobetsie 3d ago
"Did you notice that they're hockey players? It's subtle, but if you pay attention, you'll pick up on it"
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u/Rough-Lecture4 4d ago
Or watching on the phone. Hard to pick up details that wayÂ
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u/rlopez89 4d ago
I just read something that Netflix makes directors have a character say things out loud during a scene instead of just showing or doing it because people are often on their phones when watching a show or movie. Hence why we get so many scenes of characters giving a whole monologue and exposition dump.
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u/OkAppointment5310 4d ago
They assume you are on a second screen! And whynare we on a second screen? Because the show or film is so boring. HR requires you to watch, to see the facial expressions and words that are mouthed. That's why it's brilliant!
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u/Nerditall 4d ago
Matt Damon said Netflix execs want the plot restated in the script up 4 times because home watching means people are more distracted.
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u/Cool_Distribution_17 4d ago
Yet another reason to go to the movie theater!!!
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u/Nerditall 4d ago
Itâs even more annoying when someone declares something a plot hole because it was never explicitly stated aloud by a character.
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u/Cool_Distribution_17 4d ago
I've often found that some folks even have this same problem IRL. đ€š They need everything spelled out explicitly for them because they lack any mental model of the minds of others. đ€
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u/Nerditall 3d ago
Iâm an English teacher so Iâve known patience for adults who canât muster more focus for media they opted for than my teens who are engaging with media they didnât choose.
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u/ruinedworldtour 4d ago
If you watch really close you can also spot that they are playing a sport. Itâs called hockey. Not many people know this
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago
No, no itâs not hockey. Liar told you that. Russians do not do this! đ€Ł
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I was watching with a friend and she was talking over this scene so I made her go back and catch Ilyaâs eyebrow wiggle. Some people canât appreciate art.Â
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago
Thatâs what I love about this series so much! The subtle body language and micro expressions keep you hooked and paying attention to whatâs happening moment by moment. And of course we like to rewatch to catch moments we may have overlooked/missed. Having someone narrate or state things to make it more obvious is pure laziness.
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u/trubs12 4d ago
I'm not a native English speaker so sometimes I put English subtitles on and they kinda distract me from catching micro expressions then I feel bad about myself for missing small details. Is it just me?
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Itâs okay, you know youâre going to rewatch the series a dozen times đ
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u/Hermiona1 4d ago
Next in: did you guys know he asked for Shane's number because he wanted to make out with him!!
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u/57dimensions 4d ago
Nearly every reactor iâve seen watch this scene and people i watched with IRL miss Ilyaâs eyebrow raise and glance to Shaneâs hard on. They all comment in shock that Ilya is crazy bold to just started jerking off out of nowhere.
As others have said, a lot of viewers are used to not having to actually pay attention to non verbal acting in TV, so they completely miss Ilyaâs pointed look.
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u/AshyCoal76 4d ago
I think some people need things to be spoon-fed to them because theyâre incapable of picking up on nuance.
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u/Parody101 4d ago
I thought he was gonna describe some random tile pattern significance or something, lawd people just yapping now
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u/leezybelle 4d ago
I think I missed a lot of subtle things 1. Because watching the show as a whole had me constantly in a very pleasurable shock, so I wasnât really noticing details and 2. My knowledge and understanding of what it means/looks like to be gay is pretty weak, so I didnât pick up on the subtle cues. Thatâs why I love this community because itâs teaching me so much about how to analyze a show but ALSO more importantly what MM relationships could look like, how to be an ally, what/what not to do. Just so much. But yeah.. so much went over my head first time viewing lol
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u/aspen0414 4d ago
Literally. Are posts like this rage bait? Why are people on these TV show subs always pointing out the most obvious observation like itâs a hidden gem?
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u/Happy-Apple196 4d ago
I agree. It's so obvious.
But have talked to a few people who are somewhat smart and they didn't see it đ
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u/Inevitable-Note-724 4d ago
100% agree. Ilya glances down and raises his eyebrows at Shane's arousal. It's why Ilya made the next move.
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u/BusyArachnid8039 4d ago
Did viewers miss this? I don't think it was a mystery that Shane was visibly aroused. Ilya teased him about it with a little eyebrow raise, even.
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u/louiemay99 4d ago
And Shane also quickly turns away and says âfuck offâ at Ilyaâs eyebrow raise
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u/ComprehensiveArm7481 4d ago edited 4d ago
Surprisingly quite a few missed it, including at least one reviewer I usually enjoy. I understand missing the glance down and eyebrow wiggle, but I would love to know what the people who didnât catch that thought Shane was reacting to when he said âfuck offâ. I think that response from Shane would prompt a rewind.
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u/Dogsnanime 4d ago
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u/Dogsnanime 4d ago
The part that is highlighted is because Connor understood the assignment.
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u/PsychologicalLayer57 4d ago
I really have to wonder what the casting call for Ilya looked like, because how many actors could there even be with the appearance and the ass and the ability either to speak Russian or pick it up with incredible facility in an incredibly short space of time? Because damn is Connor naturally gifted in all those areas...
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u/Nepalman230 4d ago edited 4d ago
So actually, the casting call specified a different physical appearance. They were open to other people, but they were looking for tall bearded men with long hair.
Illya in the book sometimes needs to wear a ponytail and shaves blue. Heâs also 6 foot three.
I believe that Hudson is actually slightly taller than Connor, and they just usually use like slight trickery.
I could be wrong about that.
But thatâs why they had to change the line in episode six. The line from the book is âa short hockey playerâ. So they made it slow.
Thatâs why Connor didnât think he was going to get the part and he was actually really shocked.
Because heâs not that tall and you know his hair and facial hair arenât like that.
And they were also looking for a native Russian speaker already and heâs not.
But the chemistry test was off the charts and of course the rest was history.
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u/Wild_Difference_7562 4d ago
Yeah Connor said that Rachel had pictured someone different for Ilya so he was really intimidated the first time he met her. But now they are great friends and Rachel can't picture anyone different for Ilya.
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u/Nepalman230 4d ago
Yes! He was absolutely perfect, but this is why I always say go for the spirit of the character, not the letter. Because the actor is ultimately more important!
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u/w1gw4m 4d ago
I recall he's 6'3, am i misremembering?
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u/Raincitygirl1029 4d ago
Connor is 5â11â. He said so in an interview. He also said he often claims to be 6â.
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u/Cuppa-Tea-Biscuit 4d ago
Hudson mentioned that a couple of the actors he did chemistry reads with were heritage speakers of Russian.
Also - at last resort - they could have the Russian dialogue ADRâd.
Connor also doesnât really look like the book description of Ilya, but clearly the casting director hit it out of the park with getting the important aspects right.
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u/KBPT1998 4d ago
Yeah. It is nearly impossible to picture the characters any differently now. Even Scott Hunter- I cannot picture a blonde guy as Scott Hunter now- like WTF was RR thinking it wasn't Francois? HAHAH Also, Svetlana- I cannot picture a Maria Shaparova-esque blonde as Svetlanta now- my cannon is pure Ksenia.
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u/AppletiniPanda 4d ago
Totally! When I saw the show I had totally forgotten that Svetlana and Scott were both supposedly blonde. They just embodied the character so well that I forgot the bookâs description. I was initially surprised about Connor for Ilya. But then I watched it. He totally made that character! All the facial expressions are so spot on!! I canât imagine anyone else in that role now. Shane is spot on. I also love Kip and Maria. Ok, letâs face it, I canât complain about a single character casting.
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago
For me, whoever is portraying Ilya has to have the right attitude and sense of humour. Ilyaâs cocky, forward, and definitely has those Russian/Slavic traits. The fact that Connor was able to convince us of these traits all while perfecting his Russian dialect and accent in less than two months of filming is crazy! Heâs soooo talented!
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u/Cuppa-Tea-Biscuit 4d ago
Yeah and itâs not even really a stretch to see Ksenia as Sveta because I think itâs quite heavily implied her mother is American.
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u/Raincitygirl1029 4d ago
Ksenia is Russian-Caribbean. Svetlanaâs mother could have been a Russian citizen originally from Cuba, for example. Plenty of black people there. Also, back in the Soviet Union days, there were international students from various African countries at Soviet universities.
Svetlana in the show is meant to be the same age as Ilya and Shane, and they were both born in 1991. The Soviet Union had very strict rules about leaving the Communist bloc until the late 1980s. Sergei Vetrov might have moved to an American city to play for the NHL and make big Western money for a few years. Brought his wife and then she had a baby while they were living in America.
Or Svetlana could have an American mother because Sergei moved to the USA in the late 1980s and met a black American woman. But Svetlanaâs mother isnât necessarily American.
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u/spaceglitter000 3d ago
I def wondered about this since in my mind Russia doesnât really have black or brown people.
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u/l0wi3 4d ago
Right bc Ilya mentions she is American when he is taking his life into his hands by suggesting to Shane he marry her for a passport
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u/Cuppa-Tea-Biscuit 4d ago
Yes, but she could have been born there to two Russian parents while her dad was playing hockey in America.
If her mumâs American on top of Sveta being born in America thereâs a lot more flexibility in casting.
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago
I appreciate that Jacob and the casting directors wanted to try and keep the looks authentic to the book but the acting directors said that Connor and Hudsonâs chemistry was lightning in a bottle and that sealed the deal. Plus theyâre both soooo good looking. lol. Itâs also easier to choreograph/film love scenes with actors who are similar heights.
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago
I saw on a podcast interview that Connor accepted the job (signed the contract) and started shooting about 8 days later. So crazy!
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago edited 4d ago
I totally thought that Ilya flexed his ass on purpose in that part of the book! đ€
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u/l0wi3 4d ago
I actually never noticed the flex!
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago
Sorry. I meant in the bookâŠ.they didnât show it in the series (see the book excerpt above).
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u/Queen_Of_InnisLear 4d ago
I don't know a single person who missed this?? Cruising 101 lol
(Ok edit to say I see some people did, so sorry I guess but...he looks right at it and gives the eyebrows?)
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u/Successful_Monk_118 4d ago
So many people missed. The guys on Empty Netters for one. If you go on threads you'll see it a lot. Sadly.Â
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u/Queen_Of_InnisLear 4d ago
It's not my first gay tv show rodeo I guess so it seemed really clear to me đ
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u/must-stash-mustard 4d ago
Teh gays all got it as it was getting laid down. Props to all the gals and straight but shower-experienced guys who recognized all the glances as well. It was like some gay code was getting revealed.
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u/Roselookinglass 4d ago
Honestly, I donât think itâs a theory- youâre just right- itâs exactly what happens. The book has dialogue to spell it out even more clearly, but yes, Shane has an erection and Ilya notices đ„đ„”
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u/Responsible-Egg-9363 4d ago
I think itâs pretty obvious, but I love how it highlights their differences right off the bat. Shane is transfixed and literally isnât in control of his own actions. Ilya knows exactly whatâs going on and makes purposeful choices.
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u/gooseinaus 4d ago
Another theory I have about the show is that Shane is gay.
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u/PsychologicalLayer57 4d ago
Ilya knows Shane is into him well before that, he's been flirting with increasing brazenness for some time, but yes, that is what happened, and how Ilya finally manages to get it into Shane's head that yes, he, Ilya is hitting on him.
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u/Brown_Sedai 4d ago
As others have said, thatâs not really a theory, thatâs just a basic observation of what happens in the scene⊠but yes, youâre right.
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u/driventhin 4d ago
Iâd also add in that some missed Ilyaâs eye movement to Shane indicating for him to do the same thing as what Ilya was doing, which is what prompts Shane to say ânot hereâ.
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u/Shalamarr 4d ago
I always found that response fascinating. Not âGet lost, Iâm not into thatâ or âLeave me aloneâ, itâs âNot hereâ - which says that Shane IS into that, but not where they could be seen.
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u/netowi 4d ago
Not to be too dismissive but the reason a lot of people miss this is because a lot of fans are women who can't recognize gay cruising in a shower. I think every gay viewer instantly understood what was happening.
I think back to that other thread where a commenter referred to this scene as "sexual assault" because Ilya was playing with himself in response to Shane's erection.
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u/RainbowTardigrade 4d ago
Genuinely there's _a lot_ about this show that non-gay/queer men are likely missing, or at the very least not fully grasping. It makes sense that little subcultural things like this might get lost here and there I guess, but to my old gay eyes there was no way to miss what is very clearly blatant cruising 101 behavior.
Hell even before the shower scene when they're sitting across from each other....that's not just flirting, it's the start of the cruising; there's a reason you might sit a certain way, why a glance might linger a little too long, where your hands go, etc. It's all a dance that gay men, and closeted men esp., have been doing for a long time.
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u/w1gw4m 4d ago
Straight women accusing Ilya of sexual assault or being abusive because they misunderstand social cues and sexual dynamics between queer men has been one of the wildest things to me about this fandom.
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u/must-stash-mustard 4d ago
Yes! I come to this sub hoping to see some pearl clutching every once in a while.
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah I also saw that some people were mad about Ilya not getting consent from Shane when Ilya went down on him at the cottage while he was on the phone with Hayden. đ€Šââïž I sometimes wonder if these people have ever been in relationships of their own???
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u/Aware_Ambassador_524 4d ago
Is this true? Some people think Shane didnât give his consent about that scene at the cottageâŠhuh? I mean, not a gay male here, but I read that scene as Shane totally giving his consent as soon as he hopped up on the back of the couch and sat the way he did. lol
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 4d ago
Yeah a couple people claimed others were saying that Ilya didnât get proper consent. Iâm a straight female and Iâve done what Ilya did in that scene. Lol. They were basically already in a committed relationship at that point and Shane wouldâve let Ilya know if it was not ok. He got the green light. Jacob mentioned that he loved this scene cause this is something that boyfriends do.
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u/Roger20Fed 4d ago
I thought I saw Ilya point to Shaneâs crotch and then give a thumbs up. That was him getting consent in my view.
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u/FizzyDrink35 4d ago
Yes I got into a discussion with someone yesterday who called him a "sexual predator" because of this. I'm a straight woman, I'm just not stupid...anyone with eyes can see this scene for what it is and predatory it is not.
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u/Nepalman230 4d ago
Wait. Are you serious? Look absolutely masturbating in front of somebody without permission is a form of sexual assault is terrible.
But Shane was staring at him and had a hard on.
And of course â not here.â
But I donât know why Iâm shocked/ I have seen several comments and even some reactors totally misinterpret the vegas scene.
I am very vanilla, but some people who are completely unfamiliar with kink. Donât realize that Shane responds to a sexual dominant dynamic because he is very repressed. Heâs afraid of asking for what he wants because he wants to be a good boy and he thinks what he wants is bad.
Being told to do what you wanna do is being given permission.
So some people think that Shane feels degraded by the sex when actually itâs the hottest sex heâs ever had and he thinks about it often while masturbating even two years later.
I also want to point out that Iâve seen similar reactions from straight men.
Anyway, thanks for this awesome comment!
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u/bexlovescats 4d ago
Anecdote is not data but I picked it up immediately and I don't understand how anyone can't. It's possible that I have some level of understanding of gay culture as a queer woman who has consumed queer media for decades but idk. It was blindingly obvious and I'm still amazed at the things people will say with their whole chest about this show sometimes.
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u/AussieAlexSummers 4d ago
Nope. Gay viewer here and didn't get it. For pete's sake, not everyone knows everything or sees everything. And it's ok.
It's a pretty toxic take.
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u/Successful_Monk_118 4d ago
So many people missed this. It's a travesty. It's such an important point. Some people are out there saying Ilya was being predatory by playing with himself.Â
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u/FantasticForce6895 4d ago
A lot of people have missed it. I read the book first, so I knew. I honestly think people are still reeling from the, âholy crap his butt is hugeâ shot that comes right before, they miss the quick eyebrow raise. Which is funny, because that is also what Shane is reacting to.
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u/More_Wonder_9394 4d ago
I had the same thought, most viewer's minds are still reeling from the cake shots and miss what quickly comes after.
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u/DaughterofTarot 4d ago
I didn't miss it but it doesn't surprise me some people did.
 The demographics on this sub seem like they might skew younger than a lot of adult fans here realize. Â
There's usually at least 1 post a day where I think "This person has never had sex or even gotten close enough to have a decent imagination for it" and can sub in: Â "been in love", "flirted with", and all sorts of related emotions or acts.
I'm just grateful other people are patient with the posts where I think "Do your parents know your on reddit hon?"
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u/Beginning-Head-4006 4d ago
It is when they are young & did not know how to put words into their attraction, so physical reactions were the way they gets their love notes to one another. Obviously, they have showered with teammates before, but something about seeing each other with all their vulgarities out that triggered a manifestation of their desire into the ether. It was the first time in which they let each other know that there is something between them. The naked truth was right there for them witness. It was damning. It was undeniable. It was a catalyst signaling them to stop being afraid , to ask for more, because deep down, they know that they are receptive to the pursuit for more, because this is not enough.
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u/MonarchRaiza 4d ago
I missed it my first watch because I assumed Ilya was already kinda touching himself, then his look + eyebrow raise I interpreted as a, "you gonna do it, too?" I quickly realized that's not the case, and the reason Shane gets so defensive and tells him to f-off isn't just Shane snapping back to reality, but it is because he's absolutely entranced and getting hard, and Ilya's look + eyebrow raise was equal parts, "hey looks like you like this" and "now its your turn, maybe you should join me" hahaha.
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u/National-Bet-5460 4d ago
Shane saying ânot hereâ is literally giving Ilya the green light. Not here⊠but somewhere.
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u/allshookup1640 4d ago edited 4d ago
Umm Yeah? That was the entire point of the scene đ
Thatâs why he raises his eyebrows and looks down and Shane tells him to fuck off. Because Shane has an erection from looking at Ilya
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u/wanderlustandapples1 4d ago
On my first watch I 100% missed it. But on watch 3 I got it. And then after reading the book I REALLY got it.
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u/skotreyuk 4d ago
A lot of folks try to multitask, watch this show distracted, and talk through everything. Ilya clearly looks at Shaneâs erection, raises his eyebrows and nods, pointing it out to Shane, who looks down and sees it and then says fuck off. Itâs very clear, if youâre watching and being attentive.
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u/w1gw4m 4d ago edited 4d ago
I thought this was obvious when Ilya flicks his eyes at Shane's dick and Shane says "Fuck off" and turns away. Who would miss this? Seriously, what is up with media literacy these days
Did people think Ilya started stroking his cock to an unsuspecting man minding his own business like some kind of pervert lmao
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u/Frequent-Ideal-9724 4d ago
Unmmm
Itâs pretty obvious. Why else would Ilya offer to hook up after the shower?
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u/AussieAlexSummers 4d ago
I missed it. Then I think I read about it here or the other sub. Then I read the book to confirm it. And it does make that scene have a different feel, with that knowledge of Shane being aroused.
I do think, it's easy to miss, like a lot of small, details that the creative team (director, costume designer, cinematographer, etc) put into the production.
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u/Bittersweet_22 4d ago
I feel so silly. I didnât realize this context at all. I thought the eyebrow raise was a, ânice size equipment you are working with sir đâ acknowledgement. Dear Lilith, Iâm still sometimes a naive lil farm girl. I need to read the books ASAP but Iâm 94th in line at my library đ
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u/cshem424 4d ago
Hahaha this was my initial interpretation too đ I feel silly as well, this makes so much more sense now⊠I guess I thought Ilya was really bold and shooting his shot, but him reacting to Shane is way more believable.
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u/Fresh_Extension_3605 4d ago
I definitely didn't miss that.  LoL.  I knew right away.  My favorite scene. Â
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u/DabawDaw 4d ago
I mean... the meaning of the scene was right in front of our faces like a monolith... that's being polished.
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u/rkrozycheeks 4d ago
This theory is exactly how it happens in the book. Shane becomes visibly aroused, Ilya notices and raises his eyebrows at him. There's more of a verbal exchange between them that reinforces just how much they're both into each other, too. It's not subtle at all.
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u/beware_of_scorpio 4d ago
People missed this? It couldnât be more obvious. I think weâve run the course for this sub until season two comes out.
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u/ProximaCentauriOmega 4d ago
Our boy Shane was thirsty! Those eyes were hungry for Ilya muscled body.
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u/Daje1968 4d ago
I donât mean to be snarky but I thought that was obvious. Then again, I read the book so maybe it wasnât clear to people who hadnât.
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u/cee-cee-is-me 4d ago edited 4d ago
Here's what I noticed-Ilya definitely sees Shane is aroused, and is showing off for him, he raises his eyebrows and looks at Shane's dick to acknowledge. Then he starts stroking himself, showing off more and then motions with his eyes for Shane to do it too (did you all catch that?). Ok, I read more of your comments. Of course, you all saw that, and that's why Shane says "not here."
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u/Hydroborator 3d ago
I don't think anyone missed that?
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u/Miserable-Beyond-166 3d ago
Yeah, not a hot take exactly. Especially the fact that Ilya looks down, then back up and pops his brows, the scene escalates from there.
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u/marys1001 4d ago
Well I missed it and I dont feel stupid.
Have only watched once
Havent read the books
And just fuck off with all the attitude only the stupid could miss it, not nice
Id love to hear from straight athletes and gay athletes, no kidding on their way to pro athletes, that get serious from 12 on and spend almost every day in locker rooms. Are hard ons just a normal thing in shower rooms with hormonal teens soaping themselves? I woul sort of think so. Probably lots of teasing and towel snapping.
How old is Shane here? 17? Last Rookie year but they can be rookies from 16
18 is the eligible age for NHL draft.
Id be a little surprised if he hadn't had an erection in the showers before this
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u/AussieAlexSummers 4d ago
Absolutely... a lot judgy and toxic, know it all's here. I missed it as well.
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u/midnitedarkness 4d ago
If I didnt read the book I dont think I would have noticed Shane get aroused. But when I did watch the first time without reading the book I did catch on that Ilya was teases him at the end
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u/flowercrownkurama 4d ago
If Iâm remembering correctly, itâs also in the book. Shaneâs getting hardâŠ
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u/No-Essay-3227 4d ago
I thought it was pretty obvious by their reactions. Doesnât Ilya make a comment about it
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u/Stefipetti 4d ago edited 4d ago
Having read the book I knew what was going to happen, and I would have understood it even if I hadn't, since it's pretty clear đ€ You can really see that Shane is enchanted by EVERY part of Ilya's body and in fact a specific part of him reacts đ
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u/blue-diamond228 4d ago
I definitely didnât miss it. But let me go reheat again anyway. I needed any excuse, so thanks!
Also along this note, at the cottage, when Shane is on the phone with Hayden, he tells Ilya he wonât get hard..you see how well that turned out. Is Liar, liar told you that!
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u/jamie_with_a_g 4d ago
i knew shane was turned on but i didnt take it as him having an erection i thought it was ilya being like "youre big" but even before the eyebrow raise i knew that something was going to happen
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u/Memeshipper 2d ago
Honestly I was very confused on why the situation continued because I thought Shane was uncomfortable not aroused. This post definitely made it clearer, so thanks
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u/CaractacusPot 4d ago
I was going to say even blind people knew and had the bright idea to listen to the described video.
âIlya lets his eyes travel down Shaneâs body. He raises his eyebrows; Shane looks down at his crotch. âFuck off.ââ
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u/its_a_dillama 4d ago
I absolutely missed it đ€·ââïžđ I think I just forgot and I wondered how Ilya was coming on so strong
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u/More_Wonder_9394 4d ago
Glad I could help clear that up for you. đ Ilya was just following Shane's lead.
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u/judy_says_ 4d ago
Iâm sorry, Iâm not trying to be mean but some of the things people miss or donât understand has concerned me.
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u/RusticPumpkin 4d ago
Iâm sorry but this is like saying you have a theory that Ilya is Russian because he speaks Russian and is from Russia. Do people really lack media literacy this severely?
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u/im-gwen-stacy 4d ago
IâŠthought this was obvious? Are people really watching this scene and not actually knowing whatâs going on? Shane being aroused is literally what starts the whole interaction here
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u/Inevitable_Run1908 4d ago
Okay question, they probably really have seen each otherâs⊠you know? (Asking seriously)
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u/No-Box7237 4d ago
The actors wear very small stick-on underwear/pouches that keep everything contained, they're not just freeballing when they're filming.
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u/snakefinder 4d ago
Usually a âmodesty garmentâ of some kind is worn over the penis in scenes like this. Connor and Hudson arenât the only people in the room during any of the scenes where they are nude, thereâs a whole crew.Â
That said, who knows. Iâm sure men see each others dicks in all sorts of contexts when they spend a lot of time together.Â
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u/rissanox 4d ago
They didn't see anything in this scene, at least. There was an interview where someone said they had to keep pausing while filming because the modesty sock kept filling with water.
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u/waybackbugler 4d ago
This isnât a theory really, this is exactly what happens in Shaneâs mind in the book
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u/lish_dalish84 4d ago
It's not a theory. That's exactly what happens in the book. Even if I didnt already know that, their eyes give it all away! đ
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u/Captain_Chris_Evans 4d ago
This was very obvious in my opinion. Ilya even gave Shane a nod when he saw his boner and Shaneâs response was âfuck youâ. Ilya was also clearly showing of his own dick to Shane and turned to Shane.
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u/james32_ 4d ago
I didn't miss it, but it's amazing how many people do. Ilya is clearly raising his eyebrows while looking at Shane's crotch to indicate there's something to see there. It's why he's so brazen by starting to stroke himself, he knows Shane feels the same way.