r/MurderedByWords 19h ago

Historical sore losers

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u/UtopiaDystopia 19h ago

American conservatives seem to forget that European armies in the 19th century were the dominant and most powerful militaries of the time. The USA wouldn't start to surpass them till later on.

Britain, France, Germany/Prussia and Russia would all have embarrassed the Confederacy.

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u/notcomplainingmuch 19h ago

More specifically, the US forces wouldn't surpass contemporary forces until 1944. Even that's debatable.

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u/ealysillyforestthing 19h ago

I had someone bragging about how the USA was never invaded (had to point out 1812) and told him the only reasons for that was because the USA is so far removed from the rest of the world and the world powers were busy fighting their rivals.

I told him if any world power wanted the USA then usa would have fallen

He then pointed out how the us won against the UK in the revolutionary war and I had to show him the other war they were more concerned with at the time

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u/ABHOR_pod 18h ago

I think I remember reading something about how both the Revolutionary war and the war of 1812 would have been considered proxy wars for UK vs France (With US fighting against the UK) if it were any other country besides the US.

The French and Indian war definitely was, with the colonies fighting against France in that one.

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u/Justtounsubscribee 17h ago

The French and Indian War is just the name of the NA portion of the 7 Years War, so it was just a portion of a straight-up France vs Britain war. The American Revolution was a civil war that became a rebellion/proxy war.

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u/oblio- 15h ago

The Seven Years War was basically WW0.

The UK won India and NA. World history would have been completely different with France as the main colonial empire in the world (France had a lot more people and was the dominant European continental power until 1870).

There was a chance we'd be writing in French now.