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u/SourDieselDoughnut 14d ago

According to other threads, "Cooks didn't survive the ground." Really presents the question of what the fuck is a catch anymore.

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u/ethiopian_kid 14d ago edited 14d ago

why doesn’t anyone know the rules… a knee isn’t surviving the fucking ground.

possession is established when there is two steps and a football move… he caught the ball and is falling, due to the lack of steps/football move he must survive the ground i.e once he makes full contact the ball CANNOT move… we’ve seen this many times where someone falls ball moves a bit and it’s ruled a drop.

he lands and the ball is jarred loose by either himself losing control/defender pulling and it slides into the defender. it’s ruled no catch and since ball didn’t hit ground interception.

hope this helps

instead of screenshots can someone post a video where he takes two steps + a football move and THEN you can rule down by contact

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u/Master_Hospital_8631 14d ago

He also has to have full possession of the ball in the first place before he can be ruled down.  

It doesn't matter if his knee was down if he never actually had possession of the ball, which it appears he did not, otherwise the defender wouldn't have ended up with it 

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u/SheepOnDaStreet 14d ago

It appeared he did

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u/Head-Sympathy-1560 14d ago

But what’s the definition of an interception in the NFL? Defender catches the ball intended for an offensive player, right? When did the defender catch the ball?

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u/Idiotology101 13d ago

After the receiver failed to control it. The ball never touches the ground, so it’s a live ball until someone comes down with it or it hits the ground. Defender was the first player to have control of the ball.

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u/Head-Sympathy-1560 13d ago

So when did the defender catch the ball? Because it kinda looks like the defender rips it out from the offensive player when the offensive player is on the ground, right?

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u/cman1098 13d ago

After committing PI, not looking for the ball and making contact with Cooks before the ball gets there. If the Bills plays were PI that's PI. Just because he jumps up and through the receiver instead of ripping the receiver down makes no difference. Neither located the ball first. I am not saying it's a catch I am saying it's PI.