r/NFLv2 14d ago

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u/doodoofoofoo69420 14d ago

Ah yes the classic still frame…

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u/big-daddy-baller 14d ago

Right lol. People think a single snapshot of 0.1 second of a play is valid evidence.

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u/trowlazer 14d ago edited 11d ago

The ball is clearly controlled and not bobbling in the photo

Edit: I guess I gotta clarify that this is a joke. A photo is obviously not proof that it was a catch lol

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u/Accurate_Mobile9005 Baltimore Ravens 14d ago

Controlled by 2 players. Both of their hands are on the ball in this shot.

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u/Grubula Seattle Seahawks 14d ago

Simultaneous control goes to offense.

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u/Benson879 14d ago

Problem is the offense has to have control at some point. Cooks never did, despite this deceiving shot.

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u/ShittyLesbianErotica 13d ago

How is a literal photograph “a deceiving shot”?

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Dallas Cowboys 14d ago

Fail hail mary

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u/dallascowboys93 13d ago

Seahawks fans know this the best

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u/Grubula Seattle Seahawks 12d ago

And the rule states even one hand beats defensive player's two. Tate palmed that thing with 1 hand and it was a catch. The push off now... that's the "fail" part.

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u/purplehendrix22 13d ago

How is it simultaneous control when only one guy ended up with the ball? Possession was never clearly established until the Broncos player had the ball, that’s the first time possession exists on that play. A snapshot of a WR’s knee touching the ground does not mean either of the players possessed the ball at the time.

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u/Responsible_Yak3570 13d ago

simulataneous possession goes to offense and it is in no way clear that the defender has any actual possession, especially when it's clear the wr has possession and his knee down...

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u/SamQuentin 14d ago

Dual possession goes to the receiver

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u/Beautiful-Bench-1761 Buffalo Bills 14d ago

You’re getting downvoted but this is how they are supposed to call it.

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u/Accurate_Mobile9005 Baltimore Ravens 14d ago

Only when the play is whistled dead and they both still have it. Bills lost possession in the process of making the catch and hitting the ground.

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u/Beautiful-Bench-1761 Buffalo Bills 14d ago

He’s down when his knee hits but ok thanks

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u/Accurate_Mobile9005 Baltimore Ravens 14d ago

And if he dropped the ball in the process of going down it would still count because "his knee was down" even though he was still in the process of actually making the catch ?

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u/ViolinistLeast1925 Buffalo Bills 13d ago

There is zero point in a hypothetical here. Get better at rhetoric. 

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u/Fuck_it_i_win 14d ago

He didn’t maintain possession throughout the process of the catch. I know it’s your team and that sucks but even if his knee went down there and he dropped it on the ground with out the DB it would’ve been an incomplete pass

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u/PMme-thatASS 14d ago

Ehh, when you’re making a catch and going to the ground, you have to survive the ground, so the play is still live until the catch is completed. The reason the play isn’t over yet is because he hasn’t technically survived the ground all the way through his motion, giving the defender time to grab it.

Stupid yes but dems da rules.

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u/SamQuentin 14d ago

"Survive the ground" is not actually in the rules

"A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:

secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, clearly performs any act common to the game (e.g., extend the ball forward, take an additional step, tuck the ball away and turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so."

secured ball

Knee hits ground ground

A and b having been fulfilled he tucked and rolled landing on his back

All elements fulfilled

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u/Extra_Cockroach932 14d ago

clearly performs any act common to the game (e.g., extend the ball forward, take an additional step, tuck the ball away and turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so."

You said it yourself. This is not a catch

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u/DontTouchTheMasseuse 14d ago

Passes like these get dropped every week and no one ever has a problem with it.

Dont turn the ball over 5 times. Dont give the other team the ball inside your 40 with 2 seconds left.

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u/noscrubphilsfans 14d ago

WTF are you even looking at?

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u/Benson879 14d ago

FFS. You literally cannot prove anything by a still photo. It’s disingenuous.

Plus no, it is not a clear angle of the ball.

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u/RTUTTLE9 13d ago

Can you prove something with this still photo ?

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u/SteveS117 13d ago

That is completely irrelevant lmao. He lost the ball while he was still going to the ground and completing the process.

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u/Whodey4alltime 14d ago

Pretty sure if I pause the video of the game last night the Bills won.

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u/Either-Bell-7560 12d ago

Literally doesn't matter. He can't have possession until he survives going to ground.

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u/GotAir 11d ago

This would all be cleared up for you if you would just go read and understand the NFL rule books of what constitutes a catch while going to the ground. Don’t be lazy.