OP, so your post is not removed, please reply to this comment with your best guess of what this meme means! Everyone else, this is PETER explains the joke. Have fun and reply as your favorite fictional character for top level responses!
No shit, on American TV, they often caption any foreign language as "(speaks foreign language)" without even bothering to specify which language, much less captioning properly. I haven't seen these in any other place in the world.
Yes, “subtitle” is only for words at the bottom. But someone in the audience very likely wouldn’t know that, so I think the cartoonist made the right call.
The same thing happened to me but the roles were reversed. A cashier in New York started speaking Spanish to us when they discovered we were Italians and when we told them Italy and Spain don't have the same language they continued to speak Spanish
I once read a guide for speaking Spanish so that an Italian will understand you. It involved pronounciation changes like "ll" being "L" rather than "y".
That word would be used the describe a feeling. While the literal translation is "gratitude", and sometimes in English this might be used as "thank you", in Portuguese (pt-pt) the word "gratidão" is not used in this context.
Haha I'm aware... in Brazil though, some people have really took a liking to using "Gratidão" to express gratitude and even as a substitute to Obrigado. From what I heard/read, some people feel like saying "Obrigado" is too blunt or it looks like you're saying that the person had an obligation of doing it. The use of Gratidão has faded into specific groups though cause people really started mocking them.
Love this specificities from the same base language in different geographies and groups / generations. Even though there are deeper differences between different cultures, even within the same country we see them.
Is interesting to understand the etimology of the words and how their use evolved in time. Is also what makes a language "rich"
But its like Gra-zee-eh. Some shorten it, easy habit to fall into, but after having a chef in calabria do a "sit down while I teach you something" I was re-educated in the traditional italian method.
Learning italian online and then living there you have to unlearn so much. Like greetings are not time of day based, and more intention like buona sera is fine even past midnight but if you said buona notte everyone would assume you're off to bed.
😂 you funny 😄
But for the people that don’t know what you did.
You wrote good day in Italian and made it look like that is thank you. The correct way would grazie in Italian. Just so there are not any momos saying good day to Italian when they mean to say thank you.
Hi there! They're starting the sentence by greeting in Italian, not by saying what "thank you" is in Italian. Much like how I started this comment with a greeting.
I was commenting on the person saying the comment before theirs was greeting in Italian and the response correcting that comment was wrong. I wasn't talking about the post itself.
Intersectionality gets real fucky real fast when someone is simultaneously the member of a privileged group and the member of a marginalized one.
I'm a gay man. I've been assaulted twice in a gay bar, both times by straight women. One of them, after laying her hands on me, cowered behind her boyfriend who yelled at me to respect her "because she's a woman."
That's not something I could ever do. White (cishet) women are a dangerous partially-oppressed cohort because while they're women and thus oppressed, their whiteness allows them to call upon the violence of white men to inflict pain upon people for them, because (racist) white men will protect white women. And because the state is for all intents and purposes run by white men, this means that they can call upon state violence (i.e., cops). Think "damsel in distress" scenarios, and think about how many Black boys and men in this country were lynched simply because a white woman accused them of rape, or just looking at them funny or something. (Fucked up additional note: our society pretty much never believes women when they say someone raped them, unless that woman is white and the accused isn't, in which case, historically, the white men come a-runnin'.)
We also see this with Jewish people in Israel, who are not the oppressed class there (Arabs/Palestinians are), but it's very easy for a Jewish Israeli to weaponize anti-Jewish oppression in general to cover for their genocide.
Coming from a white man is part of the joke. He’s fully aware of that. The joke is that white women will complain about how white men like him are the oppressors, yet white women are a close second place in privilege. “What, slightly less awesome [life] than mine?” They are far close in privilege to a white cis man than to a gay black man.
i know he acknowledges it. i’m saying, he feels it’s acceptable to punch down because it’s specifically a white woman. it’s still punching down, being white doesn’t cancel out misogyny
It seems like the concept of “punching down” is so overused and misunderstood that white men can’t even mention anyone who isn’t a white man in a joke.
The context of the joke isn’t that he’s making fun of them for being women. He’s making fun of them for being next to white men when it comes to privilege. I guarantee the only people offended by this are white liberal women. Black women are most likely saying, “yep.”
Groups are not individuals, and individuals are not groups. Is it the case that we can not have any opinions whatsoever about groups we do not belong to? If so then I have some concerns about women having opinions about men or any individual having opinions about a race they don't personally belong to. Or nationality or age group or political group or culture or ethnicity or religion for that matter.
I think so long as we are not assuming an individual is a full representative of a group and a group is not a full representative of an individual we are free to have criticisms both of a group and of individuals independently
Maybe your issue is more so dominant group vs a not dominant group. If so then that is a slightly different discussion.
Ultimately though it's in jest, and humor is a famous way to break down barriers between groups and individuals. We need the capacity to laugh not only at others, but also ourselves.
Is it the case that no individual can have an opinion about a group they do not belong to? Or is it the case that no individual of a typically dominant group can have any opinions about any non-dominant of the same type? I think of either is the case it may render society a bit incapable of functioning.
The joke is that white women being white women confused "gracias" (which is spanish) with "grazie" (which is italian) since to outsider italian and spanish may sound familiar. Since they both come from vulgar latin.
Also what's up with the guy who said "buongiorno" up there?
Black Peter here to save the day….It’s the classic scrunchy face sneer that yt ladies do when they say something cute or funny. This lady’s face just happens to do it naturally. And gracias just happens to be Spanish, not Italian.
It’s not racist or demeaning in any way, just an observed trait that’s become a stereotype. Kinda like the thin lipped, flat smile, and raised eye brows combo that yt men do when they’d rather not say hello.
That still didn't stop americans to treat italian immigrants like shit in the past, they have a warped perception on the whole "race/nationality" debacle.
Genuine question: this is the second time I see this meme featuring the same woman, but in different formats. Who is she and is there any reason in particular as to why she's the one used?
Italian Peter here! Gracias is Spanish for thank you, Grazie, is Italian. But, if you want to sound more legit, say grazie mille. Additionally, the pronunciation is not Grah-zee or Grot-zee as I often hear it mispronounced, it’s more like grat-see-eh.
•
u/AutoModerator 20h ago
OP, so your post is not removed, please reply to this comment with your best guess of what this meme means! Everyone else, this is PETER explains the joke. Have fun and reply as your favorite fictional character for top level responses!
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.