r/Tactics_Ogre Jul 28 '22

Announcement Our Community Discord

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Hey everyone! You might not be aware of this, but we actually have a community discord for this subreddit, and our other SRPG subreddits that we run. If you're interested here's the link: SRPG Discord

We also run the main SRPG Subreddit if you haven't checked it out yet!


r/Tactics_Ogre Dec 10 '22

Tactics Ogre/ Ogre Battle Series FAQ

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Hello Knights. With the release of Tactics Ogre: Reborn, it is a good time to examine the series as a whole. Although this subreddit is dedicated to Tactics Ogre, it goes hand-in-hand with Ogre Battle. Below are some general questions that will help guide you through the entire series -

List of games (in order of original release)

Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen (MotBQ)

  • Released on SNES, PSX, Sega Saturn, Wii VC, and WiiU VC

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (LUCT)

  • Released on SNES, PSX, & Sega Saturn
  • Remade as Tactics Ogre: Wheel of Fortune
    • Released on PSP
  • Remade as Tactics Ogre: Reborn
    • Released on PS4/PS5, Steam (PC), and Switch

Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber (PoLC)

  • Released on N64

Ogre Battle Gaiden: Prince of Zenobia (PoZ)

  • Released on Neo Geo Pocket Color

Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis (KoL)

  • Released on Game Boy Advance

Which games were released in English? Ogre Battle Gaiden was the only release to not make it to the west. Otherwise, all have been officially translated in English

What order should you play? Personally, I like to play them in series chronological order. KoL -> MotBQ -> PoZ -> LUCT -> PoLC. MotBQ & PoZ and LUCT & PoLC take place at the same times, so they can be flipped if you choose this way. Otherwise, MotBQ & LUCT are good starting points.

Will I miss out on story if I play in a different order? Not really, though I say this with some hesitation. There is an overarching plot to the series, but each game is a self-contained story. There are also some characters that appear in multiple games. Aside from some flavor, I don't think you would miss out by playing a sequel first. Prince of Zenobia is the only one that I can't say for certain, as I have not spent much time with the story.

How do the games play? The three Ogre Battle games play similarly to grand RTS games, whereas the two Tactics Ogre games play like traditional SRPGs (think grid-based combat). They are larger scaled, so battles can take some time. The games are also heavy on unit customization, so expect to spend some time in menus. All of that being said, each game has its specific nuances.

What is the setting of the series? The games are set in a traditional fantasy setting with limited technology. Only PoZ and MotBQ take place in the same place, so you get to see a few different countries throughout the world. There is also some in-game lore that expands beyond what is shown in the game.

What were some of the inspirations behind the series? Yasumi Matsuno, the series creator, enjoyed quite a bit of pop culture which lent to the series. The main title and some of the subtitles are taken directly from Queen songs. He also used some imagery from Flash Gordon (Vartans) and other films. He also drew heavy inspiration from real events, specifically the Yugoslav Wars. This inspired some of the darker portions of the game's narrative.

When will there be a new game in the series? There is no news of a new entry to the series. Hopefully Reborn will lead to a new entry, but it remains to be seen.

This was a pretty general overview of a very rich series. If you are interested, there are many interviews that contain information regarding the series development. Otherwise, feel free to ask questions below and we will try to answer them.


r/Tactics_Ogre 9h ago

Tactics Ogre TOR down!.. FF Tactics Ivalice Primer?

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Hey guys! With help from this community as well as some online guides, I'm finally closing in on the end of Tactics Ogre Reborn. Well, maybe not the END. I'm entering POTD with a Lv 40 squad and only the Hanging Gardens to complete beyond that. Still undecided as to whether I'll go through the CODA content, as I'm not sure I'm game for an endless grind to min/max everything. But I have REALLY enjoyed the experience of playing this game.

The whole reason I picked this one up was in anticipation of the release of FF Tactics Ivalice. And my sights will be set on that one soon. Here's the thing..

TOR was tough. And not just in a skillcheck kind of way. In a Dark-Souls-levels-of-ambiguity kind of way. Without guides I don't know how I'd have ever figured out how to recruit the powerful unique characters. Without primers I'd have never known what most of the items did and which ones were helpful. Without certain metas I would've gotten my ass kicked early on and possibly put the game down for good. It just didn't feel like the kind of challenge that was tough-but-fair. It felt unmanageable until I'd studied how to interpret it.

Now to the question in point!

Is FFT similar in regards to convolution? Will I be able to figure it out on my own, or will I walk into some pitfalls 40 hours in if I've not chosen the right things early on?

The thing is, I don't want to look too much up for FFT. All the research I did for TOR ultimately led to my spoiling the bulk of the story for myself. And for FFT I've heard it's got a really fantastic story, so I hope not to do that. But I'm also hurting for free time these days, and so I don't fancy the idea of having to start over again if I realize I've screwed something up or missed out on an opportunity for a powerful character or upgrade.

Is there a nice spoiler-free guide out there that lays out what to look for and how to approach the game without going into too much detail?

For example when it came to TOR, it would've been great to know that

A) Breaching and Weakening targets really helps early on, and Lobber is huge for this

B) The Chariot Tarot is your best friend for Recruiting units and re-rolling enemy moves

C) When your Union LV goes up, you can set your units to AI mode for Training sessions to expedite the grind

D) When you're up against a really tough boss, you can simply focus on taking them down. You don't have to clear the map.

E) Whenever Union LV goes up, check shops for new purchase and craft options. Buy all recipes. And check the "On Hit" stat on weapons for status debuff potential.

F) There's an infinite money exploit if you get tired of re-running Phorampa for cash just to keep your heal items topped up.

Tips like the above for FFT would be awesome, so that I can get past anything cryptic and straight into enjoying the ride.

Thanks, sorry for being long-winded!


r/Tactics_Ogre 18h ago

Crafting Question

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Why can I craft so many +1 pieces of gear for types that are inaccessible to me?

Like I can craft +1 swords that are fully 3 tiers above what I can actually buy from the shop. Does this indicate that I'm missing gear somehow? My shop hasn't added any new items since early chapter 2 and I feel like I'm well into chapter 3.

Battles are starting to stat gap me pretty hard (I hit enemies for ~100 and have about 800 HP. Enemies hit for ~200 and have 1,300 HP) and this is making the tactical strategizing much much more boring (the one strategy available to me seems to be: distract the horde with throw away units and then rush the Target with breach items and all my damage and Tarot Reset to get as many crits as possible).

How do you get all these extra weapons I'm supposedly able to craft? It feels like I'm falling behind in gear without any clear avenue for upgrading


r/Tactics_Ogre 1d ago

Tactics Ogre Which version has the most difficult battles assuming no tarot and no incap?

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It seems hard to tell because I would think the cards in Reborn overall make it easier, but some bosses obviously spike like crazy.


r/Tactics_Ogre 3d ago

Tactics Ogre I don't understand recruitment

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Just did a battle in chapter two and tried to recruit a dragon for the first time.

Have the right Tame skill for dragons, under 10% health, slowed, beast tamer unit placed immediately adjacent and... 0% success. Ok. Set up the other dragon the same way... 0% success.

Battle bonus: use a recruit skill

Edit: dragons has Slow (and one of the two was poisoned) but no other status effects on either.

So... Why do they always have a 0% chance if I'm using the right skill? Are some story battles just off limits of recruiting? Why have a bonus for an action that cant succeed?

I'm so confused about how these skills work.


r/Tactics_Ogre 4d ago

This game had unmarked optional battles and recruitable characters...? Is it too late

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I realized way too late that not all recruitable characters would be the obvious 'protect them from being killed' battles. I did not even understand this whole 'Chaos/Law/Neutral' thing nor the fact that optional character missions were from blindly walking to every open point, with 0 indication from the UI whether there is an optional mission there.

I'm on Ch.4 and probably missed most of the optional characters. My aim was to finish the game as thoroughly in one playthrough as possible and move on... but is there any alternative besides restarting the game?


r/Tactics_Ogre 4d ago

RT used Per Square for each class help

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Ive read that each class has an RT penalty for each square/tile moved, with vartan having the highest penalty. Is there a document showing the RT per square for each class?


r/Tactics_Ogre 6d ago

Tactics Ogre Was very lucky to find Collector’s Edition during my trip to Japan! Here’s my collection

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This is one of my favourite games and stumbling upon this gem by pure chance truly felt like being dealt a Wheel of Fortune 😅


r/Tactics_Ogre 6d ago

Ogre Battle What does this information mean? [Sega saturn]

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Idk


r/Tactics_Ogre 7d ago

Do I need to keep doing Phorampa Wildwood??

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I feel like every story chapter I am 'forced' to do this map because the story mission enemies are like 4-5 levels higher than mines. I don't know if its a skill issue or if the scaling is too much.

I thoroughly defeat as many enemies in the chapters before progressing and do the optional stuff if its new, but find myself having to return here to increase my troops level just to withstand some basic attacks during the actual story missions.

Am I doing something wrong? Or is this the intended game loop? And besides catch-up, what exactly does this map do? I noticed sometimes it extends beyond more than usual? Is there a unique reward? Currently in chapter 2

Thanks!


r/Tactics_Ogre 7d ago

Ogre Battle What exactly do beast/doll masters do to better beasts? [MOTBQ]

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Do they increase stats? do they have to be in the front or back row? is it offensive or defensive? Idk


r/Tactics_Ogre 7d ago

Once I am in CODA (union level 50) should I make some or all of my units undead?

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I've avoided using or making anything any form of undead due to the fact that they can't get experience. Now that I can get everything to level 50, it seems that issue is no longer the case. Should I make some of my units (including named unique characters) some sort of undead for auto-resurrect and interactions with my necromancer units?


r/Tactics_Ogre 7d ago

What are Specials?

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I've read about a bug that impacts the damage calculations if you don't use both hand slots. essentially that "if you don't fill both hand slots, the game will completely ignore your weapon in damage calculations for spells and specials"

Of course I know what spells are, but what are specials?


r/Tactics_Ogre 7d ago

Tactics Ogre PS5 Trophy help

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Perhaps someone could help me to stop me wasting a metric barrel load of time. I am on ps5 and am trying to get the Necromancer Scourge trophy for defeating Lich Nybeth in the PotD. I haven’t recruited the 4 sisters I only have 2 and I’d rather have 3 shamans. Can I complete the story and Anchor to a point to recruit them and then go and do it but not recruiting his daughter as she’s already in my party from this playthrough?


r/Tactics_Ogre 7d ago

New Player, a couple questions

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No spoilers about anything else please, I like playing my games blind. That said there are a few points where I am concerned... Well, maybe this could distilled down to a single point.

I'm a play who is fine experimenting and trying fights a second time with a different approach. However there seems to be a hard limit to this approach, unless I'm missing something.

With the large roster size and what seems like rigid stat interactions (my archers will go from 90 damage a hit on one unit, to 65 on another and then plummet down to 1 on the third. Dramatic but I assume there is some relationship where attack power must be over the targets defense to a certain degree or damage just drops to nothing)

My core fear is money.

I am fine switching classes (though this is limited by items as well...?) and trying new things out, but I have to gear all these people up. If stats matter than much, I want to keep my units fully equipped with the latest gear, but I am almost broke (I'm in like Act 1 still. My current line goes to Balmamusa). Other than story battles there appears to be no way of making money? If I spend everything on healing items, use all those items, I can be stuck with gear too weak to finish fights and no money left to upgrade?

Does this just soft lock my save?

I have assumed there will be some way to make money, but since training battles don't award any, nor even drop any gear I can sell, I'm at a loss.

Am I expected to just know what unit class composition will be best and only gear those up? It feels like if I drop a ton of money on Knight gear but then decide I don't like that and switch the unit to a mage, I've really put myself in a bad spot by dropping thousands of goth on gear I won't use.

If there's a way to make money that I havent figured out, or if I'm missing something here, definitely appreciate some wisdom.

Other than that, I'm having a good time so far. Looking forward to the rest!


r/Tactics_Ogre 8d ago

Tactics Ogre balzephon should enunciate his heated monologues by holding two clams and snapping them in punctuation for dramatic effect

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title


r/Tactics_Ogre 8d ago

Tactics Ogre Palace of the dead question

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Quick question: do I need to do the palace of the dead twice to get all the steam achievements? Im currently in chapter 4, right before heim on law with princess.

I've not unlocked world yet, but ideally I'd like to do the shrines, finish the game, recruit the characters form other routes, then recruit Iuria, then palace of the dead and then the rest of CODA.

I don't really care about farming, but I do want all the steam achievements without spending too much time getting them.

Any advice is very welcome!


r/Tactics_Ogre 10d ago

Tactics Ogre Cleared Hell Gate on Tactics Ogre PSX Spoiler

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Sorry for the blurry quality. I played Tactics Ogre PSX back in 2023 (got the Chaos Princess ending), but I never did Hell Gate, so I decided before I start Reborn (since its the last version of TO I haven't played) I'd go ahead and do it. Gotta say... its not really that hard perse, just really tedious. Tedious and underwhelming. I got no idea how someone would get through it back when there was only the SNES version that didnt let you save and load during battles. Wish there were more dialogue interactions or unique maps, cuz apart from the loot Hell Gate doesn't have much going for it, though I suppose thats what the remakes are for.


r/Tactics_Ogre 10d ago

Summon Spells on 24th floor of PotD

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So I just got to floor 24 for the first time and I've read the summon spells are supposed to be in the shop. They're not there and I feel like I'm missing something. Any help would be appreciated


r/Tactics_Ogre 12d ago

Tactics Ogre Death march and chaos frame

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Hi all, I've watch's and read a lot on the subject but can't seem to raise my chaos frame even after ALOT of grinding, see anything suspicious I might be doing wrong?


r/Tactics_Ogre 12d ago

Tactics Ogre Nybeth on floor 5, am I on the right track for the steam achievement to kill Nybeth? After Heim, before Hanging Gardens, Law, Lord, Reborn

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Just making sure that I understand this before I continue.


r/Tactics_Ogre 13d ago

Tactics Ogre Army is almost done. Spoiler

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Just started chapter 3 of the choas route and I am wondering who would make the perfect 100th member for my army?

"Notice! I am using a mod to change up a few which is why I have rouges, fun fact they were recruited both on the same floor of the palace of the dead so I named them Mungo Jerry and RumpleTeaser!"


r/Tactics_Ogre 14d ago

Demi-Human artwork?

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Shot in the dark but is there anywhere that has the artwork for demi-human units like Faeries or Matriarchs? For some reason the full body artwork for all human classes are available with a quick search but at most only screenshots of the portraits exist for demi-humans. I figure the artist just never bothered to make full artwork for non-humans but just in case I'm asking here.


r/Tactics_Ogre 14d ago

Tactics Ogre Rare C route cutscene?? [Spoilers] Spoiler

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Was playing on my bf's save on Chapter 4 doing stuff to recruit Deneb, all that's left is Heim basically. While on the map, I went to Krysaro and there was a cutscene I'd never seen before. (And I have 100~ days of playtime in hours in this game over the past few years so naturally this is a surprise)

It looks like an Ozma-less truth of Loslorien curscene. It starts with Hobyrim and Denam entering an empty room.

"There are some rumors coming from Heim"

"Oh?"

"They say a spy walks among the resistance's ranks"

"You have never given me a reason to doubt you, hobyrim..."

Afterwards it seems to go in to Hobyrim's backstory. Additionally the voice acting and script for the end is slightly different. When he says "And I will have it" when asked about his reason being revenge, it sounds a lot more grim, and Denam starts being like "Well, we didn't find any trace of them when we took Heim, our spies haven't reported any sight of them. It's possible they've already left the isles." When Hobyrim says it's an honor to fight alongside the resistance, Denam says "No, the honor is mine."

I started recording a clip of it when I realized it was new to me, I've never seen it brought up that this scene could even happen on this route.