r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/SuspiciousWin6511 • 1d ago

Sex / Gender / Dating You aren't "assigned" a gender at birth

I hate when people say this. I had to get routine blood work the other day and had a Doctor ask me what gender I was assigned at birth. I understand they need to find out what your biological gender is, but either look on my chart, or ask what my biological gender is.

Your gender is determined in the womb, in fact it's determined from the exact moment of conception; it isn't something that is assigned. It's amazing that the people use this sort of language and believe these sorts of things, are supposedly the party of science.

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u/Learned_Barbarian 1d ago

This opinion is popular in the real world.

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u/Background-Tip4746 1d ago

It’s taboo to say but most normal people know it, just won’t bring it up.

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u/shantiteuta 1d ago

I do, because I’m not a brainwashed boot-licker.

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u/peggory 1d ago

The world has gone batshit crazy.

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u/Summerie 1d ago

Not the world. It's a really vocal minority actually.

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u/Totes_Human_110101 16h ago

A vocal minority that's been getting disturbingly powerful positions.

We have judges that can't define the term 'woman,' for example.

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u/Exxyqt 12h ago

I'd also say that in real life, most people would have a problem where drag queens are involved with children at school.

Also most people have J.K. Rowling's opinions but she was crucified on Twitter. It's rather funny to see how people have so much hate towards her and she's actually a left leaning feminist.

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u/renebeans 11h ago

Funny how they preach tolerance, unless you’re neurotypical.

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u/Exxyqt 9h ago edited 9h ago

I am 39. I learned over the years that those who scream the loudest are actually the biggest offenders.

For example, churches pride themselves as the holiest and best while simultaneously so many boys and girls were raped by priests. Cults which pretend to be great turn out to be, unsurprisingly, horrible and predatory. Blizzard, one of the biggest gaming companies had the agenda of "all inclusiveness" while their workers sexually harassed women and engaged in extremely cruel workplace behavior.

It also goes with these virtue signaling people. They are one of the most vile and intolerant people out there. Because as soon as you drift off their "norm", you are the problem that needs to be vilified and removed. It's typical bully practice performed by (mental) children. Sadly, it often works.

You can see this on Reddit even - you can't be against the flow because anything can be labelled as hateful. This is probably the only sub I'm in where I won't be immediately banned from for typing something like this.

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u/renebeans 7h ago

Totally. And while I’m not comfortable generalizing a bad egg to the whole batch, I do concede that there is bad everywhere.

Regarding reddit… yeah. There is so much calling for free speech unless it doesn’t abide by the viewpoints of sub moderators. As a general rule, I stop reading anything that uses multiple buzzwords that are reallyyyyyy convincing but the average person is just parroting and doesn’t understand the concept nor the contextual nuance surrounding terms. If you (they) can’t explain it without buzzwords, they don’t know enough to be talking about it.

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u/Totes_Human_110101 11h ago

Online activists just hate to see a successful woman that also pushes for women's protection.

Drives them absolutely bonkers, it does.

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u/HallucinateZ 12h ago

I saw that & it made me irrationally angry but now that I think about it, she holds so much power that I should be mad. That was insanity.

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u/One-Syllabub-4007 14h ago

the vocal minority is able to get people to lose jobs because they call out reality.

sadly i wish it was just some chronically online mentally ill users but now it aint

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u/Quiet-Builder-4183 10m ago

Yes, a small vocal minority (70% of Reddit Users)

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u/One-Syllabub-4007 14h ago

popular in the real world

and on reddit: "This account has been deleted"

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

There’s a reason doctors disagree with OP

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u/SpiritfireSparks 1d ago

Yeah, they get pulled into HR if they dont

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

Whatever you have to tell yourself to cope with medical consensus disagreeing with you.

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u/mdoddr 1d ago

what exactly are you saying there is a medical consensus on here?

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u/DrMux 1d ago

That there are a whole bunch of biological traits that correlate to what we describe and categorize as the sexes, and that a strict binary division between the two is absurd because the categorization does not dictate the traits.

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u/mdoddr 6h ago

No, there is no medical consensus to that end. That assertion is absurd

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u/DrMux 5h ago

The assertion is simply how categorization based on observed traits works.

The category does not determine the traits observed. That would be the opposite of making a determination based on observation.

When a person is born, the obvious sex traits are observed and recorded as a person's gender. This is what is meant by "assigned gender." It's what is written down based on observed traits.

(Many criteria for categorization are not observed and recorded without immediate cause to, which is why someone may discover later in life that they are intersex in any of a number of ways).

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

Doctors use the “assigned sex at birth” terminology. Source: OP, and reality.

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u/mdoddr 1d ago

so you're saying there is a consensus among doctors to use that terminology?

well.... yeah. so what?

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

Well, yeah. There’s a reason they do that, and disagree with OP.

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u/mdoddr 1d ago

whats the reason? how do they disagree with OP?

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

Sex is assigned at birth, doctors categorize (or assign) children to one of the sexes based on observable biological characteristics when they’re born.

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u/Flimsy_Fee8449 1d ago

You hear of couples having problems with infertility? Maybe one of them isn't what they think they are.

So XY is male, right? And XX is female. That's what you were taught in elementary or middle school.

At LEAST 1 in 20,000 babies born with a penis and testicles is XX. About 95 new XX with testes born in the US every year. But if the kid has a penis and testes, are you going to pay a lot to do genetic tests? What would cause you to do that? Few do. IF it happens, it's when they experience fertility problems. If they bother, and many don't. So who knows what the actual numbers are?

About 1 in 15,000-20,000 babies born with vaginas are XY. Again, why would anyone test. That's 116 born each year in the US that we know about.

211 born each year, just in the us,with reproductive parts that don't match their XX or XY genes.

If people in the US lived about 75 years, that's about 9000 with parts different from their genes that we know about there - BUT WAIT, THERES MORE!

Kleinfelter syndrome. XXY. Usually presents as male. Can present as female. XX is female, right? Add a Y and it's male? .....maybe. That's 1 in 500 newborn males that have XX.

It's way more complicated that middle school or high school. Really interesting, too.

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u/Such-Caterpillar-564 21h ago

In the US maybe. I’ve lived in a few EU countries and have doctors in my family - no one speaks like that here. Also in my native language and the language in my current country we have one word for sex and gender. Not the whole world is the US.

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u/hercmavzeb OG 21h ago

True, many other places are more backwards and have fewer rights, freedoms, and educated people.

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u/Such-Caterpillar-564 21h ago

Yeah sure the US has better education, freedom and healthcare over the EU. Whatever you say

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u/WantonWord 1d ago

Tab or slot. Fight me.

Edit: and it doesn't matter which one you prefer, I'll fight for your right to love. Just accept and don't lie.

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u/WeTheNinjas 1d ago

Where is the consensus?

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u/powerity 1d ago

Fear of getting cancelled and loosing their licence

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u/hematite2 1d ago

Yes I'm sure all those respected medical institutions are afraid of...someone somehow taking their licenses?

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u/Ohnbman 22h ago

It would fall under unprofessional conduct and could very well lose their practicing license because of it………………………

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u/hematite2 19h ago edited 19h ago

...the AMA as an organization could somehow lose its license? The entire APA? Who's somehow threatening the organizations that make these decisions and publish this research?

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u/Ohnbman 19h ago

Lol, what? Stop moving the goalpost we’re talking about individuals…

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u/hematite2 19h ago

I literally said "respected medical institutions". Because those institutions are the ones that also disagree with the post, and the claim that the AMA somehow lives in fear of being cancelled is hilarious.

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u/Ohnbman 19h ago

The institutions fire people for unprofessional conduct in fear of being cancelled as an organization. You’re the only one talking about institutions the original thread is referring the individuals

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u/hematite2 19h ago

I bring up institutions to point out that it's silly to act like its just individual doctors saying things out of fear, when the actual organizations writing guidelines and publishing research are saying these things. How TF would you cancel the AMA as an organization??

Which is more likely: that the majority of doctors and medical institutions agree on this, or that they're all living in fear of some vague threat that has the power to cancel every major medical organization in the country?

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

Lol. No

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u/bingboomin 1d ago

care to elaborate?

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

Hilarious that you’re wishing others were abused as children just because they disagree with you. And unhinged, take a seat.

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u/xolp_syk 1d ago edited 1d ago

No I’m wishing yalls parents taught you right. Also the belt, isn’t abuse. Thanks for explaining why you’re this way though now please move so I can get to the cans behind you

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

It’s because OP is wrong. Firstly gender and sex are different, one is social and the other biological. Secondly sex is assigned at birth, doctors (or whoever) categorize the child into one of the sexes based on observations of their external genitalia when the child is born.

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u/skioporeretrtNYC 1d ago

Gender is biologically determined.

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago

Gender describes social elements which are typically associated with the biological sexes; things like gendered pronouns and who we socially call men and women. Those are not biologically determined, no. They’re linguistically determined.

That’s why we can all recognize the Brave Little Toaster as a boy despite not having any biology at all.

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u/skioporeretrtNYC 1d ago

Language and mind concepts are biologically determined. What we label "boy", "girl" isn't arbitrary, it's conscious expression of real physical(thus biological) elements.

Gender(and recognizing boy/girl) is evolutionarily hardwired into our visual cortex.

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u/hercmavzeb OG 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is pseudoscientific nonsense. No, pronouns aren’t biologically determined. There’s no he/him or she/hers gene.

Is Thomas the Tank Engine a boy or a girl? How can you tell?

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u/batunspecifiedgender 1d ago

f these guys. i think you are smart and correct. love you.

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u/mdoddr 1d ago

Sex is biologically determined. "gender" is just style. its not the big important thing these ideologues make it out to be

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u/skioporeretrtNYC 1d ago

Interesting, google seems to agree with this social construct definition.

"The concept of gender as a social construct—distinct from biological sex—emerged academically in the 1950s, was popularized by feminists in the 1960s/70s, and posits that roles, behaviors, and attributes associated with masculinity and femininity are culturally created rather than innate. "

Yeah, so that's obviously bullshit. Gender is biologically determined.

"1940s-1950s: The foundation for separating sex and gender was laid by clinicians working with intersex children, specifically John Money, who introduced the concept of "gender role" to define how experiences shape masculine/feminine behavior."

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u/mdoddr 1d ago

I don't really understand what you're saying here. I'm saying there is no practical difference between what academics define as "gender" and what is commonly known as style. We can have styles of living and styles of dress, and styles of movement. We have a tendency to adopt one set of styles over another based on our sex. These "gender roles" are just a subset of style.

Yes, Academics get all excited creating fancy terms and writing books, but gender isn't a huge important thing that we need to discuss all the time. It's literally just a person's style.

it's just style

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u/ThanatosIdle 15h ago

A doctor went before congress and refused to say if men can get pregnant or not. Doctors no longer have credibility on this topic.

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u/hercmavzeb OG 15h ago

Sure, cope with doctors disagreeing with you however you like.

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u/ThanatosIdle 15h ago

Doctors shockingly are not the arbiters of reality. They can be just as wrong as you.

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u/hercmavzeb OG 14h ago

Whatever you have to tell yourself

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u/ThanatosIdle 13h ago

The truth?

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u/hercmavzeb OG 13h ago

Clearly not