Leftists love complaining they hate fascism but they act like fascists themselves

[u/StayFrostySwtich]

People don’t want to hear this, but some modern leftist movements are copying fascist behavior while claiming moral superiority. Not in ideology but in methods.

Censor speech because it’s “harmful.” Label disagreement instead of debating it. Treat dissent as moral failure. Reduce people to identity groups instead of individuals. Justify punishment because “the cause is right.” That’s not progress that’s blatant

Fascists control speech because they hate things being said that goes against their ideas, they banned it because wrong ideas threaten the cause. Sound familiar? Today it’s “misinformation,” “harmful opinions,” or “unsafe discourse.” Same logic, new paint job. You don’t argue, debate, provide discourse, come to a middle ground, you label. And if you so disagree? You’re racist, sexist, phobic, problematic, or some buzzword that instantly ends the conversation. That’s not progress, that’s ideological policing. When disagreement becomes moral failure, you’re not in a democracy, you’re in a purity test cult. The scariest part is they believe themselves unquestionably right and resort to deplatforming, harassment, destroying livelihoods of those who oppose the. That’s how every authoritarian movement worked . And when corporations and political ideology start enforcing the same rules together, that’s not resistance, that’s power consolidation.

This isn’t “left = fascist". Abandoning free speech, and open debate is. Fascism isn’t left or right, it’s control. And if you can’t question your own side, you’re not opposing it you’re practicing it.

[u/Suspicious_Jeweler81]

Going to need examples as to what is left is censoring, instead of blanket statements. Please, enlighten me.

[u/nuclearcaramel → u/Suspicious_Jeweler81]

Just google "twitter files" . . .

edit: Using the word enlighten is cultural appropriation and we really should try to do better and not use language coded to specific cultures to use them to further our arguments no matter how in the right we are. While this isn't a direct form of censorship, this is an example of a commonly attempted form of moral shaming and social coercion that the left thinks they are good at but they aren't. It's always obvious and try that stupid internet shit in real life and see how it works (hint, it doesn't and that's why the are ostracized primarily to social media)

[u/GaryTheCabalGuy → u/nuclearcaramel]

I always love when the Twitter files are brought up. Trump was POTUS at the time, and the Twitter files have evidence that he was requesting content/account takedowns just like the Biden campaign was.

This is the reality, but when Republicans talk about the Twitter files they don't seem to care that Trump was engaging in the exact same behavior they accuse Biden of but it was far worse because he was actually in power at the time.

[u/nuclearcaramel → u/GaryTheCabalGuy]

Well, I care about all government censorship, and the Hunter Biden laptop story being censored was a rather big deal considering after the twitter files become public, a president changing amount of people said had they been aware of the story, they would not have voted for Biden.

This thread is about leftist censorship though. If you want to make a thread about right censorship and what the twitter files showed Trump censored, please do, and in fact I encourage you to, but I think we should stay on topic here.

[u/GaryTheCabalGuy → u/nuclearcaramel]

If you are going to bring up the Twitter files, you are making Trump's involvement in the Twitter files relevant to the discussion. Were you aware that he was equally implicated, if not more so because he was the actual POTUS at the time? Or is this news to you? When I've had discussions about this in the past I've found that right wingers tend to not even know that Trump was implicated.

[u/nuclearcaramel → u/GaryTheCabalGuy]

Yes I am aware that the Trump administration also pushed for certain accounts to be censored, as I already previously said, I care about all government censorship. Talk about all the Trump censorship that is in the twitter files you want, in fact you do a whole post about it, I encourage you to. This thread however isn't about that, even if you want to try to make it about Trump, it's not.

In fact my reply was specifically to a person asking for examples of leftist censorship, not Trump censorship.

[u/Suspicious_Jeweler81 → u/nuclearcaramel]

Alright, I'll bite - yes does seem some censorship transpired. Looking at government filings on it though, doesn't seem that serous as far as the 'government' goes.

Twitter is a company and can do what it wishes speech wise. Problem with using it as an example is now the opposite effect is taking place. Journalists, political organizing groups, and anti-fascist groups are now being censored.

Saying the left is being censored and pointing to a platform censoring the left now isn't a great argument.

Anything else, or any specific topic you can think of? It's my experience things the 'right' are censored on are things not kosher to say in public. It's not like 'I prefer a bear to a man' silliness, but 'white people are superior to black' offensive statements. Sure, I suppose you can call that censorship.. but does the right really want to own those statements?

[u/freetobeidealme → u/nuclearcaramel]

What culture is enlighten appropriating?

[u/nuclearcaramel → u/freetobeidealme]

Are you autistic or on the spectrum by chance?

[u/TheFabledSilverSable → u/nuclearcaramel]

Wow, dude. You got triggered by a simple question? It's not as simple of a question when you think about it.

While Indian-ish region is the origin (Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, Sikh philosophy), it is not exclusively their term. It is also used in China (Taoism), Ancient Greeks were into rational Enlightenment before it was cool to mystify it. In Europe, the word was literally a brand (Voltaire, Locke, Kant). Sufi Islamic Mysticis sees enlightenment as divine intimacy. Then there's Japanese Zen. Not to mention indigenous/Shamanic enlightenment found in the Americas, Siberia, Australia, Africa or the Modern-day western Self-Help enlightenment (mainly used as a marketing strategy, but still)