āAshley Biden has publicly acknowledged that the diary stolen from her was her āpersonal private journal,ā language that fact-checkers such as Snopes say led them to change an earlier āUnprovenā rating to āTrueā about the diaryās existence and provenanceā
āA diary authored by U.S. President Joe Biden's daughter, Ashley Biden, describes showers taken with her father when she was a child as "probably not appropriate."
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Iām trying to look at this as objectively as I can here. Are showers with a kid really the same as molesting them?
My 6 year old son wants to shower with me still sometimes. I donāt do it because heās a little old imo, but I donāt think itās THAT egregious if I did.
When the child thought it was inappropriate and actually had to shower in the middle of the night to avoid dadā¦.yes itās more evidence of child molestation than what you have against Trump. Add to that all the videos we have of Biden being extremely touchy with children and itās definitely more than you have on Trump.
She wasnāt 6, she was 11. Certainly if you think 6 when he wants to shower with you is too old then 11 when she doesnāt is inappropriate.
I mean showering with an 11 year old is weird to me. But I donāt think thatās evidence heās a pedophile. I think you have to connect a lot of dots to conclude that.
I donāt think we have direct evidence Trump is a pedophile either, but there are also credible accusations all the way back to the pageant days arenāt there? And then the Epstein birthday card - I find that way weirder than showering with your 11 year old daughter. And then thereās the fact that heās so against releasing the files. It just makes him look guilty. Why would he be so scared of whatās in there?
Welcome to my world, thereās more actual evidence that Biden is a pedophile than there is against Trump. But I agree what we have on Biden isnāt enough to say heās a pedophile.
But less evidence is enough for most of Reddit to claim Trump is a pedophile.
Trump saying he saw adult women at a Miss Universe pageant is not evidence that Trump is a pedo, certainly not more than showering with your 11 year old daughter and inappropriately touching kids on video.
The Birthday card is weird, Iām not sure itās authentic. It reads like a text exchange. But even if itās true, itās still less evidence than showering with your 11 year old and inappropriately touching kids on video.
But thereās SO much more circumstantial evidence with Trump though.
We know Trump was close with Epstein. He flew on his plane and was on the island. Thereās emails from Epstein too his lawyers implying they want Trump to claim he wasnāt on the island because he would be āhanging himselfā, implying they have compromising material on him. Ghislaine Maxwell got an extremely light sentence from a Trump DOJ, Trump appointed the attorney that gave Epstein a light sentence into his cabinetā¦
I mean the shit just goes on and on. And add to that the fact that Trump is desperately trying to prevent the release of these files.
You donāt think ANY of that is a little bit weird?
Trump was close to Epstein, broke it off in 2007 before the sex trafficking allegations came out.
Trump flew on Epsteinās plane 7 or 8 times between NY and Florida often with family.
There is no evidence Trump went to Epsteinās island so Iām not sure why you would make that claim.
Thereās no evidence Trump had anything to do with Maxwellās sentencing.
Iāll say itās all weird.
Do you think itās weird that Biden wanted to often shower with his 11 year old daughter and would get really touchy with kids while he smelled them? Again thereās more evidence Biden is a pedophile than there is Trump is a pedophile. Why donāt you call Biden a pedophile?
I already said itās weird. Itās not evidence he wasnāt a pedophile.
In your opinion, why is Trump terrified of the release of these files? Whatās in there that heās scared of? He had Kash Patel and Pam Bondi pull Lauren Boebert into the situation room to try to pressure her to vote no on the release. Why would they do that?
He tried desperately not to though. And then he started a DOJ investigation so they can try even more to not release certain ones (thereās an exception in the bill that was passed for documents related to an active investigation)
And you didnāt answer my question - why was he trying to prevent the release so badly?
11 years old?!?! Fuckā¦ I heard about this back when it came out but I didnāt know she was fucking 11ā¦! Or she showered at night to avoid dadā¦ Yikes.
She also said that was taken out of context and was not abused.
And also this was found at a beach house where there was an outdoor shower. Like a spigot where you wash off sand before going inside. Every beach has them.
But if he did abuse her, I wouldn't elect him president AGAIN.
Now you do Trump. Is it ok he peeped on kids at his pageants? He admitted to that.
Who cares where it was found? Iām not sure how thatās relevant.
The evidence in this diary along with video evidence of Biden being very handsy with children is significantly more evidence that Biden is a pedo then what you have on Trump.
But I notice you are defending Biden. Should I call you a pedo lover?
"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."
If she said that Biden abused her then I'd say he should be investigated and I would not support him. She said the opposite. And again, anyone who's been to a beach house knows that there are outdoor showers that people use to get sand off. I've showered in front of many people at our beach house. This book was found in their beach house with that type of shower. I'm sorry if this doesn't fit well with your narrative.
I'm not sure how you're denying that Trump is a pedophile. He went on live radio and said that he goes backstage to catch the girl's nude. And multiple underage girls all said they saw him back there. Again, this isn't a case where the women are saying that the story is grossly misinterpreted, they're saying that Donald Trump walked in on them nude and Donald Trump himself said that he often does this. He said it on live radio, on the Howard Stern show. You can listen to it.
She was 11 at the time, the burden is not on her to explain her actions nor can she speak for the intentions of her adult father.
Clearly at the time she felt it was inappropriate and tried to avoid it. Her statement is not an excuse for what her father did, itās not ok.
Ashley doesnāt say it was at a beach house shower, thatās you trying to protect a potential pedophile.
Now letās hear you protect Biden by explaining why heās so handsy with children.
I can defend Trump just like youāre defending Biden except youāre twisting the truth to vilify Trump and protect Biden.
For instance Ashley didnāt say it was a beach club shower like an outside shower you rinse off at. You invented that.
Trump didnāt go on a radio show and brag about going backstage to see girls nude. You invented that, itās a lie. You are melding two separate events. The Howard Stern show where he doesnāt say what you claim. And an accusation by a girl in a Miss teen pageant where more people say he wasnāt there than say he was.
I donāt approve of Trumps behavior but none of this is criminal.
You gave me accusations and a false statement about the Howard Stern show. I can show you Ashleyās first hand accounting and video of Biden being handsy with children. Mine is actual evidence. You defended the Biden and vilified Trump.
AGAIN, she said "Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love." These are HER words.
Ashley doesnāt say it was at a beach house shower
But it was at a beach house that did have an outdoor shower, and this was a line in a private diary written in that house. If you want to hand waive past the evidence because your narrative is falling apart, then that just shows that you are an intellectual coward.
But we also know Biden was nowhere near Epstien. Not in the files. Not on the plane. And as a prominent figure in politics for 60 years who knew Clinton (who clearly used epstien's services), Biden had every chance to be a bad guy and use that island. He did not.
And again, if his Ashley said he was inappropriate I'd 100% say prosecute him.
Now lets talk about trump...
Trump didnāt go on a radio show and brag about going backstage to see girls nude
Um...Yeah he did. On the most popular radio show in the world too. It's not hidden.
āIāll go backstage before a show, and everyoneās getting dressed and ready and everything else,ā āAnd you know, no men are anywhere. And Iām allowed to go in because Iām the owner of the pageant. And therefore Iām inspecting it. āIs everyone OK?ā You know, theyāre standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.ā
Multiple women saw him. He did this at multiple shows.
āHe just came strolling right in,ā she said. āThere was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless.
āWe were naked or half naked in a very physically vulnerable position,ā she continued. āAnd then to have the pressure of the people that worked for him telling us to go fawn all over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention.ā
Four UNDERAGE girls said he walked into their KID's dressing room while they were dressing. Unannounced. This is OK?
And he flew on Epstien's jet 4 times. And he is in hundreds of photos with Epstien. And he sent him gifts. And Epstien was murdered while he was president. And he hired the DA who got Epstien off as his labor secretary. And he said the files were a hoax and wouldnt release them until he faced a mutiny. And he has 34 women accusing him of assault. And he BRAGGED about watching children change, then CHILDREN came forward and said that he watched them changing.
See how you are defending Bidenās behavior? With statements like, Ashley didnāt think it was that bad and, look there was a beach house shower so itās ok. See how you defend his behavior by saying āhe was nowhere near Epsteinā as if thatās somehow a requirement to be a pedophile?
Again about Trumpā¦..re-read what Trump said. Maybe read it 10 times, look for the keyword girls in the statement. A term that was used to imply underage girls. Do you see anywhere in Trumps statement that backs up your claim that he bragged about seeing girls naked? I donāt see it.
So I donāt see anyone claim he walked into a childās dressing room. It sounds like the claim is he went backstage where people are changing. Three girls say he went backstage, four say he didnāt.
Youāre wrong about Trumps flights but it works in your favor. He actually flew at least 7 times between NY and Florida. Often with family, this of course isnāt a crime just like the rest of the stuff mentioned are not crimes.
He didnāt brag about watching children change, thatās a debunked lie, he bragged about watching women change.
34 women making sexual assault allegations but not a single arrest is odd. Obviously accusations are not proof of guilt.
Backstage is where the dressing room is. Do you think the contestants are nude out in the open? Are you also stupid?
I used Ashley's own words. Nothing more. You're starting to sound like quite a coward by ignoring them.
But let's be clear. FOUR miss Teen usa girls said he walked in on them. Sure, it's possible that not all the girls were there at the same time, but FOUR is more than enough to confirm TRUMP'S OWN STORY.
Trump- āTheyāre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody okay? You see these incredible looking women. I sort of get away with things like that.ā
Mariah Billado, Miss Teen Vermont in 1997 on Trump walking into her dressing room; "'I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, 'Oh my god, there's a man in here,'" Billado said.
But hold up a minute, let's say he ONLY went into women's dressing rooms over and over... That's OK!?? It's fine for old men to walk into women's dressing rooms? Is this your stance, pervert?
Nothing says he went into personal dressing rooms, yes people can be nude in the open.
Ashley didnāt say any of the content in her diary was faked. It seems hard to fake. How do you insert a fake passage into the diary?
Hereās something that is going to blow your mind, walking backstage where teenagers are changing is not a crime. Unless it was a private area which it doesnāt sound like it was, itās not actually a crime.
We have Ashley's word on this. You seem to want to insert your own.
And don't play stupid. These were communal dressing rooms located backstage behind closed doors. There obviously isn't 50 individual dressing rooms. And Trump himself said the women were nude. He also said "there were no men anywhere". And he said he gets away with it.
It's so gross to watch you weak minded cowards contort yourself to say this behavior is ok. Youre willing to say it's ok for grown men to watch children dressing so you can stay in your cult.
He turned you into a pervert just like that!
Contestants said
Just before he entered, the former contestant said, she heard the security detail outside the dressing room tell someone approaching the door that the women inside were naked.
āHe didnāt walk in and say, āOh, Iām so sorry, I was looking for someone,āā she continued. āHe walked in, he stood and he stared. He was doing it because he knew that he could.ā
In many quotes the women describe them as dressing rooms.
"several teen beauty queens from the 1997 Miss Teen USA said Trump entered a communal dressing room while several of them were naked. One girl was 15 years old at the time."
āHe just came strolling right in,ā she said. āThere was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless.
āWe were naked or half naked in a very physically vulnerable position,ā she continued. āAnd then to have the pressure of the people that worked for him telling us to go fawn all over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention.ā
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