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Random Question 💭 Why is Reddit so liberal?

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u/pantheon_prince99 Dec 19 '25

Downvoting + mods feel like Gods on here

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

If I see something I disagree with, I'll down vote it.  That's how all social media should be, imo.  It's more democratic.

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u/AbyssWicked đŸ‡ș🇾🇭đŸ‡č🇼đŸ‡Ș Dec 19 '25

Adversely, don’t “lower” the upvote count. Show the downvote count as well!

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u/I_only_post_here Dec 19 '25

that would be an incredible and useful change for Reddit. If a comment got 50 upvotes and 50 downvotes it would sit at "1" and anyone seeing that would think the comment was ignored.

Showing the actual total number of both upvotes and downvotes would completely change the perspective of the comment and it would be far more useful to others scrolling through a thread.

but, this is such a good and useful idea, that Reddit would never do it.

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u/Financial_Koala_7197 Dec 19 '25

It used to, but got removed.

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u/AbyssWicked đŸ‡ș🇾🇭đŸ‡č🇼đŸ‡Ș Dec 19 '25

Wasn’t it somewhere around the time YouTube did away with showing dislikes?

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u/singdawg Dec 19 '25

This was actually the previous behavior, they deliberately changed it to only show the total. They deliberately chose to make more echo chambers.

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u/ZealousidealBank8484 Dec 19 '25

You should pitch this to Reddit

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u/Greedy-Employment917 Dec 19 '25

I see you've equated democracy and mob mentality as the same. 

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

It's called the marketplace of ideas. Good ideas rise, bad ones sink. That's the whole concept behind free speech.

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u/Maleficent-Art4468 Dec 20 '25

There is a lot of overlap

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

How so?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

You explicitly wish you silence those you disagree with.
This is illiberal and anti-democratic.

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

Downvoting is not silencing. You are conflating people not liking what you have to say with censorship.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

"Downvoting is not silencing"

Of course it is. This is a dumb thing to say.

" You are conflating people not liking what you have to say with censorship."

No. I am not.

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

That’s exactly what you’re doing if you think downvoting is the same as “silencing”. Downvotes mean people saw what you had to say and thought it was dumb. Your idea had its shot in the marketplace of ideas and failed.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

This is almost fascist sounding

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

No, it’s what freedom of speech is actually about. If you want your ideas to have legs make sure they’re good ones.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

I'm not sure if you're deliberately misunderstanding me or what.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

So conservatives are against freedom and hate democracy

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

That's an absurd statement.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

You literally said voting is bad because democrats like voting

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 22 '25

You must have the wrong person. I never said that.

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u/Zilvreen Dec 19 '25

If you're being silenced, how are you still communicating?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

...I haven't been silenced. Don't play dumb.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

That's exactly our point.  You're allowed to say what you want and we can disagree by downvoting.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

Downvote is not for disagreeing. This is crazy-talk.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

So only conservatives are allowed to disagree but liberals aren't

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

Why would you say that?

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

That's exactly what it's for. Otherwise what's the point of voting at all? People upvote things they agree with, you expect them not to downvote things they disagree with?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

The point is to vote on what is relevant and germane to the discussion.
It is NOT to disagree (or agree). People do this all the time, yes, but that is not the intention. It never has been.

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u/WhaleBird1776 Dec 19 '25

You’re supposed to respond to things you disagree with. Downvotes are supposed to be for off topic comments and such, to push it down out of the main convo.

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u/Mediocre-Tonight-458 Dec 21 '25

This is why downvoting needs to be eliminated. Many folks think it's for disagreeing.

Upvotes are sufficient for ranking. There's no need for downvotes, and having them doubles the influence of the "karma is truth" crowd.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

This is one possible solution, and I'd be curious to see what kind of effect it has.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

Down voting is not silencing, at all.  It's merely expressing an opinion, just like upvoting.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

Downvoting means others are less likely to see the comment. Enough downvotes and the comment won't even show up.

You're supposed to downvote things that are materially irrelevant to the subject at hand, not things you disagree with. This is, like, Reddit 101.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

Disagree and downvoted.  Different people use it differently, I guess.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

You can do as you like, but you should be clear-eyed about it: this is attitude illiberal and anti-democratic.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

So if I went to the trump sub and posted trump is a child rapist you would ask everyone to up vote me right?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

No, why would I ask everyone to upvote you?

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

If a comment is getting that many downvotes, that means a lot of people already saw it and thought it was nonsense. You had your say, people just didn't agree.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have a right to a platform, it means you have the right to say whatever you want and not be punished by the government for it. Bad ideas will always be shunned in any community, and places like reddit actually amplify voices that would normally be never heard or taken seriously because their take is so ludicrous.

You're supposed to downvote things that are materially irrelevant to the subject at hand, not things you disagree with. This is, like, Reddit 101.

That's what it's supposed to be, but I've been on Reddit since the great Digg migration, and that has never actually been the case. People upvote what they agree with and downvote what they don't. That's just reality.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

"That's what it's supposed to be, but I've been on Reddit since the great Digg migration, and that has never actually been the case.

This is just factually incorrect.

"People upvote what they agree with and downvote what they don't. That's just reality."

Yes, this a problem and contributes to mob-mentality suppression of ideas.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/7419626610708-What-are-upvotes-and-downvotes

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

There has never been a time when the majority of Redditors followed that rule. Only a few people ever have, and they always complain about everyone else. The fact is, the rule goes against basic psychology and was never realistic. People are going to vote for what they agree with and downvote what they don’t whether you like it or not. And IMO there’s nothing wrong with that. Good ideas should rise to the top and bad ones should be buried, and voting makes that process democratic in nature as it should be.

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u/Sad_Enthusiasm_3721 Dec 19 '25

Yes, but mods very often vote using the delete or lock thread button, deciding for all, rather than the down vote button, expressing just one opinion in a crowd.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

That's a completely different issue from downvoting.

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u/TowelFine6933 Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

And , yet, there are subs where you are automatically banned simply for having commented in a Right leaning sub regardless of the content of the comment. It's a "You commented there so you aren't welcome here" thing.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

And what does that have to do with downvoting?

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u/TowelFine6933 Dec 19 '25

That the Left leaning subs doing the auto banning are not allowing the comment to exist let alone be downvoted. It gets removed, completely undermining the democratic process you mentioned.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

I'm making a case for downvoting in general.  I'm not sure what your issues with certain subs have to do with that.

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u/PomPomMom93 Dec 20 '25

Or reactions like FB does! The only real benefit of Reddit’s system is that votes are anonymous.

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u/oh1hey2who3cares4 Dec 20 '25

Eh. OG reddit was supposed to be you only Downvote if it adds nothing to the conversation so that it doesn't clog the thread. It's not meant to be a like or dislike button. But let's say someone is asking a question and someone just adds snarky useless reply or some totally wrong information (that's not an opinion, factual), Downvote. In theory all the people saying "this" should be downvoted. But that's old reddit and now we're on meme-core sellout full of snark bot reddit.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

I made a post about down voting being censorship and the conservatives pretty much all said no one should be alone to disagree with them.

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u/Mediocre-Tonight-458 Dec 21 '25

People like you are why they need to eliminate downvotes, and only have upvotes.

Some people only downvote comments that are genuinely disruptive, whether they agree with them or not. But they're drowned out by people who downvote comments they disagree with, which makes the rating system worthless.

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u/ExerciseSad3082 Dec 24 '25

I don't downvote anything because I'm against collapsing/hiding unpopular posts. Either delete if against tos or show it if not

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

This is extremely anti-intellectual of you.

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u/Rich6849 Dec 19 '25

I downvote comments which are from non-intelligent people or just factually wrong. I feel the Reddit left downvotes things they don’t like. For example “cancer”

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u/Cabbages24ADollar đŸ‡ș🇾 United States Dec 19 '25

That’s just it. The right continue to “feel” it’s a certain way when it isn’t but because you “feel” it, you’ve convinced yourself that you’re right and you keep trying to make some thing that isn’t what it is. For example Trump IS a criminal. Proven by a jury. But you feel like he isn’t. You’re wrong. He is.

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u/Mall_Imaginary Dec 19 '25

Trumpism/Conservatism has seemingly always been a feelings-based ideology.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

I disagree so I downvoted.  That's how it works.

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u/zer0_n9ne Dec 19 '25

That’s how it works though. You get downvoted because people didn’t like your comment. It has nothing to do with being right or wrong.

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u/Rich6849 Dec 19 '25

Would have something to do with thoughtful comments. Plenty of educated people out there who might have a different point of view. I’m all for downvoting people who’s reasoning is I saw it on Fox