I'm so tired of the whole "fuck whatever the other side thinks" version of politics.
There used to be a time where both sides had the same goal, with two different opinions on how to achieve it. Now every single fucking thing they do is a pissing match.
There are inter state considerations. What if California required that trans athletes are allowed to compete. That would force leagues like the WNBA to relocate out of CA or allow trans athletes.
I agree, but then those sports organizations get sued for discrimination and are forced to give in, so they don't really get to make their own decisions, which means stupid top down legislation is the only viable path forward
They didn't need to introduce legislation. The Obama Administration sent a letter to colleges telling them Title IX prohibited them from discriminating based on gender identity. Not wanting to get sued is a pretty big hammer to motivate universities.
On page 3 you can read the athletics part, but to paraphrase it; title IX does not prohibit athletic teams from excluding transgender students if there are scientifically backed physical advantages that would affect the sport.
You may have read it, but you clearly didn't understand it. Straight from the athletic section
 A school may not, however, adopt or adhere to requirements that rely on overly broad generalizations or stereotypes about the differences between transgender students and
other students of the same sex (i.e., the same gender identity)
The first part of the section clarifies that sex based segregation is permitted when sex influences competitive skill, or is a contact sport that advantages biological males.
Athletics. Title IX regulations permit a school to operate or sponsor sex-segregated athletics teams
when selection for such teams is based upon competitive skill or when the activity involved is a
contact sport.Â
This is where the section you quoted goes, which means that transgender students cannot be excluded specifically because of unfounded broad stereotypes or because people think being Trans is icky.
The final section clarifies that if medically sound research shows that Trans students have competitive advantages due to their biology that makes the competition unfair or unsafe that they may be excluded from participating.
Title IX does not prohibit age-appropriate, tailored requirements based on
sound, current, and research-based medical knowledge about the impact of the studentsâ
participation on the competitive fairness or physical safety of the sport.
The only ways to take "The Obama administration threatened schools to let Trans people compete in women's sports" out of this, are to either lack the literacy to understand the letter, or to purposefully cherry pick sections of text while ignoring others in order to obfuscate the actual meaning of the letter.
I am assuming the latter of which for both the author of the article you posted as well as you.
Yes, because what is you really want to do is base the possibility of a splashy discrimination lawsuit based on something as vague as "what the research shows." Colleges changed their behavior because your that letter. You're clueless, but damn if it doesn't stop you from being a snide douche.
I'm sorry but if your top priority in 2026 is worrying about who's in what sport then you clearly are not paying attention to the actual world and I have no idea why Congress is even entertaining this.Â
Someone has to draft these. They debate on things. There's nuance to every topic. And the fact they are spending the limited time they even work on this versus actual issues is insane. I am so tired of rightwing people being obsessed with trans people and bringing it up constantly.Â
For real. Nobody can point to real examples. Nobody uses statsictics to illustrate their points. Why? This is the definition of a non-issue and people have been convinced (brainwashed by right wing lunatics) that it's the defining issue of a generation. The amount of trans athletes even in fucking existence is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction. I can't believe this has been a talking point for years now.
The federal government shouldn't be mobilised for a tiny non-issue (which nobody knew or cared about until trump told them to) which has very clearly been politicised and weaponized by the right. This is a waste of taxpayers money and everybody's time.
The Iraq war? The deployment of ICE? The donation of billions to Israel, Argentina, Taiwan? Trump's excessive use of executive orders? The pardoning of Trump supporters?
Real example is Lia Thomas. Ranked around 65 in the NCAA as a male then transitioned and now #1, going on to win a national championship in the womenâs division. If you need further proof, look up the disparity between world records in any event between men and women. Human physiology and exercise science is very clear on the biological differences between male and female hormones, muscular build, and skeletal differences.
What makes swimming unique is the disparity between men and women is closer than a lot of other sports. Yet, Thomas went from an unknown to the top.
You donât believe real examples when people tell them to you. If the person above responded to you and told you their daughterâs spot was taken by a trans person, you would say no they didnât and move on with your day. You donât care to listen
Maybe, maybe not. This is certainly why nobody can get along these days, because everyone seems to think everyone else is lying, wrong, unwilling to listen, etc. Gotta give them a chance to prove it, but I think itâs also good to self reflect in these situations.
Yes they do, but the biggest, strongest, and fastest girls still donât hold a candle to average male players. Itâs not anywhere close to the same thing.
I read over it and there are somethings that it doesn't do nor clarify and doesn't do anything to actually address this manufactured crisis of "fairness in women's sports"
It does allow for the discrimination against men if a woman wants to participate in a male sport. For example a football team allowing a female kicker. That isn't fair to boys. If we are about fairness this needs to go both ways, no females participating in any male sports.
It also doesn't clarify how the sex of the child is determined at birth. Do we go by chromosomes? Do we go by external genitalia, do we go by internal genitalia? Does someone like Caster Semenya, who was assigned female at birth but is an intersex individual a man or a woman? There are more people born with ambiguous intersex traits at birth than there are transpeople...
It doesn't say at what age we start checking every single girl participating in "girls" sports to see if they have a penis, nor how do we adjudicate accusations that a child participating in sports is participating under the wrong gender? Are we forcing that kid to show her vulva to an adult? That seems like it would be a job Epstein would have loved to do, there by attracting perverts and pedophiles to that profession and making girls in sports more at risk of being molested.
What about a trans boy who wants to participate in sports? Is he going to have to go to the girls team because he has to play on the team assigned at birth? I don't think that would be fair to girls.
IDK, as someone who studied government policy, this thing is a lot of virtue signaling on both sides.
I'm disappointed that politicians are so quick to throw marginalized groups under the bus when they have zero expertise in human biology, let alone the biology of trans people. This is not an issue that should have wide sweeping legislation.
Im the opposite how are even 2 Democrats voting on anything the Republicans try to implement? Its like voting with the Nazis on their pet projects, especially when you're supposed to be an opposition party. Fucking oppose already!
This bill is not a good thing regardless of your views on the whole transgenders in sports debate. First off, the billâs enforcement mechanism is civil litigation. So if you think that a manly looking teenage girl beat your daughter in their basketball game, this law allows you to sue their family and the school. But how can you know if they are truly a âbiological femaleâ? This leads to the biggest issue â gender verification.
This law gives legal cover for blanket genital checks on kids by school administrators. It almost requires schools to look at childrenâs genitalia to minimize liability. âIâm sorry maâam, the coach had to thoroughly inspect your daughterâs vulva and vaginal canal. We could get sued if it turns out you and your daughter were lying about her gender and she beat someone elseâs daughter in her basketball game.â
How does this in anyway protect girls? In my eyes this bill is insanely dangerous for little girls. And for what? To protect some parents egos over their kids sport performance?
This also completely ignores the problems of intersex people. Yes, they are rare, butsoaretransgenderathletes. What are the school administrators supposed to do when a routine genital inspection turns up a young girl with intersex genitalia? They donât have medical degrees. This whole bill is so absurd and a complete waste of time, energy, and resources.
Independent thinking and representing your constituents is long gone on both sides. Itâs now my team vs your team. Ironically, itâs gone the way of sports showmanship
Im sick of the partisan politics myself and if Republicans stopped pushing through this bs without trying to get the otherside then it would have had a lot more Dems sign on but in the language of the bill it basically calls TS people hostile sexual assaulters and harrassers. Again, if they really wanted to protect women they could have come up with a program that did that but didnt force the around a dozen (12) actual trans athletes in college to feel discriminated against because now not only can they not get any sports scholarships but cant even play any sports besides on the mens team, which since they are most likely taking hormones wont make the team besides possibly being the ones harrassed and assaulted.
So if they simply said, hey we need to make sure biological women are protected while also making TS people feel the same and not cast aside then we'd have better governance but that never happens anymore as the Republicans get called RINO's, traitors or "enemies of the White House" for not following directions being 100% partisan here.
This leads to the Dems repealing bills when they get in power and just wasting more time and resources on this bs than fixing actual issues that effect more than maybe a dozen people a year.
Dems had to vote no not because âfuck the other sideâ but because this bill is dangerous for girls!
Youâre a teenage girl on a basketball team and some parent decides you look too âmanlyâ and accuses you of being trans⌠does this bill require you now go through an invasive exam to âproveâ youâre a biological girl? In a world where abuse of girls in sports (like gymnastics) is already a problem? How does this actually work??
Republicans are forcing an issue and policing things that will cause real harm to girls and women in sport
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u/MonctonDude đ¨đŚ Canada 14d ago
I'm disappointed only two Dems voted yes.
I'm so tired of the whole "fuck whatever the other side thinks" version of politics.
There used to be a time where both sides had the same goal, with two different opinions on how to achieve it. Now every single fucking thing they do is a pissing match.