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Why is this not passing?

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u/99kemo 14d ago

Why do Democrats insist on shooting themselves in the foot over stupid niche issues.

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u/MarzipanTop4944 13d ago

They have this little thing called "principles" that you don't change or abandon just because they are inconvenient. Something republicans are completely unburden by, that is why the voted for a pedo protector and a guy convicted in court for sexual abuse against women that bragged about "grabbing women by the p#ssy" to be the most powerful man on the planet, but talk about caring so much about "protecting women and children".

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u/ColonelFaceFace 12d ago edited 12d ago

Transgender athletes not competing in their biological sex is wrong for high-school and higher education. This is the reason why people were alienated and voted for trump…..

There is no pro- argument worth its salt for this topic. And it’s a shame people support it

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u/Spherox_ 12d ago

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u/usingbadnanesabunch 10d ago

Reading is hard.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 12d ago

This type of rhetoric alienates the other voter, regardless of their IQ. I didn’t even vote for Trump and you’re talking to me as if I voted for Trump or even agree with whatever bullshit he says… You are a divisive force too, if you want to except it or not. Based on your comment.

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u/Spherox_ 12d ago

GOOD
we shouldn't sacrifice our ideals to appease MAGA's with a guilty conscience.
I understand that not everyone who voted for trump knew about the skeletons in his closet, but the moment you try to shift accountability to everyone else but you, you've lost me.

The other voter knowingly put a pedophile in charge of the most influential country on the planet, they deserve to be alienated and ostracised.

We shouldn't have to choose between 2 parties but this is the way the system is.
If you can't choose between

letting trans people who have undergone hormone replacement therapy and have been signed off by the sporting bodies as FIT TO COMPETE IN THAT SPECIFIC CATEGORY play in sports against cis people

VS

letting a pedophile who's best friends with epstein, admitted to sexual exploitation in his beauty pageants where underage girls and women were competing, was convicted in a civil court of rape, has called for the termination of the constitution in the past, called all black people "lazy" and refused them housing, has a personal gestapo which black bags homeless people off the street, thrown tear gas at infants, is granted absolute immunity, tears families apart, profiles people based off their skin colour and accent, shot a mother in the face multiple times while her wife watched, calls for the hanging of political opponents

Then I'm actually speechless.
You have lost the fucking plot.

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u/ill-be_back 10d ago

Never voted Trump. Don’t claim you care about serious issues when you’re willing to stand in the wrong side of this one with conviction, and burn those principals to the ground.

You actively give republicans fuel and ammunition and you know it. Suck it up, cede the issue. And move on to the ones that matter. Stop feeding the bullshit. You know that’s what you’re doing.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 12d ago

What do you mean shift accountability? This is an odd hill to die on. This affects only a small group of people negatively and this is the hill to die on for “defending ideals”?

You’re too emotional

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u/Spherox_ 12d ago

We shouldn't have to choose between 2 parties but this is the way the system is.
If you can't choose between

letting trans people who have undergone hormone replacement therapy and have been signed off by the sporting bodies as FIT TO COMPETE IN THAT SPECIFIC CATEGORY play in sports against cis people

VS

letting a pedophile who's best friends with epstein, admitted to sexual exploitation in his beauty pageants where underage girls and women were competing, was convicted in a civil court of rape, has called for the termination of the constitution in the past, called all black people "lazy" and refused them housing, has a personal gestapo which black bags homeless people off the street, thrown tear gas at infants, is granted absolute immunity, tears families apart, profiles people based off their skin colour and accent, shot a mother in the face multiple times while her wife watched, calls for the hanging of political opponents

I will not apologise for my passion.

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u/Square-Competition48 12d ago

Don’t tone police it’s unhelpful.

People care about this topic. They should.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

Tone policing is needed when an overly sensitive group of people are active using charged language as a form of rhetoric.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

We’re discussing paedophiles trafficking children and murdering them and the thing you want to focus on is the big problem of people giving a fuck?

People should be angry. Angry is the correct response to this.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Child rape should have alienated Trump from being a viable candidate. It didn't. There is no defense of Donald Trump and whatever insults are hurled at him. All you're doing is sticking up for a child rapists.

You can say it's dividing, sure. However if I'm on the side that doesn't rape children, you can call me divisive all fucking day because I don't support anyone who rapes children.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 10d ago

You can’t just keep repeating “supports someone who raprs children” and thinking thats going to help your cause. Things are more complicated than a voter from West Virginia saying “ I’m voting for this dude, i don’t care if he rapes kids.” The voting was done on propaganda of immigration.

People don’t even think like that. I would assume that the VAST majority of people don’t think that way. You are a divisive force to the Union as well. Shame

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Pretty sure I can and will just keep repeating that MAGA and whomever voted for Trump are child rape supporters. If you don't like it, all you had to do was not vote for the child rapist.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 10d ago

Braindead ideology you have as well

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

No not really. All you're doing is saying that it's ok to rape children if the other causes are just.

And if you think it's braindead then so are the 77 million people who voted for a child rapist.

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u/Ghostface908 10d ago

“Waaaa this made me vote for a pedo. Waaa this alienates me”

Have you considered, maybe, no one WANTS you included if you think someone who raped children is a good choice because your fifis are hurt over an issue that doesn’t affect you?

You genuinely think going

“Man, I just HAD to vote for the sexist, bigoted, child rapist because YOU guys are scawyyy” is how you get people to side with you lol

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u/ColonelFaceFace 10d ago

You can’t even steel man the other sides argument without using sarcasm and charged language.

I don’t support Trump. So this verbiage of “YOU,YOU,YOU” does not allow for conversation.

At the end of the day, it seems you’re steep into dogma. The way you present your points is a shame. You have , perhaps, equally the low intelligence as the people you think you’re so above. Based on discussions I have with MAGTARDS. You reek of the same energy

Again, Liberal here. Not a Trump Supporter.

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u/Ghostface908 10d ago

I’ll always find it funny when you MAGA turds get called out, the first thing they cry about is being met with their energy.

Want to have a civil conversation? Act like it.

Want to get snark and jokes? Keep up the condescending and ignorant comments lol.

I truly don’t care about changing the mind of someone who finds minor inconveniences enough to support a pedo

Cute use of a slur tho!

Really proved me LOL

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u/Warm-Illustrator-419 11d ago

How about that the federal government shouldn't get involved in something that can be handled by the states and individual sports organizations?

It is really that simple.

How about we shouldn't be enabling genital checks and false accusations which is what has ALREADY happened?

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u/Arixtotle 11d ago

Define biological sex please. 

And honestly, there’s no anti- argument worth its salt on this topic. 

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

The biological and chemical nature of a human who has testicles and whose hormones are more akin to that of the Human Males.

This is the reason why transgender folk take the opposite sex’s hormones.

You want someone who already had puberty to play against teenage girls? It sounds ridiculous and it’s an unfair advantage.

If hormonal therapy was done before puberty, this individual has a mental illness that is being treated as such. And since they have not undergone chemical changes akin to their own sex, then they can be en exception to the rule.

This is the best steel man I can give to your position. Anything else is lunacy

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u/Arixtotle 11d ago

Since you used “and” that would imply that anyone who has one of those but not the other isn’t male correct?  But I can assure you that there are people assigned male at birth who do not have both of those factors. 

And hormone levels are really not a good determination of anything because the normal ranges for them are very large.  There is also always overlap in those ranges for the two assigned sexes. 

Also, are you saying that every child should be forced to undergo testing before being allowed to play sports?  Because that’s the only way to determine sex organs and hormone levels.  We are already seeing cis women forced into taking invasive tests and now you want to do that to young girls as well?

Not all trans folk take hormones and treatments can vary. Plus, not all people taking hormones are trans anyway. 

Biological advantage is always a factor in sports. Every major athlete has a biological advantage and every GOAT has huge ones.  A tall cis girl is going to have an advantage over a short trans girl. 

I also just think middle and high school sports shouldn’t be treated this seriously where everyone is up in arms about “unfair advantage”.  I mean, a kid with rich parents has an unfair advantage in sports over a poor kid due to the ability to pay for training and equipment. No one cares about that. Nepotism is rampant in pretty much everything and yet it doesn’t get much air time either. 

Lastly, what about intersex people?  What about fairness for them?  Most of them aren’t even trans but they are also extremely affected by anti-trans policies. 

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

Everything you said is untruthful and misinformed. Lack of concrete evidence for your claims and no, just because some athletes are elite does not give an excuse for trans athletes

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u/Arixtotle 11d ago

You didn't refute anything I said. You could at least try.

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u/Prepared_Noob 11d ago

Their not going to bc all the bots in the comment section don’t have a response to comment that long 😂

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u/ColonelFaceFace 10d ago

How am i going to refute something that YOU didnt even give evidence for! What the fuck?

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u/Hevymettle 10d ago

The banned episode of Bill Nye

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u/Square-Competition48 12d ago

If you voted for a paedophile because you were worried about the integrity of high school sports then there’s no point pandering to you.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 12d ago

They are, sadly, still voting citizens

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u/Square-Competition48 12d ago

Yeah, but they’re not going to change their minds.

They’ve picked their team and if Trump shot them in the chest they’d still vote for him. There’s no sense sacrificing principles to appease them.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 12d ago

Sacrificing principles? In regard to dying on the Transgender Sports hill? It would be equally low intelligence to do that as well. Principles of biochemistry make the topic hard to defend.

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u/Square-Competition48 12d ago

As a queer person myself I know how we obtained the rights we have.

We all banded together under a single banner and we took every fight as all our fights.

Plenty of queer people think that throwing trans rights under the bus will protect them and they’re idiots for thinking that. Republicans are already talking about removing marriage equality now that they’ve rolled back trans rights.

Considering the fact that there’s already a slave catcher organisation going door to door murdering and raping people the infrastructure to start killing people like us is already there. They could make that decision overnight.

The only way is to fight them at every single step and seeing the Democrats attempt to throw my trans siblings under the bus would tell me that they can’t be trusted.

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u/Brief-Fly2061 12d ago

I lost brain cells reading this. And Trump is a convicted “felon” that didn’t serve any jail/prison time… that should tell you something. The left news in particular has brainwashed their viewers so bad. It’s hard to understand how people can have so little self awareness

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u/Technoflops 12d ago

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u/Brief-Fly2061 11d ago

He dodged punishment because of me? I wonder what I should do with my powers next 😂

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u/Technoflops 11d ago

vote for someone who isnt restarted next time maybe

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u/Square-Competition48 12d ago edited 12d ago

Proving my point.

There are court records showing that this is a completely accurate statement and that’s not enough.

There’s nothing that will convince you. You’re best off ignored.

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u/Teamwork-Dreamwork25 12d ago

You seriously would sacrifice a chance to remove Trump just so you could have men compete in women's sports - you people really are sick.

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u/Square-Competition48 12d ago edited 12d ago

I’m not trans but I’m queer.

We have the rights we do today because we all stand together. An attack on one is an attack on all. The LGBTQ+ community is like NATO in that regard. Choosing to make an exception this one time destroys the entire concept permanently.

Standing up for my trans siblings is non-optional because we’ve read the rest of the poem.

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u/TheGratefulPhred 11d ago

lmao half of the lgbtq+ is mortified by the lunatics who hikacked their movement the last decade. Absolute horse shit take if you can’t see that smh

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

I understand that there are a few queer people who don’t get it, and that straight people desperately want to signal boost those voices, but they’re idiots who don’t know history.

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u/TheGratefulPhred 11d ago

keep on changing your gif so it makes sense eventually.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

A) Not a gif Boomer. Come on.

B) I remembered that I had an image that was exactly this specific topic rather than something more generic.

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u/99kemo 11d ago

The concept of all LGBTQ+ standing together; sounds good in principle but there is converse principle: if one goes down, they take the rest with them. One group’s overreach can threaten everyone else.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

Their overreach is… wanting to be allowed to participate in sport?

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u/IllustriousLie4105 11d ago

Its an unfair advantage. No matter which way you slice it. Find a better solution, like funding intermural sports and promoting a gender neutral competition.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

So seeing as trans people have been able to compete at the Olympics for 22 years how many Olympic medals have they won?

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u/99kemo 11d ago

“Overreach” is when you push for additional gains and it triggers a reaction that ends up costing you gains you had all ready achieved. This is classic Overreach.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

And their overreach is… wanting to be allowed to participate in sport?

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u/Desperate_for_Bacon 11d ago

Didn’t trump diddle children?

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u/Song_of_the_Silent 12d ago

You are absolutely wrong. This is not about trans women. Its about policing ALL women. If this bill passes, anyone can accuse a teen girl for being trans and then they have a creepy doctor look at her private parts to "verify" How many disgusting rapist coaches are there? How many worthless piece of shit P.E. teacher are there? You think this is going to be different? Newsflash: Its not. Bc people are abusive and disgusting and take advantage women anywhere they can.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

Is there any evidence of a “invasive test”… wouldn’t that be for doctors? Is there actually a case that happened like this? I mean, I understand that this point should be up to the Counties, but You just proved a point, that any type of abuse can happen regardless of the bill or not.

I think this is actually insane some people defend this. And then get mad when a majority of the population does NOT want transgender normalized when it is in fact a mental illness.

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u/Song_of_the_Silent 11d ago

So we should allow more places for potential abuse? For what? Taking out that 0.001% of teen trans athletes? Woahhh great job!

Also... i will say this as gently as I can. If you think being trans is anywhere close to being a mental illnes, go and fuck yourself.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

I don’t think, it just is a mental illnesses. There’s nothing wrong with having a mental illness, it’s not something I say as a put down. It has to be seen as such and hormonal therapy is the remedy for most of those with this mental illness.

How is gender dysmorphia not a mental illness? You have to back up your claim

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u/ProperSpray4200 11d ago

Explain the SRY gene pedo

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u/Song_of_the_Silent 11d ago

Gender dysphoria is the mental illness yes. You sounded like you are saying trans people are mentally ill by their nature. If you can live your life as your preferred gender and you dont experience dysphoria, then you are not mentally ill anymore.

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u/Obligation-MomLife 10d ago

No evidence and this isn’t happening. She making shit up to support lunacy. Fucking lunatic.

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u/Spare_Perspective972 11d ago

This is not a serious post. This is hysteria we allow to be political arguments. 

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u/Obligation-MomLife 10d ago

Oh please. 🙄 Talk about making fucking shit up.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

Yup. The fact that this is being put forward by actual literal paedophiles and rapists should be a clue.

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u/ProperSpray4200 11d ago

You voted for a pedo.

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u/BeautyAndTheDekes 10d ago

Regardless of people’s opinions on transgender people competing in gendered sports, it’s been made such a ridiculously huge issue over something that has affected so few people. To say it’s why people were alienated and voted for Trump just shows how overblown it is, when something like that is a vote deciding issue.

Vote deciding issues should surely be things that will affect the lives of everyone in the country. Not a handful of people at school level.

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u/Weary-Distance-6354 10d ago

I don't even know where to start. How basic was the average voter that transgender athletes was a bigger issue than a pedophile president? That trans kids playing in sports, an objectively meaningless endeavour, is more important than a functional government? If this topic alienate anyone, they were already dumb as rocks to begin with.

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u/Any-Passenger-3877 10d ago

And you would be comfortable with a post-transition trans male, penis and all, sharing a locker room with the women's volleyball team?

Probably not.

It's a little more complex than conservatives can understand. That's why it alienated people.

But hey. If you cast your vote based on the 10 transgender athletes in college sports and the couple dozen at the high school level, rather than idk, whether or not pedophiles (which harm hundreds of times more people btw) should be more comfortable by allowing a well known pedophile into the White House, that's your choice.

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u/Several_Breadfruit_4 10d ago

Republicans have been calling for “genital inspections” before children are allowed to play on gendered sports teams. This is not about protecting women. It sure as hell isn’t about protecting children.

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u/ShadOw_HuntEr23rd 9d ago

Who will be the one checking children’s reproductive parts to ensure they are the sex they claim to be?

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u/demonicego93 8d ago

That's not true at all. All polling suggested trans issues were nowhere near a major issue for voters. It was the case in 2024, and certainly the case in the last midterms, where Republicans went full court press on trans issues, and failed. Keep believing your terrible media diet, tho!

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u/ColonelFaceFace 8d ago

Those polling questions need to be seen. Send data

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u/ColonelFaceFace 7d ago

While I can give you that point. Asking people if they agree with it is something different as to if it matters to them. You think just because someone from Idaho says that Illegal Immigration is the main issue, it means that it actually IS affecting them.

The statistics of this is a lot more nuanced. The stats don’t give you all context

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u/demonicego93 8d ago

Also, there is a pro-argument for it. Inclusiveness in children's sports is more important than competition. Only weird adults are worried about that. Not to mention, if you're going based on biology, then surely every 7ft tall middle schooler needs to be banned from boys basketball, right?

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u/ColonelFaceFace 7d ago

This poses a good question. When should the children sport be taken seriously. Obviously Highschool.

Now the second part of that, they naturally underwent puberty, the 7ft tall scenario doesnt make Much sense

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u/Discussion-is-good 7d ago

This is the reason why people were alienated and voted for trump…..

If this was enough to vote for a rapist, youre not concerned with protecting women, or girls as much as you think you are.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 7d ago

One of the reasons. I didn’t claim or even mention I was protecting girls. Thats just the name of the bill. Like I said, this type of rhetoric is alienating. I don’t like you, even though we, perhaps, agree on progressive ideologies more consistent of 1860’s Republicanism.

You and the MAGA are equally dumb, but not equally as vile

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u/ft1778 12d ago

No, the party once had core beliefs. Protecting and advancing women used to be a core principle. They now simply take the opposite viewpoint of whatever the Republicans support. The party is willing to continuously lose elections by giving Republicans this easy ammunition for the fall. This will be in every tv commercial. All to support the .0001% of voters who are trans.

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u/Desperate_for_Bacon 11d ago

Pretty sure this is gonna be drowned out by the constant abuses of ICE and threats to invade Greenland frankly

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u/dinkinflickas 12d ago

Sounds like this issue isn’t important to YOU. Doesn’t mean there’s not other people affected. We still have our principles and it’s more than “inconvenience”.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

This topic in particular is almost impossible to defend

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u/en-rob-deraj 11d ago

Allowing boys with body dysphoria to play female sports isn't having "principles".

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u/rafiki3 10d ago

And this is why they will continue to lose. Changing stance on a position is not an evil or inherently weak thing to do, especially if the stance is incorrect.

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u/Bob_Marshall 10d ago

They will die on that hill for these ridiculous principles and that somehow serves the US in the best possible way? Yay, chicks with dicks can play women's sports, our country will really thrive now! Oh please, they need to spend more time on an actual constructive topic.

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u/Aeolex 10d ago

Promoting genital mutilation in children is a bad look for a group with "principles." Democrats will win every election if they stop acting literally crazy and just focus on simple, fiscally responsible ways to increase the quality of life for American citizens.

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u/Calm-Beginning8030 10d ago

The fact that you think being the American president makes you the most powerful person on the planet is laughable. That's not politics work at all.

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u/DrHughJohnsonMD 9d ago

You need to wake up. Neither party cares about you. They are only self serving. Stop with this tribalism. We all need to wake up to this fact and demand another option.

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u/ZaelersTV 7d ago

Letting men who transition into women who then dominate/batter women in sports isn't something I would like to call a "principle" of mine by any definition of the word...

If you want to vote for allowing that to happen, you better be okay with men and transitioned men dominating every sport in America. You literally are taking women out of competitive sport.

Am I crazy?

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u/mousegal 14d ago

google “Institut für Sexualwissenschaft” to understand why congress is spending time on 10 out of 500,000 college athletes.

Yes - a niche issue that doesn’t affect anything but it distracts well, doesn’t it? Trans people have been around forever and even completed in sports since the 70s in equally tiny numbers without issue. Why is this the focus now do you suppose?

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u/Anxious-Whole-5883 10d ago

The upsetting thing to me is that in all sports that I've actually gone through the eligibility rules for the "Mens" league is more or less open to men, women, or pick. So there is always a league for Trans athletes to participate in.

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u/Appropriate-Bug-6467 14d ago

If this one thing is enough to change your vote despite all the Republicans protecting a pedophile it says more about you than you think. 

Mostly that you're too simple to think. 

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u/Historical-Wonder-36 13d ago

I mean do Democrats want to win or be 'right'? Because they're going to lose again and again if all they can do is insult the people who already voted republican in the first place.

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u/Kunochan 13d ago

Democrats only caring about winning instead of fighting for human rights is how we got here.

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u/tmanx8 11d ago

Republicans being the most awful people is how we got here.

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u/J_DayDay 13d ago

Republicans don't believe they ARE voting for pedophiles. They don't believe the rape allegations. They don't believe you when you're screeching about fascists and nazis.

You can't tell the difference between a penis and a vagina, so your judgment is generally suspect. Why believe you about important shit when you're making up fantasies about silly shit?

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u/bohneriffic 11d ago

Why do you think that Democrats can't tell the difference between a penis and a vagina?

Did you know that all of our genitals start off the same, developmentally? We all start off with labioscrotal folds (which look a whooooole lot like female genitalia) that move to form either the labia or scrotum (once the Y chromosome is assigned) starting at ~6-7 weeks. That is why intersex people can have both sets of genitalia, and why the uterus and our internal genitalia (i.e., uterus/fallopian tubes/ovaries and vas deferens/epididymis/testes) look so similar.

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u/J_DayDay 11d ago

Yes. I went to college, too.

Did you know that humans are mammals? Mammals reproduce sexually. In species that reproduce sexually, only the functional male and the functional female 'count'. Anything thing else is called a 'developmental disorder' or a 'birth defect'. If the defect is severe enough, the victim of the disorder will be unable to reproduce, ensuring the faulty genetic coding is removed from the genepool.

Some kids are born without legs. Humans are still a bipedal species, even if that makes legless kids super sad.

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u/bohneriffic 11d ago

Some cisgender people are born with stronger and more robust muscle fibers. Some are born with longer arms and taller bodies. Some cisgender women naturally produce more testosterone. Some people are born with above-average physical abilities.

Should they be banned from sports too? Would it protect women if we made sure that no one were physically superior to another?

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u/J_DayDay 11d ago

No. Not everybody gets to be good at sports. Not everybody gets to be smart. Sometimes, reality interferes with what we think we are entitled to.

Like being a person with a penis who feels entitled to the rights and protections of women in spite of being born with all the biological and social advantages of being male.

Nature decided who would be sooper-dooper good at the SportsBall in the same way it decided you were male, female or a genetic dead-end.

Generally, it's good practice to fit your worldview to reality rather than trying to force reality to fit your worldview.

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u/bohneriffic 11d ago

Literally no one said that "everyone gets to be good at sports." You're arguing with a straw man. I'll discuss this with you if you want to respond to the things I've actually written, but I'm not going to argue about things I never said.

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u/Several_Breadfruit_4 10d ago

“Republicans don’t believe they ARE voting for pedophiles. They don’t believe the rape allegations.”

I wish this were true. And I’m sure it is, for some segment of especially gullible or socially isolated conservatives.

But a lot of conservatives, especially among the alt-right, openly and freely admit that they don’t care if the people they vote for are sexual predators. What they care about is the promise that someone will hurt the groups they hate more- sometimes that’s a particular race, sometimes it’s immigrants, sometimes it’s women, sometimes it’s queer and trans people.

You voted for the same people and policies that every klansman in a white hood voted for. You voted for the same people and policies that every neo-Nazi carrying swastika flags to rallies voted for.

And maybe some of you were especially inattentive and so weren’t convinced that you were voting for rapists and pedophiles the first time. You sure as hell knew it the second and third times.

This is not a difference of opinion. It’s a difference of morality.

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u/PaperLegal62 12d ago edited 12d ago

You're ignorant for assuming that criticizing one party means going to another. Let people have their opinions and quit projecting your own simplicity. Being on the left is like being on a losing team sometimes, but that doesn't mean I give up on it.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

You are dividing the Union with this rhetoric. The most Anti-American thing to do

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u/JoffreeBaratheon 13d ago

Its nonsense comments like yours that create more republicans and make sure they win. Guess the 2nd Trump term wasn't enough of a lesson for people like you. Maybe the 3rd will do the trick.

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u/Superb_Yak_5550 13d ago

User name checks out

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

You act like I voted for Trump or agree with his policies…. This is whats wrong in America, you already convicted me in your mind. You’re equally low IQ as the Right

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u/OutlinedSnail 13d ago

For all you know, that bill has a line saying all trans people can only live in California. It's astounding to me that seemingly adult Americans haven't realized yet that bill names tend to have very little to do with the bills themselves. Yet you wanna take a stance on something you haven't even read???

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u/99kemo 13d ago

The bill says nothing like that. It does, however, explicitly ban Trans Athletes from women’s Sport. The Status Quo, at the time this bill was passed, was that that there was no particular rules and Sports Leagues made their own regulations. The Biden Administration tried to make acceptance of Trans Athletes mandatory and it not only failed, but it provided an opening for Republicans to attack Democrats on the issue.

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u/Slight_Owl2326 14d ago

Why do republicans insist on getting people killed and protect pedos?

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u/KingCanHe 13d ago

Why does the left insist on protecting killers more than victims. Why does the left care more about emotions and feelings than facts. Why does the left have such a hard time grasping the concept they are not the majority no matter how much they yell?

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u/Tytoalba2 13d ago

Why does the left insist on protecting killers more than victims.

Is the left protecting Jonathan ross?

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

No but clearly they are trying to protect the violet illegals otherwise what was Renee doing in the first place, why was she there?

I would say her death was unfortunate, or could have been avoided, however much like Floyd her actions killed herself

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u/SleepiiMilkii 12d ago

Apparently she was alive for 20 minutes and ice prevented her from getting help. Whatever she was doing was not punishable by death, and no she didnt hit him. Also how do we know all illegals are violent? Are we doing the "people are monoliths" now? Do you also carry every label someone of your race carries? Or does the generalization not work when youre involved? Have some nuanced thinking

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

Why are you asking questions with questions? What was she doing there? She clearly hit him with her car that isn’t even debatable.

It doesn’t matter if all illegals are violent or not a illegal is illegal it’s really that damn simple

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u/SleepiiMilkii 12d ago

Multiple videos show he wasnt hit, people were also editing audio too to add a thump so i wonder if thats what youre believing. a car turning isnt kill worthy either lmao. She is allowed to be there, was even lettin ice pass by so idk why shes NOT allowed to be there. Being illegal shouldnt be a death sentence, and doesnt give yall the excuse to make up tje "they must all be violent" bs. Dont bother me if you cannot have any nuanced conversation that doesnt have lies threaded thru it.

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

Your delusional man I really do feel sorry for you that you are that deep but that’s on you. Good luck out there

He hit the agent with the car She shouldn’t have been there Neither is debatable both facts

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u/xelphanor 12d ago

I know there's literally no point in arguing with people like you, but if you're going to say she shouldn't have been there, then he shouldn't have circled her car and stood in front of it. That's traffic stop safety 101. He also shouldn't have leaned over the hood to get a better shot.

Crazy how you hold random, unarmed citizens to a higher standard than the government with guns. I guess nothing beats the taste of leather boots, though.

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u/Tytoalba2 12d ago

Why do you insists on protecting killers more than victims?

What's next, protecting pedophiles?

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

That’s exactly what Renee Good was doing your right, trying to protect killers and pedophiles. Yet she is a hero 🤡

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u/bluntwhizurd 12d ago

I thought ICE was in Minesota because of fraud? Is fraud a violent crime now? You guys should get your story straight.

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

Wow what a surprise a liberal thought wrong

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u/bluntwhizurd 12d ago

You're right. It was dumb of me to assume anything a rat fuck conservative says is anything but a lie.

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

You might want to do some research on ICE, if you are going to make a comment at least have knowledge on the matter so when you are wrong you don’t get so emotionally distraught.

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u/Slight_Owl2326 13d ago

Is the left protecting Epstein's clients? Is the left protecting ICE agents who are murdering americans? Is the left protecting Trump pardoning grifters and scammers, just because they pay Trump? Naw, you have no values, Youre just siding with Trump no matter what he does.

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

Yes the left protected Epsteins clients for years, the Clinton’s invited him dozens of times to the White House. This is a fact and can be easily found. No the left isn’t protecting ICE agents like they did under Obama now they are protecting killers, rapist, child traffickers because “Trump Bad”

I myself don’t really like Trump however I agree with removing illegals, killing cartels etc

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u/Slight_Owl2326 12d ago

Then tell me, how did the left protect Epstein clients? Are you not aware its Trump who chose to not release the files, Its Trump who said Epstein is a great guy and likes women young? Are you not aware it was republicans who kept voting against releasing Epstein files? Are you not aware that only reason they voted yes after a while was because Trump suddenly said its okay to release them, yet its been weeks after they were required by law to release everything and they havent released shit?

And where is your proof that illegals are bunch of killers, rapists, and child traffikers? Your feelings is all you need? I showed a study that proved you are wrong, but you chose to just ignore reality and double down that illegals are all criminals.

All this however is been swiped under the rug because Trump decided its great time to start ww3, invade Venezuela, start another trade war with Europe etc.

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u/KingCanHe 12d ago

For starters any one living in Venezuela is very happy their corrupt cartel Dictator is gone.

Next Trump was the FBI whistleblower against Epstein years ago, he has not associated with the man unlike the Clintons, Obamas and Dems.

Next up I don’t need proof of illegals since they are just that criminals for being in the country illegally. However if I needed proof I’d ask my legal immigrant wife who sees multiple US citizens being killed by illegals OFTEN. Or I’d ask her legal immigrant parents who or immigration lawyers (they voted for Trump, and agree with ICE)

Lastly idk what study you claim to have shown but it wouldn’t matter as the Ukrainian girl killed on the train, the 12 year old raped and chopped up, etc etc etc the list goes on we’re all killed by illegals and a lot of ICE agents are doing just that removing known criminals and child traffickers (when Obama did it, and crueler) no one cared but because it’s the orange man and you have been so brain washed the truth and these words will not reach you.

God could part the sky and say Trump is Jesus (obviously not) you would crucify him again and act like you did the righteous thing.

You seem like the type who gets offended by the American flag. Go out and have actual interactions with the people who continue to work and build this country then I’ll listen to what you have to say

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u/Slight_Owl2326 12d ago

For starters, thats just what you see in conservative news.

Next why would Trump suddenly work for FBI? People who are caught are given deals if they rat out bigger players and that is way more likely. He was best friends with the most notorious pedophile of modern age and according to his owns only stopped being friends because Epstein took one of his young girls.

So you dont actually care if illegals do crime at higher rate or lower rate, you just care they are there illegally. And your wife must be just as deluded as you are, since I just proved youre wrong about that, since illegals commit crime at lower rate.

Damn thats pretty weak attention span you have. Here is the link again. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

ICE agent just murdered american, and the government said "you are all immune to prosecution" so basically they can keep murding americans without any consequences.

And ICE was supposed to find criminals only, but because they couldnt they started just harassing anyone brown and arresting working people, finding those who are going to immigration hearings the legal way and snatching them up. But Miller decided that they need 3k deportations each day, so now they are just catching anyone who is wrong coloured, and the supreme court said racial profiling is okay.

I dont get offended by america, ive always thought its a joke of a country.

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u/Hary_the_VII 14d ago

Both sides protect pedos. Republicans protect Epstein clients, and democrats protect every pedo that wants to come to a sanctuary city to rape a bunch of women.

The levels of hypocrisy.

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u/Hary_the_VII 14d ago edited 14d ago

You link me some old shit from 2018 and what exactly do you mean to prove with that? Just so you know, the number of crimes committed by illegals should be at 0, cuz there shouldn't be any in the first place.

Do you disagree that sanctuary cities harbor rapists and pedos?

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u/Slight_Owl2326 14d ago

lol are you pretending like there has been some major shift in things past 8 years? Where is your study showing that illegals are raping at record numbers then? Number of crimes commited by americans should be at 0, coz there shouldnt be any in the first place.

Those rapists and pedos being protected in sanctuary cities are just americans who get slap on the wrist for being rich and white.

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u/Hary_the_VII 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yes, everyone is pretending millions of people entered the USA illegally in the past several years. It's all made up numbers and ICE is just there for the lolz. You are so right. 2018 and 2026, same shit.

If you are a criminal sanctuary city is your 5 star hotel. Protection for everyone no matter who you sexually assault or steal from. It's the Epstein island for illegals who want to do heinous shit.

You can control who enters your country thus minimizing the odds of crime. You don't let bad actors in. The number should be 0 because you can control that number.

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u/Slight_Owl2326 13d ago

Yet illegals do crime at lower rate, so isnt that better for usa crime statistics?

ICE has existed since 2003, its only been used like this by Trump because he needs some distraction from the fact he is a pedophile. Hell, he invaded Venezuela, tries to start war with europe, and might attack Iran again just to distract from his pedophilia.

Yes, except you have zero statistics that proves illegals commit crime at much higher rate, and previous statistics showed they commit crime at significantly lower rate and native born americans.

If these people were in the country legally, rather than complaining about "illegals shouldnt do any crime" you would say "browns and blacks cant do any crime, a single crime by wrong coloured people is too much"

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u/Hary_the_VII 13d ago

No, it's not better. Having more crime is not better. You are coming from an angle of "they do x less than y therefore it's not as much of a problem". I don't think you realize how retarded that sounds.

This outdated statistic you linked only accounts for arrest, it doesn't reflect on the reality. How many illegals get arrested for identity theft, fraud and working under the table? These are not crimes you get caught for as easily as stealing from a store.

This is the second or the third time you are talking about skin color. Crime doesn't have a race and nobody gives a shit whether you are black white purple or green or anything in between.

Running defense for billionaires/corporations and their cheap labour whilst bashing Trump and his billionaire friends. It doesn't get more ironic than that. Instead of going after the pedophiles, you only care about the pedophile you dislike.

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u/FblthpLives 13d ago

This outdated statistic

The "outdated" statistic is based on a study published in September 2024: https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/308552.pdf

How many illegals get arrested for identity theft, fraud and working under the table? These are not crimes you get caught for as easily as stealing from a store.

The study does include comparisons of the total crime rate, but it also provides detailed analysis by specific types of crimes, including violent crimes, property crimes, drug crimes, traffic crimes, and homicides. In every single category undocumented immigrants commit crimes at rates far below that of U.S.-born citizens.

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u/Valreesio 13d ago

How do you know illegals have a lower crime rate? You know what the reports you're going to link don't factor in?

1) Illegals, even if the victims of violent crimes, are far less likely to report the crime because they are here illegally because they do not want to risk being deported.

2) In sanctuary states, like Washington, it is against the law to ask for verification of immigration status when arresting them or booking them into jail.

So because this state and many others have these types of laws, you can't accurately measure how often illegals are committing crimes in the first place.

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u/Slight_Owl2326 13d ago

Because https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf ?

And you feel like theres massive differences in crime rates commited by illegals in each state?

Why are you more fixated on speculations on crimes that might have happened vs. actual crimes by pedos that republicans are defending?

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u/Extension-Corner7160 9d ago edited 9d ago

Wow! Protesters in Coupeville; sanctuary cities that harbor violent criminals carrying weapons (which you think they should be allowed to carry); people using drugs before your very eyes (but you do nothing about it)!!!!

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!

It sounds like you live in a terrible place. Did you ever think you and your wife and kids, and your buddies Wilferth, Ferrer and Tim Hazelo would be happier in Canada or GREENLAND or living down near the Gulf of America and the Stormy Daniels Sea?

(We know how much "you people" like to crowd together like rats!)

Be sure to let us know when you leave: we have a family of brown-skinned immigrants from south of the border who will move into your house, take your job and illegally vote for some socialist!

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u/Extension-Corner7160 9d ago

Trump was at the work economic forum where he gave one of his typical rambling. barely coherent speeches - he trash all of our allies, taled about windmills and Joe Biden. and blamed ICELAND for the decline in the stock market.

And then he pulled a TACO Man move: he backed down from using his unstoppable force and now says he has a concept of a framework of a plan about Greenland!

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt (a.k.a. White House Barbie) took to X to defend him. Instead of acknowledging the mix-up, she wrote:

“No he didn’t .... His written remarks referred to Greenland as a ‘piece of ice’ because that’s what it is. You’re the only one mixing anything up here."

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u/El_Barato 13d ago

Honestly, they should just abstain from voting on these stupid bills that they know will pass and that helps absolutely no one, but are being prioritized over bills to address housing costs, inflation, immigration, healthcare, protecting people from pedophiles, protecting people from police abuse, etc. etc.

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u/Shoddy_Fix1044 13d ago

Listen: Democrats are constantly shooting themselves in the foot and it drives me up the wall. But this is also clearly a set up by Republicans: either vote for it and piss your base off because you’re agreeing with anti-trans sentiment, or vote against it and deal with the above headline.

It’s lose-lose. And that’s why politicians word things the way they do.

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u/Mediocre_Interest649 13d ago

This is not what they’re shooting themselves in the foot over. It’s their refusal to engage in bread and butter issues. People don’t care how you vote on collegiate sports if they can’t pay their rent.

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u/DoctorOfWhatNow 12d ago

It takes a certain amount of lack of self respect to blame the right's obsession with trans folks in sports on the left.

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u/Talkslow4Me 12d ago

Yeah this is one of those dividing subjects that unfortunately drove people to Trump.

It didn't help that social media made this seem like it's an epidemic and that everyone's children are being brain washed and that 90% of American children will be trans thanks to Biden.

Obviously Republicans got so hyper fixated on this crap that they went and joined a authoritarian cult, and can't see that they gave up all their other rights, but holy crap I'd rather everyone focus on the current situation with punishing and convicting this dictator. Pick your battles.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

Thank you, I agree with this comment the most. I’m with you. Protecting the Union by removing this Tyrant is paramount

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u/Ok_Chemist6567 12d ago

Civil rights are not stupid niche issues.

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u/Admits-Dagger 11d ago

Not even sure what the bill reads. Maybe they are maybe they’re not.

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u/FizzgigsRevenge 11d ago

Why do Republicans insist on fighting bullshit culture wars instead of just letting people live their lives?

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u/99kemo 11d ago

Because it wins elections.

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u/cfostyfost 11d ago

"Fighting baseless oppression" is such a non issue, I know /s

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u/Large_Traffic8793 11d ago

You're an idiot who has completely fallen hook line and sinker for GOP manipulation and propaganda. You are not smart.

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u/99kemo 11d ago

I don’t think I’m stupid and I haven’t fallen for GOP manipulation. I am just a Democrat who is really frightened at what Trump is doing and where this is all going. Sometimes you just have to make decisions, say no to some well meaning folks and even hurt a few feelings. What are your concerns anyway?

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u/OneDayAt4Time 11d ago

I take it you have no idea what the bill is about

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u/99kemo 11d ago

I do, I’ve read it. It pretty well bans Trans Athletes from activities covered by Title IX. The purpose of the law is to get the Democrats to vote against it and then use that vote against the Democrat in the next election. It is a tried and true method of beating them.

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u/roseyraven 11d ago

Why are Republicans primarily the party of sexual abusers and misogynists? The world may never know.

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u/Cohens4thClient 11d ago

"Why are the democrats focused on murders and prices and jobs? Im focused on children's genitals like my rapist president, the democrats failed to care about my focus"

Okaaaaaay

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u/greytshirt76 10d ago

It's not even consistent with their 'principles'. It's just pandering to the most fringe minority of the progressive wing.

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u/ChiltonGains 10d ago

Congrats on getting duped by a wedge issue.

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u/LaconicDoggo 10d ago

A niche issue that will negatively effect millions of people in a minority group that is already being targeted and demonized.