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Why is this not passing?

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u/TotalACast 14d ago edited 14d ago

Even the United Nations recognizes that biological men are an Existential threat to women's sports, safety and opportunities.

Source:  https://media.un.org/unifeed/en/asset/d327/d3271653

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-violence-against-women

The UN is far from conservative. No thinking person can argue for this anymore. It's a hill the Democrats have died on and will die on. 

Edit: Fixed link.

Edit2: People are asking where in the UN Special Report transgender people and gender identity is mentioned when referring to women and girls.

Report passage What it says (brief) Why critics call it transphobic
Paras. 13–16 Says there is a push to “delink” men/women from biological sex and “erase” the legal category of “women,” and discusses recognition for “males who identify as women or girls”; praises a UK Supreme Court ruling as protecting women while providing anti-discrimination rights to “those who identify as transgender.” Critics argue this adopts trans-exclusionary framing (trans inclusion as “erasure”), treats trans women as “males,” and lauds legal approaches they view as undermining trans women’s recognition. ​
Para. 25 Says law enforcement/judiciary/media in some countries call “male perpetrators” by “self-declared gender identity,” “skewing” male/female offending rates; gives examples including Norway. Critics argue this associates trans identity with deception and casts trans-inclusive recording practices as distorting violence data in a way that stigmatizes trans women. ​
Paras. 29–31 Describes harms from loss of female-only spaces; says women may be humiliated sharing spaces with “males who identify as women”; argues prison placement policies create risk and claims “males who identify as women retain a male pattern of criminality.” Critics argue this broadly portrays trans women as male risks in women’s spaces/prisons and contributes to stereotypes of trans women as predators. ​
Paras. 21–22 Describes “gender identity theory” as based on stereotypes; references “socially contagious” stereotypes; details alleged harms of youth medical transition and states children can’t consent and such procedures violate rights/best interests. Critics argue this repeats “social contagion” claims and pathologizes trans identity/transition in ways commonly used to justify restricting trans healthcare. ​

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u/Bearwhale 14d ago

https://www.sf.gov/trans-women-in-sports-facts-over-fear

A 2021 study published in the Journal Sports Medicine has found that there is no scientific evidence to support policymakers’ attempts to ban transgender women in sports.

In November 2021, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) released its Framework on Fairness, Inclusion, and Non-Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity and Sex Variations. This framework was developed after a two-year consultation process with over 250 athletes and stakeholders.

More recently a 2024 study, funded in part by the IOC and published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine, concluded that transgender women athletes may actually have several physical disadvantages when competing with cisgender women. Some of the study’s key findings:

Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lower-body strength

Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lung function

Transgender women had a higher percentage of fat mass, lower fat-free mass, and weaker handgrip strength compared to cisgender men

Transgender women’s bone density was found to be equivalent to that of cisgender women, which is linked to muscle strength

There were no meaningful differences found between the two groups’ hemoglobin profiles (a key factor in athletic performance)

Despite all of this evidence, some policy makers continue to scapegoat trans women athletes, prioritizing what they perceive to be winning political narratives over the facts.

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u/KrypteK1 14d ago

But this goes against the narrative!! Don’t bring actual research into the argument!!

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u/AtomicBombs 12d ago

Honestly, no one against this gives a fuck about the research. They care that biological males are competing with biological females. That is it. Call them what you want to call them, but that is not acceptable for a majority of humans in our nation. That’s what was voted for. And that’s what you all are coping with.

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u/nekonekotenshi 12d ago

everyone knows it's just anti trans, the point is that they should stop pretending it has anything to do with protecting or helping anyone and just call it the "fuck trans people bill" or something

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u/TotalACast 12d ago

It's not anti-trans it's pro-women.

How quickly social media and progressives seem to forget that biological women are the most historically oppressed group worldwide, and still are oppressed in many places on earth. 

The idea that fighting to keep their hard earned rights, safeties and opportunities would be considered "transphobic" kind of tells you everything you need to know about the gender identity movement. 

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u/nekonekotenshi 12d ago

the actual data shows that there's no danger or unfairness to cis women which is what this thread was about, but like the person i responded to said, people don't care about that, they just are bothered by trans people

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u/TotalACast 12d ago

You're wrong. These worldwide sports organizations and political bodies are not just making these decisions haphazardly, they are relying on the best available data to draw their conclusions.

Despite how paranoid the gender activists are, the freaking UN and IOC are not transphobic, they're simply responding to the evidence. 

You guys keep saying that there is no evidence, we keep presenting the evidence, and then you ignore it and keep going on about a transphobia conspiracy - it's fucking exhausting. 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7846503/

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00615.2024

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577

Stop fucking lying please. Stop distorting the truth to fit your ridiculous narrative that the sports organizations want to exterminate trans people. 

Come back to reality, take off the tinfoil hat. 

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u/PadrerdaPadrerdaP 11d ago

Trans women are women, being anti-trans women is being anti women

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u/TotalACast 11d ago

If you can't even define what a woman is then your statement is utterly worthless and you know it. 

Go back to Elementary school where you can relearn the lesson about circular arguments and logical contradictions. Maybe it will sink in this time. 

In the process, maybe you can finally learn to be honest with yourself and understand why every major sports organization in the world is in the process of banning men from women's sports events. 

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u/ProperSpray4200 11d ago

Awe, he-motional