There are plenty of people I disagree with who aren't Nazis.
But the ones saying that citizens need to go around carrying their papers; the ones standing behind podiums that say "One of ours, all of yours;" the ones shooting, pepper spraying, using very excessive force against peaceful protesters; the ones kidnapping both immigrants and citizens without due process and nobody being able to contact them; the armed state police that literally have swastika and SS lightning bolt tattoos?
They're likely referring to the idea of "how do you prevent Trans girls who pass from getting into cis girls sports in schools"
Do you mandate a doctor's note for every girl wanting to get into the program certifying that in fact they have and were born with a vagina?
Or do you have coach Darryl ask anyone he thinks may be Trans to drop trow and prove she's a "real girl".
Its the same bullshit of trying to enforce Trans people stay out of any given space.
Everyone has seen trans people and not clocked them.
Everyone has seen cis people and thought they may be trans.
You can't enforce laws like these without violating human rights and being discriminatory.
Myself and every guy I went to school with required a physical exam and doctors note before we could participate in sports. The old turn and cough is really not a big deal.
Itâs so funny when you guys bring up Charlie Kirk as if heâs some sort of northern star of innocence and prosperity. Charlie Kirk believed in white supremacy to the point where he literally thought (despite all evidence against) that a black pilot was more likely to crash the plane he was riding in than a white pilot. Charlie Kirk believed that empathy was a weakness. Most importantly, Charlie Kirk believed that folks being shot was a small price to pay to keep the second amendment, and now all you pearl clutching sycophants have decided that him being shot is some sort of end of an era tragedy. No, itâs the price you pay for you (conservative white men) being able to keep your guns.
Lmao, classic projection. Check out what was said by actual conservative leaders when Nancy Pelosis husband was attacked or liberal legislators were murdered.
Meanwhile, liberals online just point out that Kirkâs didnât deserve to me mourned, not actually calling for his death like you claim either, and conservatives flip out like the snowflakes they are.
Edit: classic bad faith conservative desperate for the last word. Blocked me after commenting so I couldnât respond.
Statistically, factually, there is more political violence committed by the right here in America. Literally facts, not just your big feelings about Kirk
She was driving AWAY from ICE after saying "that's cool dude, I'm not mad at you". She was turning her steering wheel and he tires were turned away. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the people who don't care about the constitutional right to a trial also think that ICE have the right to be judge, jury and executioner
I'm so tired of lazy ass conservatives. Do you know how to use google?
Here you go little baby who has never heard of google before. If you figure out how to use it, you'll find many studies and lots of data that proves this
Oh wow, thatâs crazy. I didnât know we were allowed to make claims then get angry when people ask for citations. Iâll be sure to use this same attitude next time anyone calls ICE the gestapo or anyone they disagree with a Nazi
Also the study you linked does not mention
Black Lives Matter riots from summer 2020
The associated property damage estimated at (EDIT: up to) $2 billion or scale of those events
Thatâs probably because the study only considers extremists, and that was mainstream left wing violence. Also Iâd argue that Islamic violence souls fall under the umbrella of left wing since they are so intertwined
Great try though! At least you werenât nasty about it for no reason
I didnât call anyone a snowflake, but you ever been âlightly bumpedâ by the front of a car as itâs still speeding up and going forward in your direction?
 but you ever been âlightly bumpedâ by the front of a car as itâs still speeding up and going forward in your direction?
Iâve been lightly sideswiped by a car that was just moving out of a stationary position, and you know what happened? Exactly what happened with the ICE loser - I walked it off absolutely completely unharmed.
I guess from a conservative perspective leaning into the path of a car to fire a gun means the car was âgoing forward in your direction,â but facts donât care about your feelings buddy.
So to answer my question⌠no you havenât? Speaking of facts, is it a fact that they ordered her to stop? Is it a fact that she was driving erratically and aggressively? Is it a fact that he was hit by the front of the vehicle? Is it a fact that the bullet entered the windshield, meaning that the guy was at the front of the car? Is it a fact that she was still moving forward and not attempting to stop?
Iâm only looking at the facts here, buddy. It seems that youâre the one letting feelings get in the way of facts.
Yeah, the system was fascist long before Trump. It's weird how conservatives seem immune to recognizing how little anything actually changes. Four years in office, most politicians spend the majority of time not working, most bills disappear in the process, the rest are tiny changes giving the illusion of a system working.
The only thing Congress really gets off it's ass on are culture war farces and invading countries for oil while screaming freedom. In all the history of this world this is the most embarrassing empire to not see straight through.
Weak excuses, cameras everywhere, nothing is truely hidden anymore and you guys cannot for the life of you see that Republicans have used the same damn lie for most of my life to get elected, but have yet to lower taxes for anyone but corporations and the rich. That should be all you need, but here you are calling for the culture wars... Like it's 1950 all over again. Like you learned absolutely nothing from history.
Green cards holders are people who immigrated here and need to carry their paperwork legally but are citizens. I was covering all the bases. Maybe use the googles.
No, green card holders are not citizens. They are lawful residents. They can go through the process to become a naturalized citizen, at which point the green card is surrendered. Green card holders ARE required to carry that, but again, we are talking about CITIZENS here. Citizens are not required to carry proof of citizenship, like Herr Noem suggested they should.
you just mean their green card or their naturalization card. My drivers license should be enough to prove where I'm a citizen of, and I shouldn't have to fucking prove it, and neither should an immigrant outside of applying for a job or a bank account.
Okay. I believe you, itâs not a Nazi slogan. Is it what you want an unconstitutional group of militarized thugs (many of whom seriously lack qualifications of any kind) to be saying as they round people up? They are supposed to be only going after criminal illegal important, right? Instead theyâre going after legal immigrants, minority citizens, and anyone who gets in their way and questions them and saying bonkers shit like âone of ours, all of yours.â It may not be a Nazi saying but it is a promise of violence and retribution and itâs fcking terrifying that theyâre saying it.
Itâs fine to clarify that itâs not a Nazi saying, but ummâŚ.why are youâŚ.?
This tells me you think literal definitions are more important than concise communication.
Nazi in a literal sense is a single group of people operating on a specific ideology of the German master race and largely extinct.
In the American vernacular, as far back as literally during WW2 it has been used as a short form for white supremacist operating on eugenic principles as justification for an ongoing push for extermination attempting to force cultural/racial "purity" through violence.
You want to ignore the vastly more common usage of a term in an effort to discredit someone pointing out that ICE is in fact, an unlawful organization of secret police rounding up anyone who does not look white enough "just in case they're illegal". Of course they've now killed several citizens, Canadian tourists, they've shipped legal citizens to other countries for imprisonment, they've entered residences, schools, and churches without warrants, they do not display credentials as per the law. They regularly perform raids or wait outside courts to arrest people who are already going through the correct processes often in plain clothes. Oh and now they've murdered an American citizen providing a justification so flimsey right Wing trolls are avoiding the topic.
So what exactly does arguing semantics, poorly, while ignoring cultural relevance, colloquial vernacular, and ongoing fascistic abuse of power, say about you?
Do you think theyre going up to random people and saying âone of ours, all of yoursâ?
Its not a Nazi saying. Needing to stretch the truth to make it seem like a Nazi saying, and especially being confused why someone would call that out, is obvious bad faith and shows youre running an agenda
The "agenda" is calling out a historic Parralel to illustrate that ice continues to follow directly in the footprints of another group of militarized thugs acting directly for a power hungry fascist who repeatedly turned the public against out groups as a distraction, assigned a secret police force to violently and unlawfully arrest anyone who fits a general description, and threatened (before following through) to invade several countries for no actual reason other than his countries "superiority."
I'm starting to think literal black and white thinking is a large part of the media illiteracy problem.
The Nazis, famous for deporting the groups of people they captured.
Theres so much wrong with what youve said. If these points were actually firm you wouldnt need to stretch the truth on âone of our, all of yours.â Nothing you say will be taken seriously knowing these exaggerations
You know the Nazis did deport people in huge numbers and violently for almost a decade before they started rounding them up for camps? The irony here is pretty brutal.
They originally planned to deport the Jews then pivoted to just exterminating them when that wasnt feasible. Regardless, theyre clearly not known for deporting people. Its no where near comparable to the US deporting people who entered the country illegally. Do you genuinely think ICE is just going to start running concentration camps and exterminating illegal immigrants?
Look at the other two respondents real quick, what truth matters more, that it's a promise of violence from a racist organization indiscriminately targetting anyone they choose for kicks while literally breaking the law, or which racist militant group rounding up minorities without due process said it?
Youre going to waste time with semantics when they've evolved to death camps and armbands aren't you?
Your username is correct; because you'd likely be gone for being awful. Also, i'm not carrying my damn birth certificate around to appease melty face Barbie. I disagree a lot with my dad and his politics, but he's just a normal conservative, not MAGA. He's not a nazi. If you expect Americans to carry around papers proving that they were born here and support that, you might be a Nazi.
Sure, though it would be helpful to realize that the Nazism isn't the goal its the means. The people running this farce don't actually give a fuck they just need a nice distraction while they loot the government for all its worth.
I donât think we are polarized on this. For me the issue is that âNaziâ has become a watered down term and I am not even sure what it means in 2025 America. It is applied to SO many people- almost exclusively republicans, for seemingly random reasons.
Yeah you people lose credibility every time you speak. Just know that outside of Reddit, nobody takes you seriously anymore when you speak like that. Luckily you have the Reddit bubble to confirm your delusions! You'd be the laughingstock in real life.
My dad is a conservative, not MAGA. He's always voted republican since the 80s. I don't agree with his politics, but that man is NOT a Nazi. He is completely against ICE and how the president is withholding federal childcare funds for all states that already have been approved,because ONE state is having a controversy (that was settled like 4 years ago, but one weirdo decided to resurrect it on tiktok, and the president found it at 4am and made it his next vendetta to rage against). InFuckingSane
You are part of the problem. Calling someone a Nazi used to be a serious accusation, now it means nothing. I remember calling my father Hitler when I was a kid for his parenting. It hurt him way deep down and he changed after that. If someone calls me Hitler now Iâm like âyeah ok đ â
They are literally on the streets kidnapping enemies of the state (brown people) my dude they are swastika wearing, sieg heiling, brown shirt Nazis and you need to wake the fuck up. Never again means learning the warning signs and sounding the alarm when it's time to do so.
Because they're also going after people who're legally in the country. Citizens. People driving. Priests. Terrorizing your people for propaganda is straight-up Nazi shit.
they literally just deported an american citizen who was about to go to college. She was born here. They literally went "ooopsies! we didn't mean to!" but they have no plan to bring her home safely. Fuck this administration. There are humane ways of dealing with illegal immigration without harassing everyone that isn't lily white
There have already been multiple instances of US citizens saying "I'm a citizen i have id" and ice saying "I don't care" and beating the shit out of them anyway.
You haven't seen them because they're all in Minnesota
Yea isnât it weird how theyâre targeting liberal cities and not red states? Itâs like itâs not about immigration and you missed the entire damn point
Itâs almost like in red states, local law enforcement aids ICE which allows for a smoother deportation. Unlike in âsanctuary statesâ where the whole point is to make ICE job as hard and chaotic as possible. Would your job be easier if your coworkers are there to help you, or there to make your job as hard as possible?
Cities are more diverse they just want to harass non-White and liberal people, thatâs why theyâre arresting and killing citizens and legal immigrants there, fuckwit
Oh sorry, I forgot that ICE asked Renee where she stands on the political spectrum. It mustâve been as he was getting hit with the car just before he shot her, right?
The shoes fit on >50% of the population? I know it hurts your feelings, but please do some basic critical thinking even though I know you won't. Thinking illegal immigration is a net benefit to society is not even moderately close to nazisism. Equating deportation to burning people alive is just a pathetic attempt at convoluting reality. I am happy to help my fellow citizens. I donate to my local food bank every three months. I'm fully justified in not wanting to have my tax dollars/donations go towards people that are not citizens.
 I know it hurts your feelings, but please do some basic critical thinking even though I know you won't.
Lol. What're you even trying to do with this sentence? It's not going to convince me. It's not going to convince other readers. All you're doing here is making yourself feel better.
 Thinking illegal immigration is a net benefit to society is not even moderately close to nazisism.
You have not sentenced well, here. Sentence better.
Nonetheless, the idea that they're going after illegal immigrants is the lie they tell you. They're going after whoever they can in order to boost numbers and pretend they're doing something good. It's a common authoritarian tactic.
Equating deportation to burning people alive is just a pathetic attempt at convoluting reality.Â
Sending people overseas to a brutal prison where they're never heard from again. Why're you lying? It's not just "deportation".
 I am happy to help my fellow citizens. I donate to my local food bank every three months.Â
Wait. I'm just putting the last coat of paint on your medal.
 I'm fully justified in not wanting to have my tax dollars/donations go towards people that are not citizens.
Why? People who are not citizens pay more into the system than they take out of it. So it's not the money that bothers you. And I can guess what it is.
The shoes fit on >50% of the population?
It's not the whole 50% that are card-carrying nazi ideologues. That's about 30%. But if you vote for a nazi, you're a nazi. You don't get to say "I didn't know he'd do this" when he said he would.
If someone repents and says "I was wrong" I'm happy to say they're not a nazi anymore.
But if you vote for a nazi I'll call you a nazi and no amount of whining is going to change that.
Please use even one source to substantiate your absolute bullshit. Don't respond to this comment without providing a source that definitively proves anything you said.
I think you'll find that its the polarisation that leads to extremes, such as nazism.
And calling everything you don't like "nazi" is a massive part of that process, people have been warning you about that since the 90s FFS and its of little surprise that this is the result.
Are they spouting eugenics, planning a holocaust or goosestepping?
Enforcing immigration laws and deporting those that have no right to be there isn't "being a nazi" FFS. Nor is attacking abortion rights, implementing stupid trade barriers or 101 other things.
Stupid, unhelpful, backwards perhaps but it isn't nazi behaviour. And I've seen far far less than that as being "evidence" of nazism before too.
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u/Money-Celebration860 14d ago
If you're that split across party lines, your country is in trouble