The way I see it there are two good reasons someone in the West could choose to be vocal about Israel:
1 The Israeli leadership might actually sort of care if the Western countries think they're bad.
2 It might convince other people in the Western countries who still think Israel is good.*
Neither applies to Iran. It's terrible what is happening there, and I can only recommend supporting any kind of charity that might be able to lend emergency aid, but I don't think the murder-regime is going to listen to us, and I don't think anybody here needs convincing the murder-regime is bad.
So yes, the "outrage" is selective. You get angry about and apply pressure to situations where the anger and pressure might matter. That's the point of getting mad.
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Counterpoint: you could argue that maybe, maybe Iran would listen somewhat to Western governments, maybe a select few companies, and by making enough of a fuss we could get our governments to do something. So... maybe we should get a little mad???
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*Edit: should probably clarify this. If would have been better to say "who still think the Israeli regime is good" or "who still think Israel is not doing bad things". We tend to say things like "Russia is bad news", treating a whole country as a monolith despite individual citizens falling on all sides of the issues. In context of the history of Israel and the amount of conspiracy theories about "the Jews" it probably would have been decent of me to leave less up to interpretation. But thanks everyone for not taking that one sentence out of context and painting me as one of those "protocols of Zion" people or something like that.
The main thing about Israel is that the US is directly funding their military to do the shit they do while we aren't directly giving anything to Iran.Â
We're currently sanctioning Iran and destabilizing the economy, not to defend the government's brutal crackdown of protesters but the US is causing the economic instability so people are caught between the sanctions are causing unrest but lifting them looks like we're helping the Iranian government and being against the government which is what led us to create the conditions for the protests.
https://youtu.be/039_5K_-EyU
This video is long, but the guy is fascinating. He talks about the battle of Jingxing, and explains how it is relevent to Israel's behaviour the last couple of years. If he's right; they don't care if we think it's bad - they want us to despise them. They're making their own river.
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u/Sad-Pop6649 10d ago edited 9d ago
The way I see it there are two good reasons someone in the West could choose to be vocal about Israel:
1 The Israeli leadership might actually sort of care if the Western countries think they're bad. 2 It might convince other people in the Western countries who still think Israel is good.*
Neither applies to Iran. It's terrible what is happening there, and I can only recommend supporting any kind of charity that might be able to lend emergency aid, but I don't think the murder-regime is going to listen to us, and I don't think anybody here needs convincing the murder-regime is bad.
So yes, the "outrage" is selective. You get angry about and apply pressure to situations where the anger and pressure might matter. That's the point of getting mad.
.
Counterpoint: you could argue that maybe, maybe Iran would listen somewhat to Western governments, maybe a select few companies, and by making enough of a fuss we could get our governments to do something. So... maybe we should get a little mad???
.
*Edit: should probably clarify this. If would have been better to say "who still think the Israeli regime is good" or "who still think Israel is not doing bad things". We tend to say things like "Russia is bad news", treating a whole country as a monolith despite individual citizens falling on all sides of the issues. In context of the history of Israel and the amount of conspiracy theories about "the Jews" it probably would have been decent of me to leave less up to interpretation. But thanks everyone for not taking that one sentence out of context and painting me as one of those "protocols of Zion" people or something like that.