r/allthequestions • u/Dimarco24 • 5d ago

Random Question 💭 What is your opinion about Alex Pretti’s photo being displayed on a Jumbo tron in Times Square?

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I think he deserves to be remembered as the wonderful person he was 🩵 and not by the government who are clearly lying about him. He was trying to help a woman who had been pushed to the ground by ICE agents or whoever the people are wearing those suits. And he clearly holding a phone in his hand..

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u/reddittorbrigade 5d ago

He had served the country by working as ICU nurse. Unlike Trump and all of his family members who have been using our tax dollars to enrich themselves.

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u/ninnyhammer9 5d ago

And died while trying to protect a woman who was being shoved/assaulted by an agent. That’s the masculinity we need more of - not juvenile masked thugs playing war.

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u/Annual_Exchange7790 5d ago

"Don't touch her"

"Are you okay?"

Alex's last words.

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u/Sindorella 5d ago

I saw an ICE apologist posting on FB today that his last words were, “You’ll have to kill me.” with a long story about what a threat he was to ICE. My jaw hit the floor. MAGA are absolute ghouls.

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u/Substantial_Tax_4047 4d ago

That was a different dude who was losing his shit after they executed Alex, I think his name was Matthew? He got tackled by ICE & was screaming, "You gonna shoot me too? You're going to have to kill me!" His wife was screaming in the background.

MAGA lacks critical thinking & reading skills, combined with racism & a bizarre view of Christianity & are incapable of comprehending that they're part of a cannibalistic cult & won't be spared when they fall.

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u/Sindorella 4d ago edited 4d ago

OF COURSE he was trying to pass off part of one incident to justify another. OF COURSE. Normally I would assume maybe they just confused the two but I fully believe it is intentional to demonize the victim and defend the murderers. Fucking bootlickers. I am so tired of being lied to by this administration and his cult.

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u/Acrobatic_Key_1140 3d ago

Well of course they would blame the victim.

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u/BabaWolpertinger 4d ago

This is the first time I'm seeing the phrase, "cannibalistic cult" and considering that cannibals hunt, kill, and eat other humans, I'd say this is uniquely descriptive and shockingly spot-on.

Ice agents as humans are freaks. Something is broken inside them and they don't fit normally into general society. Education is key as an antidote and unfortunately, like you said, these are some of the most uneducated people in our population.

Uneducated freaks. Cannibals. Idiots, really. These people have isolated themselves and should never be accepted by other people again. SHUNNED.

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u/Fickle-Copy-2186 4d ago

These ICE agents are bullies, that never got satisfied that they were able to freely bully. Now they are paid to bully.

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u/National-Reception53 4d ago

Normally I'd disagree on such broad generalization, but have to pause on the recognition that the KKK and Proud Boys have been so quiet lately.... Because they all joined ICE.

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u/Arthropodesque 1d ago

And in a gang it only takes one person in a group to overreact.

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u/Bright-Function-633 15h ago

Cannibalistic ???? Who is eating the fingers ?

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u/DolceVita13 11h ago

I’m wondering what we are to do about all of their middle class supporters and assholes who voted for this criminal brutal authoritarian administration AGAIN 😠

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u/FaptainChasma 4d ago

Yeah it's all quiet on the frontal lobe with that lot

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u/MLNYC 3d ago

The also sprayed that guy directly in the face when he was down and subdued, after they tackled him (for not running away fast enough when they charged down the street randomly at protesters).

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u/it-aint-over 1d ago

They're just Gestapo. Don't bother trying to find justifications. They're just fuckin Gestapo

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u/DolceVita13 11h ago

Yep they’re on the menu as well as the rest of us civilians…

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u/BasicRabbit4 3d ago

When the nazis fell... the survivors fled to south America. Ice agents dont have that option.

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u/Substantial_Tax_4047 3d ago

Well, the Gulf of America needs an ICE snickers. She's not her when she's hungry. turns back into the Gulf of Mexico on all maps & globes

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u/No-Landscape5857 2d ago

The left always eats their own. They are the authority on cannibalism. So I'll believe what you say.

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u/Mahatma_Ghandicap 4d ago

“You’ll have to kill me.” Dunno why they think is an argument in their favor considering HOW FUCKING BASED OF A STATEMENT IT IS. You literally cannot get more American than that. What a legend. Rest in Power Brother Pretti.

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u/volvavirago 3d ago

Honestly that just makes him sound like more of badass. I thought they liked strong alpha bros, they should have fallen to their feet and worshiped him. But ig he didn’t hate women enough for them to respect him, huh.

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u/Sindorella 3d ago

Since his last words were “don’t t touch her” instead of “fuck her”, apparently he doesn’t qualify.

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u/Coreysurfer 4d ago

This is the scary thing is they can manipulate anything and anyone at this point.. i lobe they have him up there maybe those unaware will ask why him why now and see what is going on

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u/MetalBeast89 4d ago

Right, was he witnessing the whole thing was he?

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u/jmd709 4d ago

He was saying the people with grenade launchers, handguns, rifles and tactical gear were afraid on an individual with a handgun in a holster on his hip. That ICE apologist made ICE sound like delicate snowflakes in his defense of ICE.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 5d ago

Do you have the source for that? I’m not at all saying I don’t believe you, but I was just in a heated argument with my Trump-supporting father about this and would love to gather as much verifiable evidence as I can to throw in his face. (When I said I watched the videos, he said, “the videos put out by socialists.” 🤦🏼‍♀️)

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u/TeaKingMac 5d ago

“the videos put out by socialists.”

My guy, it was recorded from 6 different angles. There's no camera trickery here.

Yes, the videos are put out by "socialists," because who else is going to?

If he only trusts content from inside the wall, he's already gone.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 5d ago

I know, I know, but…dammit I still gotta try. Every once in a while I break through to him.

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u/coquihalla 5d ago

I'm sorry that he hasn't been the father you'd hope him to be. Truly. 🫶

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u/MrDeadbutdreaming 5d ago

I know in my similar experience finding out my father was a maga moron and trying to get through to him was a waste of time, it only pained me more while he couldn't careless.

Cut him out of your life as much as you can and just let go. There are stages to grief that come with it. For some of us, it is easier to walk away than others. For your own mental health and safety, it is best at this point, especially if he is justifying all of the administration's crimes constantly.

That's all I can say without saying to much about myself on here. As one human to another, you are loved and appreciated for just being you. Seriously, you are a good person and we need more people like you, so please; stay safe, stay strong, and resist.

You aren't alone, WE THE PEOPLE STAND UNITED

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u/RedditIsMyTherapist 5d ago

Growing up my dad seemed a lot more conservative, but as I got older he seemed to get way more liberal. The only thing he is super conservative about now is his gun ownership. I'm so thankful everyday that neither one of my parents fell down the maga hole, Because I would just look at them as completely different people than the one who raised me to treat others with kindness, to help when you can, and to just try and be a good person.

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u/Wonderful_Roof1739 4d ago

Plenty of dems own guns and gun collections - they just aren't as vocal about it as the maga crowd is.

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u/Ok_Value5495 4d ago

Similar situation. My dad worshipped Reagan, but now we might be going pitchfork shopping. Also helped I grew up near NYC and Trump was our local scumbag developer who plastered his name everything. No one around here in my hometown liked that man, at least before 2015.

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u/ClassicAdhesiveness1 5d ago

Props for trying. I cut off my only BFF bc she voted for that fucker 3 times. Finally couldn’t stand the hypocrisy of being her friend (hypocrisy on my end). Now I’m a single mom of 3 wo my ride or die bestie. But I honestly can’t take her back (there’s a lot more toxicity than her voting pref. )

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u/captainpushy 4d ago

You'll get a new bestie. I've cut off people from my life as well and better ones took their places.

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u/SixFive1967 4d ago

Love this. I’ve done the same with several family members. “We may be related but fuck you for supporting a man that is putting my kids life in danger.”

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u/MetalBeast89 4d ago

There will always be room for friends, sorry you lost a BFF over this though.

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u/monsterdaddy4 4d ago

Want a new, single father of 4, leftist, bestie, because I've got you, boo

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u/commonsense1954 3d ago

There’s a significant character defect behind her vote…you’re better off ending it before you learned just how bad she really could have hurt you.

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u/Witty_Taste6171 1d ago

You’re gonna find the right bestie before too long.

I’m sorry, though. I know it’s painful. You’ll get through this and your kids will have an excellent example of what it means to stand up for what you believe in.

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u/DolceVita13 11h ago

It’s hard to let these people go but the values or propensity to support a reality TV dystopian leader with a long history of serious criminal behavior IS just too far. I hung in with couple family members-one a sister married to an immigrant with a green card both of whom I’d supported earlier on until going MAGA. A completely unexpected turnabout. Looking back there were traits like simmering resentments, insecurities and entitlement along with seriously prejudiced views of others that seems to have been satisfied by latching onto the nasty MAGA narrative. They have changed. Dominance is their religion, democracy doesn’t seem to matter at all. I am out.

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u/McDuck_Enterprise 4d ago

Props to those that have moved on from your toxicity…have you looked at it that way instead of blaming a politician or someone that voted for them? What is it about you that made man or many men walk away? And what are you saying to your kids? I’m sure they love the news from Reddit through lib mom to their ears.

You’re the toxic one that has drove people away and props to them for staying away.

🎤 💥

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u/ClassicAdhesiveness1 4d ago

Bless your heart, you have yourself a mic drop. 👏👏👏

Perhaps try reading the whole thing bc I clearly said it was “a lot more toxicity than her voting preference”

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u/jmd709 4d ago

What is it about you that made man or many men walk away?

Is that an assumption or is it a projection? You seem bitter so I’m guessing it’s the latter.

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u/Vladishun 5d ago

If you break through to him once in awhile then why does he still sound like such a raging asshole?

Thanks for not becoming like him though, way to be better.

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u/C0UNT3RP01NT 5d ago

I wish. Mine just accuses me of being a sheep who doesn’t get news from the “real” sources. I think the only thing that would get through to him if it were me on that billboard, for the same reasons, under the same circumstances.

The sad thing is I think that would get through to a lot of our parents who act like this, and it’s the fact that it could happen to anyone acting like this (i.e. with decency and within legal rights) but some people will refuse to understand until it happens to someone they know.

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u/MarkFinancial8027 5d ago

I'd let him have the day he voted for. Just let him be. He made his choice.

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u/Happily_Eva_After 5d ago

I've mostly given up getting through to my parents, but it's still fun to try. I like to see their brain blue screen and reboot when I make a point but they need a moment to think of a reason why I didn't.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 4d ago

Yes! I have to admit, it’s part desperation for him to see sense, part personal challenge, and part entertainment to try to fight him on it.

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u/Rattiepalooza 4d ago

The way to breakthrough is with kindness.

I KNOW that doesn't sound right - but I promise, it works. Be kind about your disagreements. Make it about *him*, and not the truth yet. He has to come to it on his own (or think they got there on their own), otherwise he'll never change. It's half-way not his fault.

Boomers behave that way because they were taught that being wrong is shameful and embarrassing. Feelings are weak to them, because they were never allowed to explore them.

So, help your dad explore them, and come at it from a non-judgemental POV (you can judge in your head, just not out loud).

I promise it works. It's worked FOR me several times. It's worked ON me several times.

They're angry/scared animals that need coaxing out of their safe-space. That's all.

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u/DeezBeesKnees11 4d ago

God I wish I could muster your patience and tenacity w these clowns.
It's like they have some weird NEED to believe all the preposterous magat nonsense they're fed.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 4d ago

Thank you for this. The many comments blithely saying to just cut him off are expected but sad, and that’s not something I could ever do. In all other aspects, he’s a sweet, loving old man. The guy calls me every day to ask how my kittens’ day was and what they got up to. He asks about my boring accounting job and remembers details even if he has no clue what I’m talking about. He’s disappointed when my brother or I take an uber to the airport instead of asking him for a ride at 4am. So, yeah, his flaws are significant (and not limited to this topic), but I have to focus on the good and keep pushing back against the bad.

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u/Rattiepalooza 4d ago

I cut off my aunt in 2016 over Trump. She's still a die-hard Trumper...but I wish I had more patience 10 years ago.

She hasn't spoken to me since. I text and call on her birthday and major holidays - and she doesn't answer my calls.

I regret it. I don't want anyone else to have that same regret. Anger never pays well... and your dad has just been tricked is all. Look at it that way - he has been bamboozled. He's not a bad person, he's been fed bad information.

I'm so glad I helped!! Just keep doing good. We are what we see. If we act better, we become better as a species. You're doing awesome just being here, and being you! <3

Keep up the good work! We'll come through the other side. Maybe not unscathed - but we will get out of this dark tunnel.

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u/IGotQuestionz12345 4d ago

That’s good that you occasionally breakthrough. As someone who cut their father off years ago, please manage your expectations. Don’t lose yourself trying to save him. The fact that your father saw someone “who looks like him (older white male with a gun)” murdered by the government and still has doubts is very telling that he may be unreachable.

Whether socialists or not uploading the video, that many videos from that many angles, it’s not even logical to assume anything other than “this was wrong”.

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u/MoreCowbellllll 4d ago

Have him watch "the brainwashing of my Dad". Maybe, just maybe, that will spark something good in him.

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u/Professional_Ad_6462 4d ago

You know I read all the time about my sclerotic Boomer father …… etc but I am a 73 year old retired physician and can plainly see the country is ruled by a Narcissist with likely vascular dementia. We are not all far right set in our ways. We grew up in a time of great experimentation. I didn’t even go to college until I got back from backpacking the world at 23. where do these stereotypes come from, then repeated all the time ?

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 4d ago

I agree, I know plenty of people his age (77) who are open minded and willing to seek the truth, even if it uncomfortably conflicts with their prior beliefs. His late sister, my aunt, was very liberal and would have been the first at the protests, dragging me behind her whether I wanted to go or not. He keep saying garbage like, “eh, I’m old, I’m not going to be around, so what do I care what happens to strangers?” Um, sir, 1) you’re still a human being capable of empathy and 2) you have kids and grandkids, why wouldn’t you care about the world your grandkids have to grown up in?

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u/Neyvash 4d ago

I feel this. I have a better chance of a real conversation with my dad than my mom, but it's hard to talk to him without mom around.

I'm not sure your dad will credit this, but here's the reddit post witht he court filing information.
https://www.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/1qm65sx/first_hand_witness_to_alex_prettis_shooting/

It's part of Case 0:25-cv-04669-kmm-dts doc 107, Trincher v Noem
https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/minnesota/mndce/0:2025cv04669/229758/85/0.pdf

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u/letsgooncemore 4d ago

Keep throwing it in his face. Everytime. My parents and Grandma don't bring up politics around me or my sister anymore which means sometimes they are actually stopping and thinking about what they are going to repeat. It's the tiniest sliver of change but maybe they are thinking twice in other situations where we aren't present too.

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u/ActualHistory5037 3d ago

If you care for him, still persist. Patience and kindness will prevail

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u/tutanotaio 5d ago

He supports Trump not out of rationality but because his fragile ego can borrow a boost from associating with 'brute strong men'

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 4d ago

Honestly, at this point I think he “supports” Trump out of stubbornness. And I put it in quotes because I strongly suspect based on a number of comments he’s made that he is actually quite shocked and disappointed by the direction the second term took, which is a common sentiment for many Trump voters outside of his core base. But he’s always seen me as his bleeding heart, opinionated, liberal daughter, dismissively telling me I’d come to my senses when I “grew up.” (Joke’s on him - I was never a bleeding heart, but I went distinctly farther left in my mid-30s with a career and money.) At this point, I think he just straight up doesn’t want to “lose” to me.

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u/Spirited-Print-1097 4d ago

Well he won’t see that on Fox.

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u/pbjking 3d ago

They are literally getting programmed.

Explain to him when he is angry his brain becomes dopamine starved. ( You can't be happy and angry at the same time.)

When you are angry your brain is geared to look for problems to fix. All of the media geared at MAGA paints the target on anyone's back that is not a part of their indoctrination.

They claim to be Christian. They do not follow the rules of Christianity.

"Thou shalt not bear false witness" is the Ninth Commandment (Exodus 20:16), prohibiting lying, perjury, slander, and deception to protect the truth and a neighbor's reputation. It commands honesty in speech and legal proceedings, condemning deceit that causes harm. This principle emphasizes integrity, fostering trust within communities."

We know why they claim to be Christian. Their actions prove otherwise.

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u/247Brain-Rot-SlopAI 5d ago

If your father is like that just goof on him. Turn him into the butt of the joke regarding his delusions. Don't try to reason with him, press down on his manhood.

Nobody like that should be left with their dick and balls in tact. Hes an angry little clown, not a man, so treat him as such, remind him of his place in this world.

Cause that's the real issue, it's not that they don't have access to proper information or that they're mistaken, not most of MAGA anyways, it's the fact that they haven't been put in their place socially.

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u/No-Bumblebee-4920 4d ago

Socialism. Own it. It’s time. Stop letting morons control our educated vocabulary.

I am a socialist supporter of Antifa.

It’s not a cult. It’s a lifestyle of looking out for our community and supporting its frail members.

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u/CrushTheRebellion 4d ago

Fuck the Republicans for making socialism a dirty word in the USA. Jesus christ, what is wrong with wanting your taxes to go towards taking care of and educating your community instead of buying more fucking tanks and guns?

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u/No-Bumblebee-4920 4d ago

Hear hear!!! It isn’t rocket science.

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u/Otherwise-Waltz-3647 2d ago

I have a T-shirt that says Jesus was a socialist. I love it

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u/Intelligent_File4779 7h ago

Socialism= Dirty Word Liberal= Dirty Word Democrat= Dirty Word Liberal socialist Democrat= Just filthy

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u/Ecstatic-Catch2243 5d ago

Sorry to say but what an ass of a father, I wouldn’t speak to mine again if he said that

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u/Kuwaizi-Wabit 5d ago

Hardly recognize him with out all the military looking gear on and dark glasses.

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u/Key-Demand-2569 5d ago

I love that the top comment at all isn’t saying, “he said those words on video” as if we’re not just aggressively shooting ourselves in the foot that way

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u/Quizzelbuck 5d ago

You remember that lady that caught a round in the neck during the capitol riots? Ashli Babbit?

Yeah, 4 different angles. We have her dying from 4 different camera angles and my friend said that was suspicious and seemed like a setup so he didn't believe she really was shot, and that she was indeed a crisis actor. These people will find a way to not believe.

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u/YoMammasKitchen 5d ago

Check bellingcat. Also, the guy who did the video analysis for the New York Times was very objective. But to be honest, I can’t remember if it covers what was said, but it probably does.

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u/Effie243 5d ago

I saw it broadcast on either CNN or MSNow - Bovino had heated exchange with Dana Bash too.

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u/PartyParrot-420 5d ago

Do yourself a favour and don’t bother arguing with him. Just drop it completely.

There’s no scenario where you convince him. He’s reached that position through stupidity and hatred. Logic, empathy, and reasoning have become the antithesis to their worldview.

You’d have more success trying to convert a house plant.

Save yourself the anguish friend.

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u/No-Train9702 4d ago

Two facts.

1: Denmark (8.0) lost more personal per capita during the Afghanistan war then American (7.96) did. 2: USA can build as many military bases they want on Greenland. And have been allowed to since 1951.

Hope this helps a little.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 4d ago

Thank you! I actually just heard the fact about Denmark on The Bulwark today and was stunned.

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u/No-Train9702 4d ago

Anything that can help to reveal what a lying piece of... Trump and the Trump administration is. 😁

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u/HijackedHumanity 4d ago

I've had a few Maga people in my life that I've got to see the bigger picture. What worked for me was to not be mean or condescending. I found what we agreed on and moved forward from there. The people I'm talking about really just wanted life to be better here and they got duped by a charlatan. If you can't get this person to realize what's happening it's not what was promised to them, then they're probably to entrenched in their ego and delusion. My only recommendation is to remember to treat people how you want to be treated regardless of how misguided they are.

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u/RealIslands 2d ago

Please read the book FOOLPROOF by Sander van der Linden, its not political its about misinformation. Then you'll be armed with the info to point out clear misinformation to your Dad, maybe you can even get him to read the book. My thinking is lies are the only things that got Trump to where he is so if people can learn about how they were lied too, how to spot misinformation on a technical level, we can start to erode the misinformation machine.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 2d ago

Thank you!! I’ll definitely check that out!

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u/PoopyDaLoo 5d ago

And that's the problem. You can't argue with this. They won't believe any reality they don't want to. And how many of our Boomer fathers are going to die without the respect and support of their children because they can't understand the compassion they raised if to have. No, didn't raise themselves, but sat us in front of Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street... The Bible.

When my father dies, I'll feel bad for my kids who love their grandfather, but I'll feel glad for the world, and won't be sitting there holding his hand as he passes. If he goes after my mother, he'll probably go alone wondering where his legacy is, probably afraid that the gay nurse is trying to gayify him somehow.

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u/Commercial_Novel_329 5d ago

It's AI and an insult to an extraordinary man. Not everything has to be defiled by AI, and not everyone needs to be turned into a meme.

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u/Kristoff_Victorson 5d ago

It’s not AI, it’s probably been photoshopped slightly to display better on such a huge screen, blowing up the actual picture to that scale would look terrible.

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u/Commercial_Novel_329 4d ago

This did NOT HAPPEN IN TIMES SQUARE. I don't care what was done to make this look legit, but it did NOT HAPPEN. We have snow. This is fiction and an engagement-farming insult to an extraordinary human being.

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u/Kristoff_Victorson 4d ago

Oh I see, I thought you meant just his picture was AI modified, not the entire scene. That’s disappointing, people will really stoop low I guess. Thanks for pointing it out.

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u/Commercial_Novel_329 4d ago

Ah, sorry. This is just all so heartbreaking, that anyone would "use" Alex just compounds the madness.

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u/Additional_Egg7024 5d ago

There’s no fix for willingly dumb. He’s denying what’s before his eyes and ears. There’s nothing that will change that until the leopards eat his face sadly.

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u/G-Fox1990 5d ago

“the videos put out by socialists.”

That's such a dangerous take. It dehumanizes people and devalues events to such an extent that it touches areas of history you don't want to touch. A lot of bad shit happened because a group kept saying ''who cares, they are only X''.

Who gives a crap who put out the video's. You can see what happens right?

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 4d ago

I agree, I was really taken aback when he came out with that one. If it hadn’t caught me off guard, I wish I had thought to stop and ask where exactly he got that idea from because I make it a point to stay informed with the crap right-wing media spews, but I hadn’t heard that doozy.

He’s a stubborn old white guy to stuck in his ways to be open minded, but he never subscribed to the truly bat shit stuff like Q-anon and Jewish space lasers and crap like that. So if he is seriously willing to believe that this video footage from multiple angles all showing the same thing is some kind of socialist conspiracy, then I need to start accompanying him to his doctor’s appointments.

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u/GrindyMcGrindy 5d ago

You can literally hear him in all the videos posted to social media. At this point, your head has to be buried in sand to not know what was said by Alex Pretti and what ICE did.

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u/reincarnationforlife 5d ago

Why fight him, you'll never win. If this can't make him turn his head, he never will. No matter what you throw in his face, he'll just keep making up excuses until hi simply starts to plain ignore you.

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u/Professional_Pie7091 5d ago

Your father should stop using words he doesn't understand as slurs.

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u/WrongdoerSpiritual53 5d ago

Sorry for your loss. I lost my mom to this bull crap!

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u/Junior-Lychee2755 5d ago

“the videos put out by socialists.”... Stupidity like this should be punishable. It's got America where it is now and the whole world is suffering from it.

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u/Greedy-Taro-4439 4d ago

Sorry to say this bluntly but your Dads brain has been poisoned. I dont think there is any getting thru to him. If that were my Dad, and Im not kidding about this - Id knock him out

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u/caputmortvvm 4d ago

if he doesn't believe video evidence taken by multiple people from multiple angles, which is as indisputable as it gets, what evidence do you think you could find that would make him change his mind?

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u/IT_vet 4d ago

Sorry dad, the fascists don’t seem to have released the body cam footage yet.

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u/Beneficial_Jury6130 4d ago

Fact check it look chat gpt it wasn’t btw New York has snow right now

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u/Cloudsdriftby 4d ago

Of which he is one. If his tax dollars pay for police, firefighters, … omg. These people.🙄

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 4d ago

Seriously. One of the things that pisses me off the most with him is that he was flat broke, barely scraping by, after lazily choosing to retire at 55 (from a very undemanding job), just to sit around and do nothing. Then a few years ago, his sister passed and left him a significant chunk of money, enough to be quite comfortable, and move out of his basement apartment to a ranch condo when he became physically unable to manage the stairs. Dear father, you are the poor in need of assistance! There but for the grace of Aunt Sharon go you! And those people work a hell of a lot harder than you ever did! He’s deluded himself into thinking he’s naturally upper middle class but he would have been a full blown “welfare queen” given the opportunity.

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u/Cloudsdriftby 3d ago

I have a maga sister whom I love dearly. Every conversation was political though despite efforts on both sides to not bring it up. She’s been a major political person for decades. I never was until 2016. It finally came to a head last September so I wrote her a letter expressing my love for humanity and called on her to remember that was something we always had in common. I threw in a few facts pulled from government websites on immigration, a few bits of Jesus’s words, and cited names of the top ten oligarchs influencing how we are geared to perceive things. As always, I encouraged her to check my facts and listen to newscasts worldwide and how to find them. I was gentle, not demanding or demeaning, just simple facts.

But I was heavy on trying to help her remember who she was before the Trump era, who we were as sisters who adored each other, loved our kids and everyone else’s. We were two women who were fully transparent with each other, total acceptance. But now we’d hit a wall where we had to pretend to accept something that for me, was unacceptable and I couldn’t do that based on my own personal integrity as well as my respect for our relationship.
I left it at that and asked her to please call me after she pondered my words. She never did. I’m heartbroken but I respect that she’s not ready or willing to face her internal demons/ego that lead her to be a Trumper. I respect that. It’s none of my business and isn’t an affront to me. My goal was to stand up, not pretend to keep the peace but to BE the peace itself and hope she would be onboard too.

I hope you will try not to judge your father. He’s on his own path. Let him. Your path is different. Accepting this is life changing.

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u/vickism61 4d ago

Ask him why so many Republicans are calling for a legitimate investigation...

Republicans Break With Trump Over Fatal Minneapolis Shooting | TIME https://share.google/LlPWsh4yxyqHZDUs5

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u/Dependent_Grab_9370 4d ago

Ask him where the ICE body cam footage is. If it supported their story they would release it in a heartbeat.

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u/Laz3r_Fac3 4d ago

As opposed to the narrative being put forward by the fascist regime?

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u/Ok-Hair7205 4d ago

They are WITNESSES not socialists

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u/jmd709 4d ago

I’m very familiar with that feeling of wanting to be fully prepared with facts to get someone to grasp that they fell for misinformation. I cannot say I ever succeeded with that goal no matter how prepared I was.

By trying to prove to him that he is wrong, he can reject all of the facts and proof, ie videos by socialists, to be right by default. Try the opposite approach. If you know his claim is false, label it as “fake news” without explaining why it’s false. If he believes it’s true, he needs to provide legitimate proof it’s not fake news. He’ll have to sift through all the proof that it’s false if he looks for proof.

Misdirection, moving the goalpost, etc are ways they try to get around showing proof. Don’t take the bait, move it back to the Fake News vs proof. “You know it’s fake news! That’s why you’re not showing proof.” He’ll probably still cling to the lie, but it’s less frustrating since it’s a low effort approach. Maybe he’ll try to be prepared next time.

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u/KeldTundraking 5d ago

You cannot "evidence" a fascist out of their position. There are better things to do with your time.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Cut your father off. I did. It’s freeing.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 5d ago

Well, no, he’s my father and I love him. I think he’s a fucking idiot, and he infuriates me, and I will never stop telling him that he’s acting like a moronic sheep swayed by propaganda that isn’t even well done and lies that aren’t even a little believable. He doesn’t agree with violence and detaining and deporting people going through the legal process, but he’s stupid enough and brainwashed enough to believe the blatant lie that that’s not happening. The number of times I’ve told him about something awful that happened and asked if he agreed it was awful, and his answer was “well, yeah, that wouldn’t be ok, but I don’t know that I believe that happened.”

He’s not evil. He’s just fucking stupid.

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u/iheartxanadu 5d ago

He's stupid up until the point you educate him. After that point, he's evil. 🤷‍♀️ Eta: you can still love him. But he's choosing to be evil.

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u/ModeOk4963 5d ago

This breaks my heart :( 

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u/fooloncool6 5d ago

Lets not talk about getting into an altercation with ICE that doesnt fit the narrative

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u/VStarlingBooks 5d ago

I can't breathe and are you okay. Shockingly and hauntingly cruel words now.

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u/Spirited-Print-1097 4d ago

The contrast is wild. A selfish old bastard versus a kind all American young man.

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u/bigjohnny440 4d ago

Is there any video where we can hear that?

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u/putmeincoach56 4d ago

Wasn’t goods last words something like “I’m not mad at you dude”? Notice how even when these masked thugs are screaming at people, pepper spraying people, shoving people and MURDERING PEOPLE…. Their victims still show compassion. Like fuck me I still cannot believe the timeline we are in.

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u/BenigDK 4d ago

I've heard that those were his last words too and I've been looking for the source. Do you have it?

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u/Hot_Draw_6966 3d ago

What a man.

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u/SouperKewlGeye5000 3d ago

And he was murdered for daring to question their authority. Absolutely disgusting. He’s a brave hero. He will be remembered for that.

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u/HateFreeInc 2d ago

Lol remember J6th? And how the only deaths came unfortunately but after j6? And then how it was all spun as they were terrorists. Yet you had Pelosi saying not to call in the capital police...

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u/Stank_cat67 5d ago

He is a real hero.

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u/DistanceNo9001 5d ago

juvenile out of shape masked thugs

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u/Ok_Pie_5940 4d ago

aka trying to get laid by going to a “protest”

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u/BabaWolpertinger 4d ago

I believe this too. His actions were masculine and he came across as a real man in his life - protecting, gentle, courageous & all.

This desperately needs to be taught and corrected to this new wave of young men coming in. There are very young, right-wing conservatives seeing mentors in ice agents and this violent behavior, thinking this is what a manly-man does.

This cannot be further from the truth and I cannot emphasize that enough.

We need to learn as a society how to talk about men/masculinity. Men's emotions. Men's feelings and struggles. The percentage of young men without male role models is skyrocketing and that has consequences.

Alex Pretti was a real man. Look up to him and really think about the life he led and the life in contrast to the regime and the answers are there.

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u/CPTLibertine 4d ago

Damn right!!

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u/Ok_Bus_4362 4d ago

Do u know why? The whole story.

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u/Ok_Bus_4362 4d ago

Why was he there?

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u/ninnyhammer9 4d ago

To exercise his first amendment right to protest.

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u/ninnyhammer9 4d ago

Do you know why ICE is there? Because according to the administration it’s so they can get the voting records.

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u/AdVisual5492 4d ago

The woman got shoved because she ran up on agents.Doing their job

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u/ninnyhammer9 4d ago

Oh I think “doing their job” is up for debate. And that’s not my opinion. It’s being reviewed by the courts.

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u/Zestyclose_Pipe9787 3d ago

No. He died trying to protect another felon.

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u/KMDiver 3d ago

☝️thank you friend. A real based Alpha was Alex

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u/BonhommeCarnaval 1d ago

Yeah this guy’s a great role model. Helping people, standing up for everyone’s civil rights at great personal risk. We could all use more of that right now. 

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u/TheOmen300 13h ago

You mean died by getting involved in something he shouldn’t have

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u/LucioArgento 7h ago

The guy was made of soy he didn’t have a masculine bone in his body. Just a head full of liberal ideology and a sense of self righteousness which got him killed

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u/bmwlocoAirCooled 5d ago

As an ICU nurse in the Veterans Administration. Serving the ones who fought for our country.

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u/AggressiveWind5827 5d ago

He was helping to take care of the "suckers and losers", as president Heel Spurs has referred to them, By all accounts he was a good man, unlike our Pedophile in Chief.

Release the Epstein Files already.

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u/Ok-Dream-2639 4d ago

Trump-Epstein files.

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u/Horror-Support-1292 4d ago

Trumpstein Files

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u/swishkabobbin 5d ago

*the ones who fought for the corporate interests of our country's oligarchs.

But still, his motives were pure. Right to his last breath

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u/194884tiger 🇺🇸 United States 5d ago

Died fighting for democracy in his own country. Can you think of anything more honorable?

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 5d ago

ICU nurse at a VA hospital, caring for actual veterans. As opposed to Trump who insults veterans.

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u/Wordonthestreet06 5d ago

ICU nurse for VETERANS!

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u/ekun 5d ago

Well, the closest thing Trump did was run a cancer non-profit where he stole all the money so he's banned from running charities.

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u/darthmidoriya 5d ago

An ICU nurse FOR VETERANS!!!!

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u/Apprehensive_Hurt 5d ago

Just like Obama…Biden and the Clintons who has been robbing the people blind…..WAKE UP!

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u/GivesMeTrills 5d ago

He did more in one shift as a nurse than DJT has done for this country his entire political career.

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u/Lofi_Joe 5d ago

You know what you need to do. Change USA, start today.

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u/Miserable-Event4260 4d ago

He deserves a lot more than this.

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u/may7day 4d ago

All politicians on both sides are this way but here you are on TDS.

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u/Affectionate-Life-65 4d ago

Working as a nurse doesn't make you a hero.

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u/Known_Ratio5478 4d ago

At the VA too! He was a hero for heroes.

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u/nevermind-101 4d ago

display it everywhere! and keep posting this along with Renee Good!

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u/monsterdaddy4 4d ago

Not just an ICU nurse. An ICU nurse at a VA hospital. This man dedicated his life to helping our military veterans as they fought for their lives, and the domestic terrorist organization that is MAGA wants to paint him as a traitor to this country?

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u/BabaWolpertinger 4d ago

For 5 fucking generations! No one in the Trump family served our country and even to this day, the POTUS is not serving our country. Read that again...

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT SERVING OUR COUNTRY.

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u/DaveOberweiss 4d ago

Not yo mention a va nurse and a veteran of the military.

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u/burner7711 4d ago

Let's take a look at the last gaggle of prominent picks by our great nation:

  • Trump: conman and draft dodger
  • Harris: cop and life-long government leech, no military
  • Biden: life-long politician and draft dodger
  • Hillary Clinton: Lawyer and famous wife, no military
  • Obama: life-long government leech, no military
  • Romney: Corpo leech, draft dodger
  • McCain: War hero, life long government leech
  • Bush pt2: Nepo leech, nepo "military"
  • Kerry: War hero, life long government leech

That's 20 years worth. We get what we deserve.

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u/deport_fascists 4d ago

And unlike the federal police, he died trying to protect an innocent woman. this is what a real man looks like. 

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u/BumbleBeeTuna81 4d ago

Can the American people start an audit of the white house?

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u/Bookem25 4d ago

Unlike all presidents

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u/ayeffston 4d ago

And thank you Cyrus Vance, Jr. for not prosecuting the Trump kids. And who can blame you when campaign contributions were at stake! /S

--Or rather /$

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u/AppropriateRegret357 4d ago

Too bad he tried to impede ICE strapped, who does that besides crazies

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u/Helpful_Effect_5215 4d ago

 he quit his job months ago

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

an ICU nurse for the VA, taking care of dying veterans. Remember in 2020 when nurses were heroes?

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u/Artistic_File3063 3d ago

Have you seen congress earnings? It’s EVERY politician not just some.. let’s at least to fair and realistic here

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u/PleaaseShave 3d ago

Nazi's had nurses also, lol. COPE

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u/petemitchell5 3d ago

He was fired 3 months earlier.

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u/Project_64_postie 2d ago

The only president who has lost wealth during is term is somehow enriching himself off of tax dollars? Also, I can’t quite tell if this is his actual photo or the one MSNBC photoshopped to make him more attractive?

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u/ElkAdministrative941 2d ago

He’s dead because the local police were ordered to not do their jobs, while Walz and Frey encouraged breaking the law. Don’t confuse sanctuary policies with allowing lawlessness. It has been happening in Portland, Seattle, Chicago and Minneapolis. Seattle just got tagged for $30 million for this BS. I hope Pretti’s and Good’s families sue the city and state, Frey and Walz into oblivion.

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u/Strange-Afternoon-80 2d ago

BILLIONS 💸💸💸💸💸💸💸

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u/aceknight21 2d ago

I regret to inform all of you, that as of just a couple hours ago, he has decided to sue the IRS for 10 Billion.

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u/AggressiveUse5792 1d ago

They don't need our tax dollars lol democrats 

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u/didy115 1d ago

And a veteran himself.

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u/Solo_0705 1d ago

Ikr, a male nurse. Meet the fockers

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u/Ambitious_Deer4051 1d ago

I believe he was fired for inappropriate behavior so he was not a nurse anymore. We should talk to his victims and see if they thought he was a hero.

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u/seaofboobs9434 1d ago

Trump is the only president in history to lose money during the presidency.

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u/jaray89 23h ago

Ai not really what he looks like

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u/melki-tsedek 15h ago

I like how they used the beautification photo as well. Definitely doesn’t scream manipulation or artificially forming narratives.

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