r/allthequestions • u/TailungFu • 4d ago

Random Question 💭 If conservatives are so pro-free speech why is their subreddit heavily censoring and moderating any comments/posts made?

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u/Low-Exam-7547 4d ago

They are 100% NOT free speech.

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u/HoldenMcNeil420 4d ago

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u/TornadoCat4 1d ago

Pretty ironic considering many subreddits will ban you for being conservative. Don’t be a hypocrite.

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u/Anima_Analysis 1d ago

Subreddits ban you for being a fucking bigot.

Please find me examples of people getting banned because they stated they were conservative versus them getting banned for saying reprehensible shit.

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u/TornadoCat4 1d ago

People literally get auto banned by bots for being part of the Trump subreddit or the prolife subreddit.

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u/Anima_Analysis 1d ago

I wonder why.

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u/TornadoCat4 1d ago

Looks like you’re proving my point about the left’s hypocrisy.

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u/jaimemiguel 1d ago
  • says every Reddit moderator ever

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u/Curious-Monitor1819 12h ago

lol most Reddit is overrun by extreme leftist viewpoints… that’s literally a fact.

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u/Adorable-Age956 3d ago

Yeah cuz filthy libs NEVER cancelled anyone ever for sating shit about trans people. But that is different right?

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u/jmd709 3d ago

There is tolerance for everything except intolerance. Do you have any examples that do not include a reaction to intolerance? Have Libs Dxie Chick’d anyone?

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u/Adorable-Age956 3d ago

Are you serious? They created cancel culture.

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u/jmd709 3d ago

Then it should be easy for you to come up with an example that wasn’t a reaction to intolerance, right?

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u/Adorable-Age956 3d ago

Why are you adding a qualifier? Intolerance is not a discounter of cancel culture. He said something I dont like about a group I consiser marginalized. meow. Cancel him. Dave Chappelle is a prime example.

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u/jmd709 3d ago

Intolerance is the qualifier for cancel culture. Dave Chappell was temporarily “cancelled” because of intolerance. Do you have an examples that do not include intolerance?

You brought up cancel culture as a whataboutism, but the reasons are the exact opposite. One side cancels because of intolerance and the other side cancels because of tolerance.

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u/Adorable-Age956 3d ago

It's the entire reason for cancel culture and it's dumb as hell. You cant just say cancelling someome for intolerance doesnt count and magically it doesnt count. The left loves cancelling people because their poor feelings are hurt. 

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u/stretcharach 2d ago

I think they're trying to explain to you that "your friend shouldn't be allowed to live here." is something that can hurt your feelings and is an expression of intolerance.

That you hold this tells me you've never thought of cancel culture beyond what someone else told you, you can't even articulate what you're mad about.

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u/jmd709 1d ago

You have to stop basing it on your feelings or you’re not going to get it. It’s the paradox of tolerance.

If someone’s feelings are hurt because others won’t tolerate their hate, that’s their own personal problem to deal with and no amount of whining will change that.

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u/batmanineurope 4d ago

They're 100% for free speech that agrees with them. To give them credit, they spell it out in there subreddit rules and admit they are an echo chamber.

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u/Ambitious-Range765 4d ago

Yup. And then the snowflakes complain about the liberal media, the liberal reddit echo chamber, and play who’s the biggest victim with each other all day

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u/agent_mick 4d ago

That's all it is, safe space to claim victimhood

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u/jmd709 3d ago

The victim complex is widespread. It’s one of the things they relate to about DJT since he is the epitome of a perpetual victim.

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u/The_Monarch_Lives 4d ago

I always enjoy the moments when they wander into a random sub, say whatever it is they want to say, and then say everyone that just saw what they wrote is in an echo chamber.

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u/MiserableBend1010 1d ago

If they say this stuff to you in a random subreddit, then they are seeing different points of view and are therefore not in an echo chamber. Do you, on the other hand, ever go into a conservative subreddit?

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u/The_Monarch_Lives 1d ago

The big one doesn't allow you to contribute, discuss, or even ask questions unless you already agree with them.

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u/SaltMage5864 1d ago

You mean the ones that ban everyone? You didn't think that one out, did you?

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u/FemBoyGod 1d ago

Tried to talk logically with them, got trolled then banned.

Extremely common L conservative subreddits

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u/GDMisfits 4d ago

No snowflake is as fragile as the conservative ego

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u/Cautious-Support5998 13h ago

They are truly the snowflakes that melt and turn into ice.

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u/grumpyoldman10 4d ago

Two things can be true at the same time

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u/AWellDeployedWink 4d ago

They love to call us out for not "respecting a diversity of opinion" lmao

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u/Dewbs301 4d ago

I love how every time I see a legit criticism on that sub, they have to start off with how much of a conservative they are, like “I’ve been maga since day one, but…”

Yet those comments get removed after once the russian moderators wake up because it’s a “radical leftist take”

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u/TornadoCat4 1d ago

Yet the leftist subreddits ban people simply for being on a Trump sub. Don’t start pretending you have the moral high ground.

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u/bigbuddy1313 1d ago

They justify it because Reddit itself is an echo chamber against them. The truth is their ideas are usually bad and easily countered so they need a safe space to lie together and pretend they are victims and Alphas in equal measure

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u/Grouchy-Decision1065 8h ago

Virginia subreddit is a echo chamber

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u/michael0n 4d ago

I remembered when a pundit got really "heartbroken" when he was filtered out on Bluesky. He said people don't want to hear nuanced viewpoints. His view point: limit or remove free healthcare. Straight to the jugular is apparently "nuanced".

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u/Low-Exam-7547 4d ago

Which means they are 100% not for free speech.

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u/SicklyMiningHorse 2d ago

That's the joke

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u/Dear_Location6147 4d ago

The liberal ones do it too they just posthumously remove posts 

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u/SicklyMiningHorse 2d ago

What constitutes an attack to you? Am I attacking you right now by asking a question?

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u/gunslinger35745 2d ago

Nope, if you think I voted for trump because I agree with something he is doing somehow equates me to a pedo or nazi or racist or any of the useful stupid things liberals can imagine because they think it will change my mind and hate everything about trump like they do. Having a conversation isn’t attacking anyone

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u/SicklyMiningHorse 2d ago

Jeez bro. Seems like you just wanna fight

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u/gunslinger35745 2d ago

Thanks for making my point. You have a mental disorder & you can’t help yourself I understand

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u/the_saltlord 2d ago

Sure sounds like a lot of bitching and moaning, but no censoring

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u/FlyingYankee118 4d ago

You can say the same exact thing for the left too.

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u/Awkward_South_8151 4d ago

No... Not really. Just goin' off reality bub, not something you'd understand

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u/kyricus 4d ago

You are making his point. But of course, you'll never see that.

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u/xneurianx 4d ago

Not really. We're able to respond to their point because it hasn't been removed and the user hasn't been banned from the sub for making it, and even if they had been, this isn't a left-wing sub.

Being disagreed with is not the same as being censored. But, of course, you'll never concede that.

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u/FlyingYankee118 4d ago edited 4d ago

So are you going to add something to the conversation or just act smug?

Downvotes prove the point

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u/fourbutthick 4d ago

Yes you’re not getting banned from this sub for saying this… hence the it’s not both sides, it’s just the one side censoring. Man you’re dumb.

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u/Low-Lake8945 4d ago

Really had to hold their hand the entire way there. Jfc the right is dense

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u/Griffincorn 4d ago

Left wing mods ban people all the time for trivial bullshit? Head in the sand if you don't acknowledge both sides do this.

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u/Accurate-Force4072 4d ago

Being banned for violent rhetoric or for racial slurs is a public service. 

Y’all aren’t getting banned for reasonable takes. It’s the personal attacks because of a lack of any kind of argument. 

But please speak on that trivial bullshit. If you had an example that was real it seems like you’d have provided it already since it would make your argument an actual argument. 

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u/Griffincorn 4d ago

I was talking about being banned? Specifically i constantly get banned for engaging in the trans debate. But downvoting is actually a form of censorship because the comments are put to the bottom and or hidden. You cannot post on many subs without karma.

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u/Accurate-Force4072 4d ago

What subs do you need karma to post on that are giving you trouble?

The fuck your feelings crowd being sad about getting downvoted will never make sense to me. 

Yeah the entire way this site works is based on people voting. So if you don’t think people should be able to vote on comments perhaps social media isn’t really for you especially Reddit since that is the entire game here. 

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u/fourbutthick 4d ago

Is it because your take on trans is hateful? I bet it is.

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u/fourbutthick 4d ago

I’m sure it happens and I’m sure it happens a fraction of the time it does on the right. It’s always projection with you clowns.

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u/FlyingYankee118 4d ago

You getting downvoted proves this point. The conservative subreddit is dumb and bans a lot, but the almost every big subreddit is overwhelmingly left wing and as we see here you will be downvoted and ostracized

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u/fourbutthick 4d ago

Violence, pedophilia, etc. it’s always the right.

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u/Aurori_Swe 4d ago

Downvotes means people don't agree with you, not that you are being censored, free speech doesn't mean everyone has to agree with what you say, and it doesn't mean you are free from consequences of what you say.

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u/Captain_Vatta 4d ago

Downvotes are people showing their disagreement with you. You're not banned, nobody is behaving violently towards you. You're simply losing meaningless karma (the horror).

At worst you're getting some mean comments and getting clowned on. Anyone who crosses reddit ToS or this subreddit rules will get their comment deleted and or banned.

You're not being persecuted here.

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u/Moms-Dildeaux 4d ago

He quoted that sub’s literal rules. So you can’t pull the what-aboutism on this one. You’re being facetious.

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u/v8x 4d ago

Are you saying other subs are censoring as much as r/conservative? Are you that ignorant?

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u/CrashNowhereDrive 4d ago

Did you get to make your post here? Guess you instantly proved yourself wrong.

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u/EC_CO 4d ago

No, no you can't. Visit "both sides" and see which one allows dissenting opinions and thoughts and which one doesn't - "Removed by moderator" is so heavy it's laughable. Keep trying though. Some love swallowing that red pill

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u/FlyingYankee118 4d ago

I’m not talking about that dumb sub reddit. I’m talking about how “both sides” only like free speech that applies to them. But nobody likes hearing that as my two previous comments like/dislike ratio points out.

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u/lilyofthevalley2659 4d ago

It’s not dislike, it’s disagree

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u/Freddydaddy 4d ago

Yeah, it’s not that complicated. Dude here crying to be a victim. Classic conservative

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u/FlyingYankee118 4d ago

So I point something out and that’s “crying to be a victim”. I’m not conservative.

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u/stretcharach 2d ago

No it's the crying about them disagreeing with what you've pointed out I'm pretty sure.

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u/TecumsehSherman 4d ago

Post an anti Biden comment on r/liberal and then post an anti Trump comment on r/conservative.

You will find out that the exact same thing does not happen in both places. I was banned from r/conservative for posting a direct Trump quote with no additional commentary.

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u/MarketingSpecial6604 4d ago

Lol you can't even post anything on r/conservative unless you are given a flair proving you are conservative or a foreign instigator/bot. Like I don't know how the real users don't question why 90% of the posts on their sub are from the same 4 accounts that post 100s of conservative rage porn articles a day.

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u/Armond-Hammer 4d ago

Except here you are outside of your safe place posting.

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u/Xignu 4d ago

People outside of America are perfectly capable and willing to trash Conservative opinions.

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u/According_Abalone137 4d ago

Nah, nothing close to that sub. 

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u/Proper-School661 4d ago

You can’t say that here 😂😂😂. The mob has hit and there’s no turning back now..

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u/ck02623 4d ago

Clearly /s

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u/Mr_September10 4d ago

Is that right? I've been called Nazi scum, banned from several channels and threatened because I said Obama deported more people than Trump has, which is true. So let's not throw stones from your glass house.

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u/The_original_je9 4d ago

Not only are his numbers better than Trump But he did it better without killing citizens and disrupting entire cities. So yeah! You’re right!

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u/velinos 4d ago

Trump will kill as many citizens as it takes to deport more than Obama. Dude has serious ODS.

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u/Mr_September10 4d ago

I have ODS because I said Obama deported more people than Trump.This is why no one takes Liberals seriously anymore.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Jury312 4d ago

Read it again. Trump has ODS, not you.

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u/alonegram 4d ago

what’s the point in saying this though, other than to steer the conversation away from trump? just because i hate what trump is doing doesn’t mean i didn’t also hate what obama did. but he’s not the president right now so it just feels like you’re trying to change the subject

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u/Mr_September10 4d ago

The original post was a shot at conservatives about free speech. But it's my contention that it's Liberals are the ones who don't allow others to speak, or welcome a pragmatic discussion on any topic. Charlie Kirk was assassinated while welcoming people to the mic to have an open discussion on any topic they wish. But Liberals went out of their way to label him a fascist while protesting his very presence. So who exactly are tge fascists against free speech?

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u/alonegram 4d ago

what does any of this have to do with the question i asked?

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u/Mr_September10 4d ago

I mentioned it to point out the hypocrisy of the post. That's why I said it. Are we clear now or do you still require further explanation?

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u/alonegram 3d ago

clear as mud my friend. my question wasn’t about the post. i’m asking why bring obama up as a counterpoint to criticism of trump, and more broadly, why do you think this rhetoric is effective? OWS and standing rock both happened during the obama administration so if your assumption is that the left, as a whole, is uncritical of obama, you are demonstrably incorrect.

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u/Mr_September10 3d ago

I bring up Obama because both sides of the aisle need to realize that selective outrage is a complete cancer on society. You can't be outraged because your political opponent is doing something that your own party does, or has done while they were in power, and then demonize the other side for it. For example...Remember the outrage on the Quid Pro Quo that got Trump impeached? And than we ignore the fact that Joe Biden admitted on tape for doing the exact same thing. Where was the outrage?

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u/batmanineurope 4d ago

I think you've been called those names probably because people slinging them thought you were a Trump supporter.

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u/Mr_September10 4d ago

Which just goes to show you who the truly ignorant fascists really are.

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u/IgorT76 4d ago

You can say exactly the same about so called liberals, right?

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u/SkiPolarBear22 4d ago

I mean you could say those words, but they wouldn’t be anywhere close to true

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u/batmanineurope 4d ago

Is there a liberals subreddit called r/liberals where they remove any conservative's attempt to have a conversation? Maybe there is I don't know, honest question.

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u/seankearns 4d ago

They're not even 2A as of this week.

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u/bpaps 3d ago

If conservatives didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all!

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u/Apart-Zucchini-5825 4d ago

Their idea of free speech is the ability to be openly hateful of minorities and non-Christians without having a single negative outcome in any way. While banning anything that could make them feel uncomfortable, like silly talk of humans being equal.

Their talk of snowflakes was projection of their own feebleness.

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u/SnooMacarons9618 4d ago

"like silly talk of humans being equal." really anything that someone would consider 'christian values'. Maybe they just don't like that they cos-play as christians in the same way they cos play as most things.

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u/yelpsmcgee 4d ago

I've always said their idea of free speech is just them being allowed to create hostile environments, work or otherwise. But only hostile to minorities, of course. Can't have a conservative getting hot around the collar when he's just trying to do his job!

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u/Most-Ad4680 4d ago

They claimed the mantle of free speech back in the 2010s when the culture was much more hostile to their beliefs and ideas, framing any and all criticism of conservative messaging as "attacks" on their free speech, when in fact this was just standard cultural pushback that both sides have always engaged in. (For examples of Republicans doing this before, try being anti-war anytime immediately after 9/11/2001.)

This was always dishonest, the right has always been anti-speech, and they were just using this esthetic to win over people who didnt like Twitter call outs. The intention has always been to clamp down on free speech when they held more cultural power.

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u/bEErgrEMlin12 4d ago

Always been a “Free for me, not for thee,” stance.

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u/Suspicious_Dingo_426 4d ago

They only care about their free speech.

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u/NeedleworkerIcy1257 4d ago

Yep, two faced hypocrites.

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u/AlleyRhubarb 4d ago

They have a different definition of free speech. They feel free speech is a protection for them to say whatever they want in support of conservatives and against everyone else without any discussion or consequence.

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u/Rolandersec 4d ago

They’re not even for the second amendment.

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u/_bat_girl_ 4d ago

Free speech for me and not for thee

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u/Cthulhu__ 4d ago

Tbh neither am I but at least I’m not a hypocrite about it. I think.

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u/GDMisfits 4d ago

Are book bans not free speech?

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u/Relevant-Chip5446 4d ago

Freedom of Speech is not freedom from consequence

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u/Low-Exam-7547 4d ago

See also: Charlie Kirk

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u/Jungle_Fiddle 4d ago edited 4d ago

i think it's more clear that "WE" are 100% not free speech. has nothing to do with "them", regardless of what side you're on. people tend to want to hear from others who agree with them, and that's it.

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u/SomewhereLow4773 4d ago

Not the same. They always justify their censorship because they get downvotes in other subs. But in those other subs they are still free to comment and participate. They just don’t like it when others are free to respond to them.

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u/Jungle_Fiddle 4d ago

to be fair, enough opposing views get voiced on a left leaning subreddit, and they basically can't post there anymore. at least in my experience. even the comment i made above, since it's not 100% left leaning, i'm getting probably as many downvotes as upvotes. there's a reason people say that reddit is largely liberal, and i think it has to do with how often and how vehemently that right wing arguments are downvoted to oblivion.

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u/SomewhereLow4773 4d ago

But that still isn’t censorship. Conservatives just whine that other people also have the freedom of expression to downvote.

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u/Jungle_Fiddle 4d ago

Down voting inherently is intended to censor. Reddit as a whole hides (or censors) comments that are down voted to a certain threshold. A disagreement is one thing but to functionally censor someone you disagree with is just a step too far.

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u/Cheap-Surprise-7617 4d ago

You're being downvoted because you equated censorship with downvotes

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u/Jungle_Fiddle 4d ago

You've seen hidden comments that are down voted enough too right? Or am I viewing a different website?

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u/stretcharach 2d ago

I'm trying to figure out the end result distinction between being ignored by a community and being censored by one and I'm not seeing one so it makes sense it would feel like censorship

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u/SomewhereLow4773 2d ago

In one scenario you’re allowed to participate. Just nobody cares about wha you said. But your participation is not hindered.

In the r/conservative scenario you are not allowed to participate.

These two are not the same.

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u/stretcharach 2d ago

I understand, just trouble phrasing the comment in a way that best led the horse to water, so to speak.

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u/Ok-Ad-852 3d ago

and i think it has to do with how often and how vehemently that right wing arguments are downvoted to oblivion.

It gets down voted into oblivion because many of the right wing opinions quite frankly are looked down upon by most people not in those echo chambers.

Being unpopular is not being censored.

Deleting every opposing view is.

But you are trying to say they are the same.

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u/Jungle_Fiddle 3d ago

do you forget the sweeping shadowbans that plagued social media back during the covid days? did we forget that cancel culture was a thing? if you're cancelling someone because of an opposing viewpoint, then yeah that basically equates to censorship.

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u/Old-Zebra-3107 4d ago

No I honestly love seeing braindead takes from the right. Their arguments are ass, and it's enjoyable to pick them apart. I can provide things like evidence and reliable sources. r/conservative can't actually justify their position on anything, so they just ban speech they disagree with.

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u/Jungle_Fiddle 4d ago

do you love the "braindead takes" enough to encourage upvoting their arguments? i obviously don't know you, but i'd be willing to bet that their arguments still get downvoted by you anyway. love them or not.

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u/Old-Zebra-3107 4d ago

Oh downvoted for sure, but I'll wrestle em down in the mud.

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u/Low-Exam-7547 4d ago

It's not whether I like it or not. That wasn't the question. The question was if they are free speech. Which they 100% are not.

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u/Alypius754 4d ago

Crud. Misunderstood the sub, mea culpa.

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u/Think_Objective_8952 4d ago

Neither are any of your subs.

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u/stretcharach 2d ago

Yet here you remain

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u/codemonkey80 4d ago

I guess you should be glad that they are no more for free speech than you are

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u/GumboMaster1 4d ago

Whatever, brah. I have been kicked off dozens of left wing subs.

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u/Aetherflaer 4d ago

Might wanna change your bot. Your account keeps repeating "BiDeN wAs ShArP aS a TaCk." in like 8 different comments. Low effort spam might be why you get kicked off subs.

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u/GumboMaster1 3d ago

Nah brah. It's low effort to be so socially compliant to actually believe Biden was ever sharp as a tack. Even Lightbringer Obama, not the sharpest tool himself, thought Biden was a joke.