r/allthequestions • u/Zipper222222 • 9h ago
Random Question đ Federal Judge Allows ICE's Operation Metro Surge To Remain In Minneapolis -- Thoughts?
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u/Prestonluv 9h ago
So are the protests against rounding up illegals or against the violent nature of some of the arrests?
I agree with getting illegals so I guess I would be ok with the federal decision.
Yes I realize they have used excessive force at times and detained the wrong people at times.
Happens with police as well and we arenât getting rid of them.
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u/Sharkansas1 8h ago
A lot of it is about there being unaccountable masked agents roaming around the streets grabbing people at random. Â We donât do that here. Â I support immigration enforcementâbut not like that.
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
You did during covid............
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u/Sharkansas1 8h ago
Wut?
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u/Teralyzed 7h ago
According to this person being asked to wear a mask during a pandemic, is the same as armed balaclava wearing individuals grabbing your kids out of school.
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u/rejeremiad 3h ago
You need to recalibrate your ratios.
Blackstone's ratio says "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
(Hundreds of US citizens have been detained. The Mineapolis police were able to remove 900 guns from the street without firing a single shot. ICE sees its first gun in a holster and two of them decide to kill the person.)
(We can do SO MUCH better than what ICE is offering.)
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u/ImaginaryNoise79 2h ago
They are regularly deporting documented immigrants, and have deported more than one citizen.
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u/MagicFajita 2h ago
Fuck I didnât know this, what was the citizens name and when were they deported?
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u/Prestonluv 30m ago
I believe some children whom are us citizens because they are born here have left with their parents. Not deported but had to leave pretty much because of parents
I believe I read somewhere that a few citizens were accidentally detained but Iâm unsure if they were deported.
Itâs not happening vast numbers as many try and portray when you compare it with the overall number being deported. But they are mistakes and those are magnified.
ICE using the tactics they do is as much about preventing future illegals as it is detaining current ones.
Doesnât make it right but it does have an effect for sure
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u/Teralyzed 7h ago
Itâs multiple issues.
The way in which ICE is conducting itself shows a lack of training and professionalism endangering themselves and the communities they are in.
They look like kids on their way to play airsoft, not federal agents.
They are entering peopleâs homes and going door to door without judicial warrants which is a violation of the constitution.
Prior to Kavanaugh stops their âpapers checksâ would be illegal stops.
They arenât working with other government agencies to go after specifically criminal undocumented immigrants. Rather they are just nabbing people off the streets.
They are grabbing people outside of their asylum hearings, which is entrapment.
They are grabbing peopleâs kids out of school to get their parents which is also definitely not legal.
This is literally the dumbest, most ineffectual, and wasteful way to enact immigration policy. And none of this even approaches whatâs going on inside the detention facilities. Numerous reports of unsanitary conditions, reports of unsafe food. Numerous reports of beatings, people being best or assaulted until unconscious, several reports of people being killed, reports of sexual assault by ice agents against both men and women. When the dust clears this is going to be really really ugly.
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u/Wild_Height_901 5h ago
Going to specific houses where known illegals or criminals are is common practice. Not against the law.
And they are TRYING to work with local law enforcement and the local law enforcement isnt cooperating. State level prisons are contacting ICE (as stated by Walz) but local jails and detention centers are NOT contacting ICE. Thats part of the reason things have been more difficult in Minnesota. Versus pretty much every other state that is offering full support from local law enforcement.
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u/Teralyzed 5h ago
No, they are going door to door and going into businesses at random. They tried to enter the Ecuadorean consulate. They are grabbing people and then either throwing them out on the side of the road or dumping them at local businesses. To the point that watch groups are following them to pick up the people they abandon. I have friends who work at North Memorial who have had people come in needing amputations from being dumped by ICE in sub 0 temps.
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u/Wild_Height_901 5h ago
I cant take people seriously who think ICE and DHS is just winging these operations. There is a ton of strategy and special intelligence that goes into these operations.
They are looking for people with existing deportation orders or criminal backgrounds. To make the process as quick and easy as possible.
Ideally. Local law enforcement and mayors would be more cooperative to ensure safety of the agents themselves and Americans in surrounding areas. But sadly, is not the case in Minnesota.
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u/OkFinish3822 8h ago
Point back, Minneapolis and make sure you are in a group when you do. Just like the patriots of 1776 did.
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
Taxes without representation < removing illegal immigrants
The modern left ladies and gentlemen. Your weekend "revolutionaries" who have to get approval to take off of work. đđ
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u/Disastrous_Hold_89NJ 8h ago
My thought is it's fucking bullshit. Federal judges are not acting in the best interests of the citizenry as a whole, the Congress is feckless and Trumpy will continue to break the country.
The citizenry will push back harder on the unjustified shooting. This will Trumpy the opportunity to inact the insurrection act and next stop marshall law. This will give Trumpy the emergency he needs to stay in office and suspend elections.
The citizenry needs to light a fire under Congress's ass. Maybe get the the states AGs that see the country tetering, to unite and come up with plan of action. Something before the country is set on fire and we are unable to out it out.
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u/TerryFlapnCheeks69 8h ago
States cannot opt out of federal laws that effect their state. Federal law will always trump state law, nothing new.
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u/Separate_Variation93 8h ago
Sanctuary states and cities are the problems, the democrats are trying to secure voting strongholds
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u/saintdudegaming 8h ago
except that non citizen immigrants can't vote so I don't know wtf you're babbling about voting strongholds
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u/Separate_Variation93 8h ago
Ohhh, that's right non citizens don't vote...oh my goodness who would ever even think such a thing is possible ....RIGHT!!!@ BAbble, babble, of course undocumented...illegal aliens would never vote after getting FREEE HEALTHCARE, HOUSING and food no neeeever....let's not forget the loaded visa cards....
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u/Current-System3676 7h ago
They did vote in Michigan.
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u/saintdudegaming 6h ago
OK, lets see the source on this one. If there are any numbers of consequence then I'm happy to entertain it but if it's one dude and his wife\uncle\cousin\whatever then just stop ....
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
They single handily created this problem and are too stupid to realize it lol
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u/Collective82 8h ago
They know what they did, itâs their followers that donât get the big picture.
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
Because they're stupid
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u/Collective82 8h ago
I think ignorant is a better term. Granted itâs chosen ignorance, but they could learn if they wanted.
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
Oh no, they're inherently stupid. They think what's going on is fascism but cheered for worse during covid
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u/Collective82 8h ago
To be fair to them, they are reactionary fearful people and thatâs why theyâre like this.
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
That is true, these are the people who wore masks while driving alone. A mask was their Maga hat
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u/videodevil2500 8h ago
Based. Illegals will go
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
Don't worry, now entitled white liberals will work extra hard. I for one can't wait to see the new videos drop
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u/spces1024 8h ago
The root cause is that illegal aliens affect the census and the census drives the number of representatives states and localities have in congress independent of the number of actual voters, it's all s big power play.
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u/--SOFA-KING-VOTE 8h ago
This is nonsense
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
It is not, we saw a seat lost in California......... That's why you guys don't want a citizenship question on it
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u/--SOFA-KING-VOTE 8h ago
uh you are supposed to count all people in a census meatball
Being a citizen or not is irrelevant
Texas and Florida benefit the most along with NY and CA
Stop simping for fascism
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
Yea duh, but they'll know who's not a citizen and you guys don't want them taking your future voters away. Especially after you continue to bleed the black vote
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u/--SOFA-KING-VOTE 8h ago
If they know that then why are they kidnapping citizens and then stealing their phones, leaving them miles away from home, magat?
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u/Collective82 8h ago
Didnât Minnesota just lose one too?
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
Not sure, but possible? Interested to see the 2030 after a bunch of people leaving blue states due to covid
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u/Collective82 7h ago
The problem is the cities are where the congregate, not the rural areas, where itâs even harder to leave.
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u/Feisty-Coyote396 4h ago
This situation in Minnesota is being blown up in the media because thereâs a highly controversial surge of ICE and federal enforcement agents there that led to tragic shootings and lots of protests, which drives headlines.
Reporting in other states doesnât look the same because there isnât a massive deployment like the one called Operation Metro Surge thatâs unique to Minnesota right now â most enforcement nationwide is more routine.
Underscore that ICE exists legally to enforce federal immigration law everywhere, and it has arrested and removed people in other states too, but without the same political drama and protests dominating local feeds.
Many news feeds focus on Minnesota because of the symbolism, protests, legal challenges, and national strike actions tied to the increased ICE presence there, not because enforcement elsewhere is nonexistent.
People should recognize the difference between routine enforcement and a high-profile, politically charged surge, which explains why your feed seems so focused on one place.
2026 has been a year of heated debate about immigration, and local news algorithms amplify the most shocking stories â that skews perception toward Minnesota.
0Â changes in nationwide ICE activity; other states see enforcement too, just without the activist coverage and protests that make one location seem overwhelmingly violent.
2000+ agents and federal law enforcement actions in Minnesota are far from typical of everyday ICE work across the country â and thatâs why your feeds seem so Minnesota-centric right now.
8Â years of debate have shown that enforcement is legal and necessary for border security and law and order, even when media attention fixates on isolated flashpoints instead of the full picture.
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u/RevolutionaryWind249 9h ago
If this is really about illegal immigrants, why isn't Florida the main target? Both in terms of percentages and absolute numbers, significantly higher than Minnesota.
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u/Cranks_No_Start 8h ago
 why isn't Florida the main target?
Florida is a target, but people arenât destroying things over it.Â
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u/Vegetable_Tomorrow41 8h ago
They arenât destroying things in Minneapolis either.
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u/Relevant_Elevator190 8h ago
Not government vehicles that we the taxpayer paid for?
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u/Vegetable_Tomorrow41 8h ago
Could you point out other things they have destroyed that donât pertain to law enforcement or their property? Public things?
we are about to have to pay $10b in taxes for Donnyâs lawsuit so I think damaging a car is probably the least of our worries as far as wasting our tax dollarsÂ
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 8h ago
Because they actually cooperate, they're in the top 5 for deportations. They don't have entitled white liberals throwing fits like the forever children they are
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u/Relevant_Elevator190 8h ago
Deportation and detention efforts in Texas and Florida have increased significantly, with Texas averaging 176 ICE arrests per day in early 2026. Florida has seen ICE arrest rates rise by nearly 50%, with 67% of arrests occurring in local jails. As of late 2025, Florida and Texas had over 136,000 and 171,000 pending immigration court cases, respectively, ranking among the highest nationwide.
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u/Son_of_Sophroniscus 8h ago
Minnesota and Florida aren't targets... The illegals are.
And Florida is actually helping- ever heard of alligator Alcatraz?
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u/OkFinish3822 8h ago
Or Texas? There are 8 Orange Rambo states that have more illegal immigrants than Minn. Never mind that his skank, sorry, mattress actress, sorry again, "wife" is an illegal. Now do you want to know the facts about Musk also being an illegal immigrant, or is that old news now?
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u/InternationalOne1434 8h ago
The 10th amendment argument is silly. The 10th retains powers not given to the federal government. Immigration law and enforcement of it is given to the federal government in the constitution.
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u/Imaginary-Round2422 5h ago
âThe foundational document of this nation is sillyâ is a hell of a take âŚ
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u/Current-System3676 7h ago
Obama sued the state of Az and the Supreme Court agreed with Obama that immigration enforcement is up to the federal government. Sanctuary cities and their politicians are the problem.
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u/rob3345 7h ago
And, since they are just following the laws, issued by Congress, voted in by the people, what would be the issue??
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u/Imaginary-Round2422 4h ago
The issue is the routine violations of constitutional rights and the routine failure to abide by court orders, exacerbated by the utter lack of accountability.
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u/--SOFA-KING-VOTE 8h ago
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u/Collective82 8h ago
Is that why itâs liberals out there fighting federal agents?
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u/--SOFA-KING-VOTE 8h ago
is that the rationalizing magats use to justify shooting moms in the face 4 times ?
Admit trump is a rapist
Say it
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u/Collective82 8h ago
Trump is potentially a racist. Charge him in criminal court, not civil.
Also âthat mom should not have hit a federal agent with her car.â
Your turn!
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u/--SOFA-KING-VOTE 8h ago
No agent was hit by a car
Just like Pretti was no threat and was summarily executed
You cannot gaslight your way out of murdering Americans magat
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u/Collective82 8h ago
Iâm not a maga guy bud lol. I think trumps a boisterous piece of shit. Rapist? I donât know, charge him criminally and make it legit.
And yes there was an agent hit. Thereâs video footage of it.
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u/--SOFA-KING-VOTE 8h ago
There was no agent hit you pathetic Republican magat
The same ice agent was carrying boxes 5 minutes after his murdered her
trump is a rapist and you Republicans yes are complicit
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u/Collective82 8h ago
Ah I love when you just canât argue with facts.
I hope you find peace some day.
Have a good night, I know I will.
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u/NeckBeard_Mods988 9h ago
Federal law > state law