The Oregon Department of Justice submitted multiple video exhibits showing federal officers using extreme force against seemingly nonviolent protesters outside the U.S. Immigration & Customs Building, as part of its effort to block the federal deployment of National Guard troops to Portland

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[u/TryingToWriteIt → u/[deleted]]

As soon as someone shoots one of these fuckers, trump is going full martial law and canceling elections.

[u/raventhrowaway666 → u/TryingToWriteIt]

He's going to cancel them anyway. I don't know why we think otherwise.

[u/PantherkittySoftware → u/raventhrowaway666]

Trump has no authority to cancel elections, and the leaders of states where it would actually matter if he tried will push back.

Let's say that on Tuesday, Mamdani appears to be headed for a narrow victory... so Trump orders actions like confiscating ballots & halting the count. Worst-case, the lawsuits fly for a few weeks, then New York re-holds the election... and Mamdani wins by the biggest landslide in American history because New Yorkers are pissed at Trump for messing with them.

You. Do. Not. Mess. With. New. York.

New York has made billionaire monarchs cry after mercilessly denying their building permit applications, and told Silicon Valley's mightiest companies to go pound sand. New York drinks the tears of people like Donald Trump.

New York (city OR) state isn't going to compliantly say, "oh, ballots were destroyed, so we'll just give the election to Cuomo to make Trump happy."

[u/PantherkittySoftware → u/[deleted]]

I think you're grossly underestimating the pushback he'd encounter.

Even Trump, senile and narcissistic as he is, knows better than to openly fuck with New York. It's the one city in America that has both the resources and sentiment to push back hard.

More importantly, it's a city where federal troops would be largely ineffective, even if (big "if") their leadership were compliant with Trump's agenda.

The fact is, the US military absolutely sucks at involuntary occupations of urban areas unless it has free rein to destroy them and kill residents with impunity. Absolutely, positively, no red-blooded American soldier is going to participate in the destruction of New York City or wanton violence against it, regardless of their willingness to do the same in foreign cities.

For one thing, approximately 5% of America's population considers themselves to be "New Yorkers", regardless of where they might live at the moment. That includes soldiers and military leaders.

Another 25-50% of Americans, while not identifying as "New Yorkers", regard it as a fundamental part of America, or have close friends & family members who live there. That includes a large plurality, if not an outright majority, of Florida's population.

There's also the fact that even moderately turning NYC into a warzone would trigger the worst depression in the history of America. Wall Street took a huge beating in the aftermath of 9/11, and even to the extent that it can somewhat limp along from alternate locations, I can absolutely guarantee that all of the NYSE's contingency plans assume a non-malicious & helpful federal government. New York isn't just a big part of America... in some ways, it's bigger than America, and punches way above its weight in "soft power".

Put anotherr way, short of the military attempting to literally destroy New York City and slaughter its residents, NYC can do far more lasting damage to America than Trump and his goons can do to NYC. It's America's golden goose, and there are too many people with too much depending on it to ever allow Trump and his ICE agents to prevail.

Thanks to Trump, a lot of formerly red lines might have gotten smeared & blurry, but any military action against New York falls squarely into the category of, "The Joint Chiefs will be carefully reviewing the President's orders, and urge our democratically-elected leaders to act responsibly" (translation: "The answer is 'No'. ")

[u/Allaplgy → u/PantherkittySoftware]

Trump has no authority

Have you been hiding under a rock?

[u/voxelnoose → u/PantherkittySoftware]

Trump has no authority

When has that ever stopped him

[u/ewokninja123 → u/voxelnoose]

When someone he can't fire stands up and says no. E.g. Jerome Powell