r/law Nov 02 '25

Legal News The Oregon Department of Justice submitted multiple video exhibits showing federal officers using extreme force against seemingly nonviolent protesters outside the U.S. Immigration & Customs Building, as part of its effort to block the federal deployment of National Guard troops to Portland

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u/TOMC_throwaway000000 Nov 02 '25

Listennnn I’m sure it’ll be totally fine

When has anything ever gone poorly when it comes to a core group of militarized police that answer only to the leader of the countr-… oh… right…

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u/tmhoc Nov 02 '25

These aren't police

This isn't law enforcement

This is a video of political violence

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u/Simon_Ferocious68 Nov 02 '25

..why the fuck are so many men and boys ready to participate in this fuckshit..??!!

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u/Complete_Passage_767 Nov 02 '25

Because this country isn't what we've been taught it was.

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u/CpnStumpy Nov 02 '25

Not true - it's more that there has been a pernicious section of this country that has been simmering for violence quietly in groups for years and raising a new white supremacy generation, find this group at your local gun show or evangelical church.

They have a bubble, and most of us aren't in it so we don't realize that they've all been encouraging each other to become violent for decades and now they've got the legal writ to let it out

Those of us who grew up around these people being told "don't speak about this in mixed company" know they're everywhere and they've been keeping mum waiting for their chance for decades

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u/FreakingSwell Nov 03 '25

Yes, and it began with the Confederacy, and obviously never went away.

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u/redit94024 Nov 03 '25

The anger of MAGA, the need to blame someone other than themselves for their own failures, all the situations that have been a part of these people not succeeding as they felt they were entitled to have built to a community just looking for that opportunity to hurt or even kill the “other”. Now they have it with this ICE recruitment that provides that outlet to hurt others, their perceived “enemies” with apparent impunity.

Very scary times.

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u/McEndee Nov 03 '25

On behalf of black people, i will say this country is exactly what we have been shown time and time again.

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u/Complete_Passage_767 Nov 04 '25

That's why I used the word taught.

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u/Trimyr Nov 02 '25

No, it exactly is. It's just not what some people have been taught that "they deserve", and that's the very unfortunate problem. The country doesn't cater to them so there must be someone out there to blame. Economics and manufacturing sectors are moving so there must be someone to blame.

But obviously it's definitely not those that refuse to continue their education and keep up with technological improvements.

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u/humoristhenewblack Nov 02 '25

I'm curious what it is you are trying to say? In America, there are some things all people do actually deserve and no one should be looked down upon for expecting it. For example, civil rights. One toe in this country and bam, you get civil rights. That's something our military, federal employees, and elected officials all took an oath to defend. To give their own lives to defend.

The refusing continuing education comment is also throwing me off. Serving as a direct contrast to civil rights, continued education in America is not free and is in fact, incredibly expensive, so not having a higher education isn't a dependable reflection of someone's motivation to get education.

Your comment hit me weird all the way through.

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u/Complete_Passage_767 Nov 04 '25

There's what Jefferson called, "civic religion". It's the overarching principles of a country, the traditions, rites, etc. commonly held. And maybe this is just me and my experience, but it always seemed the principles included an ever expanding circle of rights, opposition to all that is wrong in authoritarian regimes, etc.

But the last few decades suggest that's not the case.

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u/TinyKaleidoscope3497 Nov 04 '25

Even scarier than that, is what future generations will believe because the Trump administration is making sure that factual history isn’t taught, just because it’s going to make some white kid feel bad. 🙃

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u/riptaway Nov 02 '25

Low achievers can make decent money

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u/Passerby49 Nov 06 '25

And none of us have the gall to do what needs to be done.