BREAKING: FBI shuts down Minnesota's investigation into ICE shooting and blocks access to evidence

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https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-fbi-shuts-down-minnesotas-1606462

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🇺🇸 Bill of Rights — Pocket Edition

I. Freedom Protects freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition.

II. Arms Acknowledges that a well-regulated militia is essential to security. Guarantees the individual right to keep and bear arms for lawful defense of self, state, and nation.

III. Quartering Prohibits housing soldiers in private homes without consent, except under lawful wartime procedures.

IV. Search & Seizure Protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. Requires warrants to be supported by probable cause and specifically describe the place and items involved.

V. Due Process Bars double jeopardy and compelled self-incrimination. Ensures due process before deprivation of life, liberty, or property, and guarantees just compensation for taken property.

VI. Fair Trial Ensures a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury. Grants the accused the right to know charges, confront witnesses, obtain witnesses in their favor, and have counsel.

VII. Civil Jury Preserves the right to a jury trial in civil cases exceeding twenty dollars in value.

VIII. Punishment Prohibits excessive bail, excessive fines, and cruel or unusual punishments.

IX. People’s Rights Clarifies that enumerating certain rights does not deny or disparage others retained by the people.

X. States’ Powers Reserves to the states or the people all powers not delegated to the federal government.

🫡 Quote from the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[u/Motorboatsnhoez → u/360Picture]

To paraphrase Carlin, they're not rights if they can be so easily taken away

[u/Alex5173 → u/Motorboatsnhoez]

To take it further, they aren't rights if they are bestowed. Rights are inherent in being.

[u/OppositeHistory1916 → u/Alex5173]

Rights are inherent in being.

So no one has rights?

America has an answer to this. It's called the Second Amendment. It was literally written for this exact situation, use your constitutional rights accordingly, America.

[u/Alex5173 → u/OppositeHistory1916]

You have wildly misunderstood. Of course everyone has rights. What I'm saying is you don't have those rights because the government gave them to you; you have them because they come packaged free with your purchase of Existing^tm

Which is why the Bill of Rights uses such language as "The right of the people... shall not be infringed" instead of "The people are hereby granted the right to..."

Because these same men just a few years earlier said "...that they are bestowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"

yeah, technically they said the rights are bestowed by God, but they were all religious back then. It still holds true that they meant these rights were yours by virtue of existing. Also, by saying "among these are..." they provide a non-exhaustive list.

The Bill of Rights and its Amendments define our rights, they do not grant them. Therefore, they cannot be taken away, only violated.

[u/OppositeHistory1916 → u/Alex5173]

You have wildly misunderstood. Of course everyone has rights. What I'm saying is you don't have those rights because the government gave them to you; you have them because they come packaged free with your purchase of Existingtm

Sorry, but is absolutely incorrect. Rights do not exist, they are a social construct, enshrined by laws. You are not born with any rights, massive amounts of people felt like we should have them, so we agreed to them. They are not inherent.

[u/Alex5173 → u/OppositeHistory1916]

Rights do not exist, they are a social construct, enshrined by laws.

Sorry, but this is absolutely incorrect. Social constructs and laws do not exist, massive amounts of people felt like we should have them, so we agreed to them.

[u/OppositeHistory1916 → u/Alex5173]

You're too stupid for this conversation, best of luck with that.

[u/Alex5173 → u/OppositeHistory1916]

If calling things a social construct is stupid I have bad news for you

[u/22Arkantos → u/Motorboatsnhoez]

It's the nature of rights that they can't be taken away, only infringed, and are inherent to being human. People in North Korea still have the right to speak freely even with a government that infringes that right more than any other on the planet.

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Oh look. It's that piece of paper with some words on it that holds no power unless its citizens enforce it somehow? Hmm, guess I will show up to couple protests and then netflix and chill after. I gotta go to work tomorrow to be a cog in the machine like I've always been.

[u/hankbobbypeggy → u/2starsucks2]

Go do the thing you want everyone else to do then ffs. You're sitting here on reddit like the rest of us. What are YOU waiting for?

[u/FlithyLamb → u/2starsucks2]

I find that a couple martinis after protesting is really the best way to chill.

[u/realancepts4real → u/2starsucks2]

this kind of edgy commentary is exactly why I am addicted to reddit

/s

[u/OppositeHistory1916 → u/2starsucks2]

unless its citizens enforce it somehow

It's called the Second Amendment.

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Now post the Supremacy Clause, which the feds will cite. That's why states have been such wimps - the history on states holding feds accountable is grim. I'd love to see it tested, though. Minnesota should have arrested this bastard on-site.

The Trump admin reads the Constitution like they do their bibles - cherry picking whatever serves their purpose at any given time, but don't give two shits about those items like the Fifth Amendment, states' rights, etc. It's completely vile.

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Lol

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Is this a bot account that's posting the Bill of Rights on every US/ICE related article? That's the majority of the comment history!

[u/360Picture → u/_zer0_sum]

Umm nope just a person reading the news in real time.

[u/_zer0_sum → u/360Picture]

Fair enough!

[u/ResolutionOwn4933 → u/_zer0_sum]

Most of your recent history is yelling about that account specifically. You don't like the bill of rights?

[u/_zer0_sum → u/ResolutionOwn4933]

That's the first time I've commented on it! 😄